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[2670.00 --> 2671.30] The graphics is where it's missing.
[2672.98 --> 2673.54] Dang.
[2674.10 --> 2674.92] What's in there?
[2675.04 --> 2676.66] It's just an Intel graphics card.
[2676.66 --> 2688.84] Intel UHD graphics 630, which going back over to the Air is an Intel UHD graphics 617.
[2688.84 --> 2694.26] I'm not sure the spec difference between those two besides maybe, you know, 13 numbers.
[2698.78 --> 2702.42] It's barely 13 numbers better than the MacBook Air.
[2702.42 --> 2706.34] Well, 617 and 630 is 13, so that's the difference there.
[2706.74 --> 2718.08] I would just say that if you couldn't do it on an Air with that graphics, I can't imagine that the graphics card in the Mac Mini is so much better than that Air's graphics card.
[2718.16 --> 2728.84] So if we're talking about video on a MacBook Air, it's probably a similar scenario where you can, but what you want to do is your daily driver is the thing.
[2728.84 --> 2732.86] So you're talking about in the case of replacing the need for a MacBook Pro.
[2732.96 --> 2735.88] I think it's still not there just based on that.
[2736.64 --> 2757.24] Because when you go to, say, a fully specced out MacBook Pro, which I'm assuming you may or may not desire, is a Radeon Pro 560X with or 10 560 10, if you want to stay on brand with Apple, with 4 gigs of GDD R5 memory.
[2757.24 --> 2758.46] So a big difference.
[2758.60 --> 2762.74] Like that thing alone is going to handle all of your video performance.
[2762.92 --> 2765.46] It's going to push your different displays.
[2765.98 --> 2769.48] It's going to allow you to edit in 4K and not drop frames.
[2769.48 --> 2777.74] And you still have the option to push your RAM and push your SSD and have four Thunderbolt 3 ports, not three or two.
[2778.06 --> 2779.52] The I.O. is really interesting.
[2779.66 --> 2789.66] I think this is a, the Mac Mini, in my opinion, is probably a good fit in server-like installations or people who don't do graphics that need server-like scenarios.
[2789.66 --> 2795.70] Something that's pushing, say, a NAS or, you know, RAIDs or something like that.
[2795.80 --> 2799.36] It's your networked, you know, Mac OS server locally.
[2799.94 --> 2801.86] It's maybe commanding your Mini.
[2801.86 --> 2808.66] Let's see, you have a scenario where you have, I don't know if Mac OS server is still a thing that you don't talk about it much.
[2808.70 --> 2809.84] I think it is still there.
[2810.14 --> 2820.80] But basically, like, you know, you have the idea of Active Directory in Windows where you have all the people on one machine and you manage the people in a local network via one machine.
[2820.90 --> 2822.24] That's where this is going to thrive.
[2822.24 --> 2826.24] And there's a lot of people who use it like that because you have a lot of Mac installs.
[2827.26 --> 2827.34] Yeah.
[2827.42 --> 2833.94] And as IT, you tend to have to go from machine to machine to machine, where in this case, you want to have a networked Mac server.
[2834.76 --> 2839.44] And we've had to deal with a Mac Mini that wouldn't keep up.
[2839.44 --> 2843.06] And you wouldn't want to buy a Mac Pro because maybe it's just too costly.
[2843.30 --> 2851.06] So something in the middle there, I would imagine, where the Mac Mini fits in price point-wise and capability-wise is where you want to go.
[2852.24 --> 2855.90] So the answer from Adam is no, because of video.
[2856.32 --> 2856.46] Yeah.
[2856.78 --> 2857.82] If you don't need video.
[2858.12 --> 2858.46] Dang.
[2858.62 --> 2860.84] Like, maybe you're there.
[2861.10 --> 2867.80] If you're just audio, no video, maybe even lightweight Photoshop, occasional graphics manipulation.
[2868.42 --> 2879.68] If you're doing anything where you're doing things in the cloud, because you're using it, that's essentially like Citrix back in the day, client server, server-based computing stuff.
[2879.68 --> 2887.76] And if you're doing stuff in the cloud, then the Mac Mini would be a good option, you know, graphics-wise, for example.
[2887.76 --> 2892.74] So you're saying if I give up video, the Mac Mini would be perfect?
[2893.70 --> 2895.66] It would be adequate.
[2896.18 --> 2897.10] I can't say perfect.
[2897.10 --> 2903.86] Well, here's the other issue with the Mac Mini, which is that now you have to go out and find a display, right?
[2903.96 --> 2905.94] Which with the Mac Pro, you're getting a display built in.
[2906.00 --> 2909.38] With the iMac or iMac Pro, you have an Apple display built right in.
[2909.66 --> 2921.22] There's no such thing as an Apple display right now, which we're all kind of hoping that they do that soon, especially with the, not the rumored Mac Pro, but the promised Mac Pro in 2019.
[2921.22 --> 2931.52] I think they'll go back to, I would expect them to go back to building their own displays versus just saying use LG, which by the way, I have a third-party LG display.
[2932.14 --> 2936.12] And it does not work very well with Mojave in terms of plugging and unplugging it.
[2936.20 --> 2937.66] And it just sometimes doesn't get picked up.
[2938.12 --> 2941.32] And I'm like, if this was just an Apple display, it would work 100% of the time.
[2941.32 --> 2950.54] Which makes me also like a world where I have a desktop and a laptop and not a multipurpose laptop that I plug in and unplug because it doesn't always work.
[2950.66 --> 2952.12] And it's a pain in the butt to do that.
[2952.48 --> 2953.98] So I do like that world.
[2954.10 --> 2960.04] I think I could probably live there as a developer because I'm not doing video processing.
[2960.04 --> 2969.58] But obviously with ChangeLog and our media content that we're producing, I would not want to put myself into a corner of not being able to do video editing.
[2969.80 --> 2971.06] And so I probably wouldn't do it either.
[2971.18 --> 2972.40] But it's a very attractive option.
[2972.62 --> 2977.70] A Mac Mini at the desk and a MacBook Air in your backpack.
[2977.96 --> 2979.02] I think that's an awesome combo.
[2979.96 --> 2983.40] I can say, though, that you don't have to shoot 4K.
[2983.40 --> 2988.88] And when I say video, I usually caveat that with most video folks are like us.
[2988.94 --> 2989.86] They're pushing the edge.
[2990.76 --> 2991.04] Right.
[2991.14 --> 2994.00] So I'm only the caveat there is 4K.
[2994.24 --> 3006.54] Like if you're not shooting, editing in even 4K or 4K raw or some of these, you know, higher end, much more sizable resolutions and you're shooting HD.
[3007.28 --> 3007.76] Yeah.
[3008.24 --> 3010.50] Then you probably would get away with it.
[3010.54 --> 3011.16] Just no problem.
[3011.16 --> 3023.68] Well, the thing is, I'm usually shooting in 4K, then creating 720p proxies, editing those, then exporting back to 4K.
[3023.92 --> 3025.20] Yeah, that's a pain in the butt.
[3027.70 --> 3028.46] It is.
[3028.64 --> 3029.88] I mean, it really is.
[3029.94 --> 3032.58] Because now you get to manage proxies and it is painful.
[3033.30 --> 3037.58] You know, because you still, you have the, you know, here's why it's painful.
[3037.92 --> 3039.02] One, it's time consuming.
[3039.02 --> 3042.54] It's a workflow thing that's usually a Tim thing.
[3042.76 --> 3045.94] And if you invite somebody else into your workflow, now they got to adopt that as well.
[3046.00 --> 3047.26] So that's just one piece.
[3047.82 --> 3050.24] The other piece is the original size of the 4K.
[3050.24 --> 3057.60] And then the smaller size, which isn't much, but still enough to add to the 4K size of a proxy file.
[3057.60 --> 3059.98] And then file management.
[3060.58 --> 3062.74] It just gets to be error prone.
[3064.58 --> 3065.40] So much nicer.
[3065.48 --> 3069.52] You could just pull up the 4K footage and just literally push the space bar and go.
[3069.94 --> 3070.42] Yeah.
[3070.42 --> 3086.14] I'm curious though, seven minutes ago, Corbin in our Apple Nerds chat room, he does something interesting around when it comes to developer isms with the Mac mini, where he's pushing a CI environment that's powered by GitLab.
[3086.14 --> 3093.38] That is, he's using VirtualBox to run VMs for Windows and Linux.
[3093.38 --> 3097.20] And then he's also got GitLab on the Mac OS.
[3097.30 --> 3103.18] He's got three OSs he's doing continuous integration for, which I'm not really sure of his use cases.
[3103.32 --> 3107.58] We do plan to do potentially a backstage on this.
[3107.58 --> 3122.78] So he hasn't said it yet, but I want to earmark that because that is one interesting thing where this machine can be used by, say, developers in an environment where they need to do CI or anything that's debugging on several platforms.
[3123.24 --> 3131.34] And potentially offer that to the other folks in their network to utilize for those needs.
[3131.34 --> 3138.56] Worth noting that Apple also gave a shout out to people who are running Mac minis in servers.
[3138.72 --> 3142.00] So they're very well aware that this is a thing that people are doing.
[3142.10 --> 3145.34] What was the name of that company that 8,000 Mac minis racked?
[3146.22 --> 3147.62] Yeah, Mac Stadium is the name.
[3148.06 --> 3149.22] Mac Stadium, that was right.
[3149.22 --> 3150.62] Mac Stadium, that was interesting.