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[1944.24 --> 1945.82] This is just kind of a funny part.
[1946.24 --> 1949.82] During the reception, the bride and the groom would go off to consummate the marriage and
[1949.82 --> 1951.62] they would come back and then everyone would have dinner.
[1951.86 --> 1952.96] It's not really how that works anymore.
[1953.60 --> 1955.26] I mean, you could probably pull it off.
[1955.26 --> 1958.10] Like, technically, a lot of people go off to do a photo shoot.
[1958.20 --> 1959.60] That photo shoot could be very naked.
[1959.60 --> 1960.14] It could.
[1960.26 --> 1960.60] It could.
[1960.70 --> 1961.40] It definitely could.
[1961.56 --> 1961.68] Yep.
[1961.80 --> 1963.22] It's just not generally done anymore.
[1963.22 --> 1963.44] Yeah.
[1963.56 --> 1963.76] Yeah.
[1963.94 --> 1964.08] Yeah.
[1964.08 --> 1969.02] But at that time, the best man doesn't hang out with the other people.
[1969.68 --> 1973.56] The best man goes with the bride and groom, but not into the room.
[1973.82 --> 1975.52] He stands guard outside the door.
[1975.52 --> 1977.12] You don't have to do that, do you?
[1977.12 --> 1977.74] Because theoretically, no.
[1977.92 --> 1978.54] No, no, no, no.
[1978.54 --> 1979.06] That's good.
[1979.42 --> 1981.58] The whole thing is more there as like a joke.
[1981.68 --> 1982.28] Yes, it would be.
[1983.08 --> 1989.20] But yeah, you stand guard outside the door because until they've completed the consummation,
[1989.72 --> 1991.08] the marriage isn't final.
[1991.58 --> 1995.72] So someone might try to come and steal the bride before that happens.
[1995.72 --> 1998.82] So you have to stand outside the door and guard them.
[2000.98 --> 2002.76] There's a lot more to it.
[2002.84 --> 2007.20] If you want to go down a really weird path, a very funny path of history, you can look
[2007.20 --> 2007.48] it up.
[2008.32 --> 2010.56] But I'm bringing a sword kind of as a joke.
[2010.72 --> 2012.32] It's not like a super serious thing.
[2013.90 --> 2014.30] Yeah.
[2014.68 --> 2015.28] Got it.
[2015.44 --> 2016.30] Thank you for that.
[2016.38 --> 2019.12] That was both disturbing and enlightening.
[2019.26 --> 2020.18] I appreciate it.
[2020.96 --> 2021.42] All right.
[2021.90 --> 2023.66] So let's do a tech topic then.
[2023.66 --> 2026.36] CJ09 Bira posted this on the forum.
[2027.20 --> 2035.56] The original article is from overclock3d.net, but it looks like Intel may have delayed 10
[2035.56 --> 2038.08] nanometer ice lake until what?
[2038.20 --> 2038.60] 2020.
[2038.96 --> 2039.34] Wow.
[2039.52 --> 2039.82] Dang.
[2039.90 --> 2041.24] I think it's 2020 for server.
[2042.06 --> 2045.00] And I thought it was 2019 for consumer.
[2045.96 --> 2047.20] Something along those lines here.
[2047.26 --> 2047.38] Yeah.
[2047.38 --> 2048.86] We can have a look at this here.
[2049.32 --> 2051.04] Someone in the chat said swords are heavy, Luke.
[2051.04 --> 2051.48] Yeah.
[2051.54 --> 2056.18] It's also, if it's on the ground, it goes up to here on me.
[2056.68 --> 2057.06] Really?
[2057.40 --> 2058.66] It's, it's Anduril.
[2059.40 --> 2061.06] It's the reforged sword.
[2061.70 --> 2063.42] It's Aragorn's blade from Lord of the Rings.
[2063.54 --> 2064.08] Of course it is.
[2064.40 --> 2064.96] Heck yeah.
[2065.42 --> 2068.44] And it's like full steel tang throughout the entire thing.
[2068.50 --> 2071.96] It's not like you could sharpen it and it would be very, very real.
[2072.16 --> 2073.28] It's not sharp though.
[2073.72 --> 2074.14] Okay.
[2074.94 --> 2076.08] It's fricking sweet.
[2076.08 --> 2078.20] Anyways.
[2079.82 --> 2084.82] So, um, we're not getting ice lake and okay, whatever.
[2084.82 --> 2090.16] We're not getting ice lake until sometime in 2020, I guess is the point.
[2090.48 --> 2093.96] So Intel has already acknowledged, oops.
[2094.30 --> 2098.72] Intel has already acknowledged that they're going to lose some server market share to AMD
[2098.72 --> 2103.72] and their Epic architecture or their Epic processors based on their Zen architecture.
[2104.46 --> 2110.02] Um, but this is looking pretty, pretty bad.
[2110.10 --> 2115.94] This gives AMD like a full, looks like over two years to steal market share from Intel.
[2115.94 --> 2124.24] And in the server space, if AMD had a performance or a cost advantage, or even a significant technological
[2124.24 --> 2132.70] advantage for let's say six months or even 18 months, Intel probably wouldn't care because
[2132.70 --> 2137.96] what a lot of consumers don't realize is that the lead times on this kind of technology,
[2138.08 --> 2142.08] these kinds of products and the development process is very long.
[2142.08 --> 2148.52] So if Intel had a product that they were shipping, let's say today, right now, mid 2018, that
[2148.52 --> 2154.52] was serving the needs of their customers reasonably well, and AMD launched some kind of disruptive
[2154.52 --> 2160.14] technology today, Intel is already working on, like they wouldn't have a roadmap for these
[2160.14 --> 2162.24] processors if they weren't doing work on them.
[2162.36 --> 2165.60] So they're already working on the tech that they're planning to launch in 2020.
[2165.60 --> 2174.84] Now if AMD's compelling performance advantage, um, got, you know, IT departments or sysadmins
[2174.84 --> 2181.70] or, uh, supercomputer architects got them looking at it and Intel could say, hold on, you know,
[2182.04 --> 2184.46] we're, we're working on something by 2020.
[2184.76 --> 2185.68] We'll be ready.
[2186.10 --> 2190.78] Um, here, we'll get you some stuff early so that you can make sure that, you know, you're
[2190.78 --> 2192.80] not delaying your project too much.
[2192.80 --> 2196.32] Um, and specs, you know, how much heat you're going to have to deal with.
[2196.40 --> 2196.42] Yep.
[2196.42 --> 2199.32] So you can, you can build out all that other stuff and buy the CPUs at the last minute.
[2199.32 --> 2200.94] We'll have volume ramped up by that time.
[2201.90 --> 2206.72] Something like 18 months for a project like that wouldn't be an unreasonable amount of
[2206.72 --> 2208.12] time to ask someone to wait.
[2208.60 --> 2212.74] The problem is that AMD launched Zen, what, a year ago?
[2212.90 --> 2213.62] It's been a while.
[2213.68 --> 2214.44] It's been a while.
[2214.66 --> 2215.44] AMD launched Zen.
[2215.48 --> 2216.82] I think it was about a year ago.
[2216.82 --> 2224.28] So now AMD is in a position where they have a compelling offering, not just for a short

[1944.24 --> 1945.82] This is just kind of a funny part.

[1946.24 --> 1949.82] During the reception, the bride and the groom would go off to consummate the marriage and

[1949.82 --> 1951.62] they would come back and then everyone would have dinner.

[1951.86 --> 1952.96] It's not really how that works anymore.

[1953.60 --> 1955.26] I mean, you could probably pull it off.

[1955.26 --> 1958.10] Like, technically, a lot of people go off to do a photo shoot.

[1958.20 --> 1959.60] That photo shoot could be very naked.

[1959.60 --> 1960.14] It could.

[1960.26 --> 1960.60] It could.

[1960.70 --> 1961.40] It definitely could.

[1961.56 --> 1961.68] Yep.

[1961.80 --> 1963.22] It's just not generally done anymore.

[1963.22 --> 1963.44] Yeah.

[1963.56 --> 1963.76] Yeah.

[1963.94 --> 1964.08] Yeah.

[1964.08 --> 1969.02] But at that time, the best man doesn't hang out with the other people.

[1969.68 --> 1973.56] The best man goes with the bride and groom, but not into the room.

[1973.82 --> 1975.52] He stands guard outside the door.

[1975.52 --> 1977.12] You don't have to do that, do you?

[1977.12 --> 1977.74] Because theoretically, no.

[1977.92 --> 1978.54] No, no, no, no.

[1978.54 --> 1979.06] That's good.

[1979.42 --> 1981.58] The whole thing is more there as like a joke.

[1981.68 --> 1982.28] Yes, it would be.

[1983.08 --> 1989.20] But yeah, you stand guard outside the door because until they've completed the consummation,

[1989.72 --> 1991.08] the marriage isn't final.

[1991.58 --> 1995.72] So someone might try to come and steal the bride before that happens.

[1995.72 --> 1998.82] So you have to stand outside the door and guard them.

[2000.98 --> 2002.76] There's a lot more to it.

[2002.84 --> 2007.20] If you want to go down a really weird path, a very funny path of history, you can look

[2007.20 --> 2007.48] it up.

[2008.32 --> 2010.56] But I'm bringing a sword kind of as a joke.

[2010.72 --> 2012.32] It's not like a super serious thing.

[2013.90 --> 2014.30] Yeah.

[2014.68 --> 2015.28] Got it.

[2015.44 --> 2016.30] Thank you for that.

[2016.38 --> 2019.12] That was both disturbing and enlightening.

[2019.26 --> 2020.18] I appreciate it.

[2020.96 --> 2021.42] All right.

[2021.90 --> 2023.66] So let's do a tech topic then.

[2023.66 --> 2026.36] CJ09 Bira posted this on the forum.

[2027.20 --> 2035.56] The original article is from overclock3d.net, but it looks like Intel may have delayed 10

[2035.56 --> 2038.08] nanometer ice lake until what?

[2038.20 --> 2038.60] 2020.

[2038.96 --> 2039.34] Wow.

[2039.52 --> 2039.82] Dang.

[2039.90 --> 2041.24] I think it's 2020 for server.

[2042.06 --> 2045.00] And I thought it was 2019 for consumer.

[2045.96 --> 2047.20] Something along those lines here.

[2047.26 --> 2047.38] Yeah.

[2047.38 --> 2048.86] We can have a look at this here.

[2049.32 --> 2051.04] Someone in the chat said swords are heavy, Luke.

[2051.04 --> 2051.48] Yeah.

[2051.54 --> 2056.18] It's also, if it's on the ground, it goes up to here on me.

[2056.68 --> 2057.06] Really?

[2057.40 --> 2058.66] It's, it's Anduril.

[2059.40 --> 2061.06] It's the reforged sword.

[2061.70 --> 2063.42] It's Aragorn's blade from Lord of the Rings.

[2063.54 --> 2064.08] Of course it is.

[2064.40 --> 2064.96] Heck yeah.

[2065.42 --> 2068.44] And it's like full steel tang throughout the entire thing.

[2068.50 --> 2071.96] It's not like you could sharpen it and it would be very, very real.

[2072.16 --> 2073.28] It's not sharp though.

[2073.72 --> 2074.14] Okay.

[2074.94 --> 2076.08] It's fricking sweet.

[2076.08 --> 2078.20] Anyways.

[2079.82 --> 2084.82] So, um, we're not getting ice lake and okay, whatever.

[2084.82 --> 2090.16] We're not getting ice lake until sometime in 2020, I guess is the point.

[2090.48 --> 2093.96] So Intel has already acknowledged, oops.

[2094.30 --> 2098.72] Intel has already acknowledged that they're going to lose some server market share to AMD

[2098.72 --> 2103.72] and their Epic architecture or their Epic processors based on their Zen architecture.

[2104.46 --> 2110.02] Um, but this is looking pretty, pretty bad.

[2110.10 --> 2115.94] This gives AMD like a full, looks like over two years to steal market share from Intel.

[2115.94 --> 2124.24] And in the server space, if AMD had a performance or a cost advantage, or even a significant technological

[2124.24 --> 2132.70] advantage for let's say six months or even 18 months, Intel probably wouldn't care because

[2132.70 --> 2137.96] what a lot of consumers don't realize is that the lead times on this kind of technology,

[2138.08 --> 2142.08] these kinds of products and the development process is very long.

[2142.08 --> 2148.52] So if Intel had a product that they were shipping, let's say today, right now, mid 2018, that

[2148.52 --> 2154.52] was serving the needs of their customers reasonably well, and AMD launched some kind of disruptive

[2154.52 --> 2160.14] technology today, Intel is already working on, like they wouldn't have a roadmap for these

[2160.14 --> 2162.24] processors if they weren't doing work on them.

[2162.36 --> 2165.60] So they're already working on the tech that they're planning to launch in 2020.

[2165.60 --> 2174.84] Now if AMD's compelling performance advantage, um, got, you know, IT departments or sysadmins

[2174.84 --> 2181.70] or, uh, supercomputer architects got them looking at it and Intel could say, hold on, you know,

[2182.04 --> 2184.46] we're, we're working on something by 2020.

[2184.76 --> 2185.68] We'll be ready.

[2186.10 --> 2190.78] Um, here, we'll get you some stuff early so that you can make sure that, you know, you're

[2190.78 --> 2192.80] not delaying your project too much.

[2192.80 --> 2196.32] Um, and specs, you know, how much heat you're going to have to deal with.

[2196.40 --> 2196.42] Yep.

[2196.42 --> 2199.32] So you can, you can build out all that other stuff and buy the CPUs at the last minute.

[2199.32 --> 2200.94] We'll have volume ramped up by that time.

[2201.90 --> 2206.72] Something like 18 months for a project like that wouldn't be an unreasonable amount of

[2206.72 --> 2208.12] time to ask someone to wait.

[2208.60 --> 2212.74] The problem is that AMD launched Zen, what, a year ago?

[2212.90 --> 2213.62] It's been a while.

[2213.68 --> 2214.44] It's been a while.

[2214.66 --> 2215.44] AMD launched Zen.

[2215.48 --> 2216.82] I think it was about a year ago.

[2216.82 --> 2224.28] So now AMD is in a position where they have a compelling offering, not just for a short