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[1700.58 --> 1705.08] But surely this is not going to be the last solution.
[1707.40 --> 1709.66] We've got a note in the notes from James here.
[1709.78 --> 1710.98] Wouldn't Apple have known about this?
[1711.06 --> 1712.14] Why didn't they warn consumers?
[1712.14 --> 1716.14] You know, I can see this being the kind of thing that Apple might not have noticed.
[1717.60 --> 1717.94] Why would they?
[1717.94 --> 1719.14] Okay, I would probably see...
[1719.66 --> 1722.06] I would give them the benefit of the doubt there as well.
[1722.20 --> 1723.96] And I'm kind of king of like, no!
[1725.02 --> 1725.74] Don't do it!
[1725.92 --> 1727.42] But yeah, in this case I honestly would.
[1728.12 --> 1730.16] But their response?
[1730.42 --> 1731.50] How fast was their response?
[1732.96 --> 1734.26] I think it was within a day or two.
[1734.68 --> 1735.38] So they might have.
[1735.38 --> 1736.28] Hmm.
[1737.04 --> 1737.40] Right?
[1738.94 --> 1741.38] Right, so you're saying anything that they wouldn't...
[1742.70 --> 1745.38] If they didn't take three to five days to validate it...
[1746.42 --> 1747.02] Or wait, no.
[1747.94 --> 1748.24] Right!
[1748.66 --> 1751.06] The fact that they think it might fade in three to five days...
[1751.06 --> 1751.24] Yeah.
[1751.56 --> 1753.52] And they didn't have three to five days to figure it out.
[1753.52 --> 1755.28] So I would normally give them the benefit of the doubt.
[1755.58 --> 1757.74] But I think they played their cards pretty clearly here.
[1758.12 --> 1758.98] They must have already known.
[1758.98 --> 1761.62] Because they...
[1761.62 --> 1763.76] Apple's king of just like, I don't know.
[1764.74 --> 1766.54] So if they do totally know...
[1766.54 --> 1766.82] They're holding it wrong.
[1766.82 --> 1768.40] And they're like, three to five days.
[1768.58 --> 1769.24] This is it.
[1769.52 --> 1770.26] Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[1771.74 --> 1774.02] Maybe get on our level and get more glass furniture.
[1774.22 --> 1776.18] If it doesn't fade out in three to five days...
[1776.18 --> 1778.28] Use this specific oiling method.
[1779.08 --> 1780.20] Like, I don't know.
[1780.40 --> 1781.32] I think they knew.
[1783.70 --> 1785.14] I would give them benefit of the doubt.
[1785.28 --> 1785.98] Except...
[1787.30 --> 1787.92] Uh, yeah.
[1787.92 --> 1789.96] I think they basically told us that they knew.
[1790.42 --> 1790.56] Hmm.
[1791.52 --> 1791.84] Alright.
[1792.08 --> 1793.22] Well, at any rate...
[1793.22 --> 1794.48] If they didn't respond...
[1794.48 --> 1796.34] I would say, oh yeah, I doubt they know.
[1798.04 --> 1800.26] I don't think any of my smart speakers are sitting on...
[1800.26 --> 1800.72] You know what?
[1800.76 --> 1801.46] No, I do have one.
[1801.50 --> 1802.94] I have the Sonos Play 3.
[1803.48 --> 1804.40] That's sitting on...
[1804.40 --> 1805.40] It's sitting on the...
[1806.02 --> 1806.80] So I have a...
[1806.80 --> 1807.88] And it says Sonos does it too.
[1808.60 --> 1809.40] So I have a wardrobe...
[1809.96 --> 1811.78] That has two drawers in the bottom.
[1812.04 --> 1813.68] And then it just has like an open slot.
[1813.90 --> 1815.40] Where you can put like...
[1815.40 --> 1817.00] You know, belts or ties or something.
[1817.00 --> 1818.12] And I have a...
[1818.12 --> 1818.72] I have a plate...
[1818.72 --> 1819.32] I don't have any...
[1819.32 --> 1820.08] I don't have any ties.
[1820.22 --> 1821.00] And I only have one belt.
[1821.20 --> 1823.02] So I have a Sonos Play 3 in there.
[1823.84 --> 1824.80] So I should check.
[1825.04 --> 1826.14] I should check and see if...
[1826.14 --> 1826.66] See if it's stained.
[1827.92 --> 1829.66] This wasn't posted to the forum apparently.
[1829.88 --> 1832.18] James found it over on Ars Technica.
[1832.18 --> 1839.38] AMD is sending out free processors to solve firmware flashing catch-22 apparently.
[1840.60 --> 1845.92] So AMD will help you out if your new motherboard needs a new BIOS to work with your new CPU.
[1846.64 --> 1849.24] Now these kinds of issues have come up before.
[1851.12 --> 1854.92] So this really surprises me that they would be doing this.
[1854.92 --> 1859.24] So one of AMD's selling points compared to Intel...
[1859.24 --> 1860.02] Yeah, that's weird.
[1860.42 --> 1867.22] ...over the last little while has been forwards and backwards compatibility of their CPUs and their motherboard and chipset platforms.
[1867.80 --> 1874.24] And for most intents and purposes, when we're talking AM2, AM2+, AM3...
[1875.10 --> 1877.12] Was there an AM3+, can't remember.
[1877.12 --> 1887.26] For most intents and purposes, this hasn't really mattered much because there wasn't really a significant upgrade to make.
[1888.06 --> 1890.12] Like anyone who went from an 1100T...
[1890.72 --> 1891.18] What was that?
[1891.26 --> 1891.72] Tubin?
[1892.10 --> 1894.38] To a Piledriver, I think.
[1894.46 --> 1895.86] I can't remember all the code names.
[1895.94 --> 1903.22] Anyway, anyone who went from their high-performance 6 core to their high-performance 8 core actually lost performance in a lot of situations.
[1903.22 --> 1909.06] So there wasn't really a compelling reason to want to cross-contaminate your platform.
[1910.00 --> 1910.22] But...
[1910.22 --> 1918.08] And the other thing, too, is that they were comparing themselves to Intel, who's notorious for going,
[1918.18 --> 1920.42] Okay, yeah, a chipset has a two-year lifespan.
[1920.94 --> 1921.56] That's it.
[1923.62 --> 1926.00] So one of the big pitches with AM4 was like,
[1926.10 --> 1930.92] Hey, you don't notice every AM4 board has a graphics output on it?
[1930.92 --> 1936.38] You're going to be able to take AMD upcoming Zen-based APUs.
[1936.54 --> 1939.74] So CPU and GPU combination chips with integrated graphics.
[1939.84 --> 1941.42] You're going to be able to plug them into these boards and go.
[1942.72 --> 1947.62] Now, in this case, there is a compelling reason why you might actually want to do that.
[1947.62 --> 1952.04] And, aside from upgrading, because you wouldn't upgrade to one of the new...