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[2533.82 --> 2534.12] Oh, cool.
[2534.12 --> 2538.08] So you can publish blogs on pretty much everything, which is good.
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[2548.42 --> 2549.24] Back to the show.
[2549.68 --> 2550.02] Boom.
[2550.24 --> 2553.32] The beginning of the end of passwords.
[2553.86 --> 2554.20] Yes.
[2554.20 --> 2564.36] So there could be a future soon where you very, very seldom enter a password, which would be dope because passwords suck.
[2565.40 --> 2572.54] So what happened is there's this new security standard called web often, like authentication.
[2572.80 --> 2573.62] Often, yeah, the N on the end.
[2573.62 --> 2574.42] That's so stupid.
[2574.44 --> 2574.98] It's weird.
[2575.16 --> 2575.80] Thanks, guys.
[2576.30 --> 2577.92] I thought it was a typo at first.
[2578.28 --> 2579.96] And then I was like, oh, it appears more than once.
[2580.16 --> 2580.30] Oh.
[2580.30 --> 2583.54] You didn't account for people saying this out loud?
[2583.68 --> 2583.98] Okay.
[2584.20 --> 2584.46] Whoa.
[2585.16 --> 2591.74] Web often has one near final approval from the World Wide Web Consortium, which is the governing body for these kinds of standards.
[2592.30 --> 2595.04] So what this is is on your phone.
[2595.12 --> 2598.90] You're unlocking your phone with Face ID or with your fingerprint all the time, right?
[2599.72 --> 2605.48] But you don't do that when you go to facebook.com or basically any other website.
[2605.58 --> 2606.12] All recipes.
[2606.34 --> 2608.90] For them, you enter in just a password.
[2608.90 --> 2616.74] Setting up a biometric password on all different websites would take a long time.
[2616.74 --> 2625.52] Not only would they have to implement that technology, but then you'd have to do all those different finger taps on every different finger for every website, and that'd be really annoying.
[2625.52 --> 2635.64] So what this is, is it's an API, an application programming interface that all the different websites will hook into.
[2635.64 --> 2635.80] And then you'd have to do.
[2635.80 --> 2646.62] And then you only have to set up your biometric passwords once, and then the whole web can rely on them, which is going to be B-A-A-F.
[2646.62 --> 2646.64] Nice.
[2646.64 --> 2650.74] So for hackers, all you really need to do is break one system.
[2651.04 --> 2651.22] Yes.
[2651.22 --> 2652.88] And then you get all of them.
[2652.98 --> 2653.30] Yes.
[2654.38 --> 2654.74] Sick.
[2655.24 --> 2657.64] I might be wrong, but this is how I think it works.
[2658.10 --> 2663.74] Because I had to do some digging beyond just what was found on the forum.
[2664.10 --> 2667.42] The forum post, by the way, was posted by Matthew Valencia.
[2667.84 --> 2668.56] Thank you very much.
[2668.84 --> 2669.36] Thank you, Matt.
[2670.18 --> 2671.30] You sound Italian.
[2672.70 --> 2673.08] What?
[2673.60 --> 2673.96] Valencia.
[2673.96 --> 2675.40] That's Spanish sounding to me.
[2675.40 --> 2677.84] I'm really bad at that kind of stuff.
[2678.08 --> 2680.06] So you're probably totally right.
[2680.16 --> 2681.08] It could be really bad.
[2681.16 --> 2681.72] It could be either.
[2683.22 --> 2683.62] Yeah.
[2683.72 --> 2684.06] I don't know.
[2684.18 --> 2685.48] It sounds like it could be cool.
[2685.60 --> 2687.48] It sounds like it could be a single point of failure.
[2687.72 --> 2692.44] It just depends on, I guess, how they exactly implement it.
[2692.92 --> 2699.40] You can require something like a YubiKey, which I think is actually pretty cool.
[2699.40 --> 2708.60] So if they add power to the user in terms of like, oh, I'm okay with fairly weak authentication.
[2708.92 --> 2710.24] And you want to go that route.
[2710.38 --> 2711.14] That's fine.
[2711.20 --> 2713.30] I don't care if someone doesn't really care about their accounts.
[2713.46 --> 2714.14] That's okay.
[2714.36 --> 2717.10] If you have one password for everything and you think that's okay.
[2717.36 --> 2718.26] That's fine.
[2718.26 --> 2724.00] As long as it's in your control to amplify that and have more security.
[2724.22 --> 2730.42] If you want to go to like having two factors still, like a YubiKey and something else, that could be pretty cool.
[2730.42 --> 2734.28] Well, you kind of already have a single point of failure.
[2734.44 --> 2743.92] Like if someone were to get my phone, which they would unlock with a fingerprint, or if they were to get my laptop and unlock with a password, then I have all those autocompletes set up.
[2744.08 --> 2745.58] So they kind of have everything anyway.
[2745.66 --> 2750.54] See, but then that's an in-your-control thing because mine doesn't.
[2750.54 --> 2755.12] If someone got my phone, they have access to not very much.
[2755.46 --> 2757.46] They would have access to my email, which is pretty bad.
[2757.46 --> 2763.78] And I guess they would have access to like my password Trove and nothing autocompletes.
[2764.10 --> 2767.80] But they would have my email, so they could probably reset most things.
[2768.92 --> 2770.38] But like, yeah, I don't know.
[2770.42 --> 2780.34] But even if you're the kind of person who like doesn't care about things, wouldn't those, like how are they going to get a hold of your biometric information?
[2780.44 --> 2781.32] Isn't that just hashed?
[2781.68 --> 2782.26] Isn't it totally?
[2784.08 --> 2785.02] Yeah, but okay.
[2785.02 --> 2789.04] So there's different types of hacking.
[2789.56 --> 2796.08] So you could find a vulnerability in the system that no longer requires you to use those.
[2796.44 --> 2796.74] Sure.
[2796.92 --> 2797.26] Yeah, okay.
[2797.36 --> 2797.56] Right?
[2797.74 --> 2798.62] There's a myriad of things.
[2798.84 --> 2799.08] Yeah.
[2799.44 --> 2802.02] And someone will probably find one of those.
[2802.10 --> 2802.36] Okay.
[2802.80 --> 2808.42] Whether it ends up on zero day and gets solved or whether it gets sold or what happens with it, who knows.
[2808.42 --> 2808.66] Sure.
[2809.04 --> 2821.62] And having one central system, if it's open source, and you have a whole bunch of huge companies working on making sure that it stays secure, could be really awesome and could like really lock things down.
[2821.62 --> 2831.38] One thing that's awesome about this is if you're not even that savvy or serious about your privacy, you're more protected with this because you can't be phished with this.
[2831.38 --> 2834.96] Because your password is like a secret that you know.
[2835.48 --> 2841.84] And just because no one else knows it doesn't mean that they can't get it just by asking you what it is, which is what phishing is.
[2841.84 --> 2847.26] You know, you get it.
[2847.34 --> 2857.62] My wife actually got an SMS recently that was like, your telco has given you a refund or your ISP has given you a refund of $114.61.
[2858.14 --> 2858.84] Click through.
[2859.06 --> 2864.12] You click through and it's got tiles for each of the common banks in Canada.
[2864.82 --> 2865.56] Totally branded.
[2865.70 --> 2866.62] Looks totally professional.
[2866.96 --> 2867.58] Looks awesome.