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[2848.60 --> 2848.98] Interesting.
[2848.98 --> 2850.08] But like they've done that sort of thing before.
[2850.22 --> 2853.30] Like the 275 launched way after the 260 and the 280.
[2853.58 --> 2853.70] Yeah.
[2853.90 --> 2855.52] But that was similar architecturally.
[2855.62 --> 2859.30] I don't see them launching a new architecture without giving it a clear new series.
[2859.52 --> 2864.56] But if they used numbers that kind of seemed like it positioned them between older cards,
[2865.54 --> 2869.46] I don't know if it would surprise me that much either.
[2869.46 --> 2873.80] Because you've got to remember, if NVIDIA holds true to the pattern that has been true since
[2873.80 --> 2879.04] the GTX 680, we are not getting big Turing at the initial launch.
[2879.36 --> 2881.04] We are getting mid-sized Turing.
[2881.04 --> 2887.72] So a GTX 1080 Ti is a very different card from a 1080.
[2888.18 --> 2891.92] They are more different than a 1080 and a 1070 are.
[2891.96 --> 2892.90] That's the way it works now.
[2892.98 --> 2899.94] 1080 Ti is a big chip and 1080 and 1070 are both step down mid-sized chips.
[2899.94 --> 2905.96] So we are getting the new generation mid-chip, which I don't know, may or may not actually
[2905.96 --> 2908.16] perform any better than last gen big chip.
[2908.64 --> 2911.56] Are we going to actually make a compensator?
[2912.38 --> 2913.06] I don't know.
[2913.20 --> 2914.06] If we get a new big chip?
[2914.94 --> 2916.56] We kind of skipped three.
[2917.52 --> 2917.98] Sort of.
[2918.12 --> 2918.28] Didn't we?
[2918.42 --> 2919.06] Sort of.
[2919.18 --> 2919.70] I think so.
[2919.86 --> 2923.04] There wasn't a, usually there's like a very opportune moment.
[2923.24 --> 2924.50] Well, there's no four-way SLI anymore.
[2924.78 --> 2925.06] Yeah.
[2925.36 --> 2925.94] So that doesn't help.
[2926.24 --> 2926.46] Yeah.
[2926.46 --> 2930.64] Well, like, isn't there for specifically benchmarking reasons?
[2930.88 --> 2931.12] Maybe.
[2931.12 --> 2932.32] I always hate it when people do that, though.
[2932.50 --> 2933.44] Maybe, but it's really dumb.
[2933.48 --> 2933.84] It's stupid.
[2934.96 --> 2935.90] So it's not as cool.
[2936.48 --> 2938.52] Apparently, we'll initially have three power brackets.
[2939.46 --> 2941.86] 120 watt, 150 watt, and 180 watt.
[2941.92 --> 2948.30] And what's interesting about that is NVIDIA has, over the last several years, anyway, gone
[2948.30 --> 2949.86] with a staggered rollout for their new lineup.
[2950.66 --> 2951.84] Oh, that piece was a little spicier.
[2952.50 --> 2953.32] Oh, I'm fine.
[2954.12 --> 2954.50] I'm fine.
[2954.50 --> 2955.54] The sweet Sriracha?
[2955.54 --> 2958.02] Yeah, that piece was a little bit on the spicier side.
[2958.46 --> 2959.44] It's good, though, actually.
[2961.38 --> 2963.62] So they've gone with a very staggered rollout.
[2963.70 --> 2964.98] So they've gone like, okay, here's the high end.
[2965.24 --> 2966.26] Then they're like, wait a couple months.
[2966.34 --> 2967.24] Okay, here's the next one.
[2967.40 --> 2967.96] Wait a couple months.
[2968.04 --> 2968.68] Here's the next one.
[2969.02 --> 2971.74] That allows them to kind of stretch out their PR coverage.
[2972.68 --> 2973.00] Yeah.
[2973.32 --> 2977.48] Keeps people from kind of getting bored of like this wave of GPU news.
[2977.62 --> 2978.78] Gives us more stuff to talk about.
[2978.78 --> 2980.22] And then nothing for two years, you know?
[2980.22 --> 2980.54] Yeah.
[2982.24 --> 2989.64] But what this sounds like is that at 120, 150, 180 watt, they might be doing a broader refresh.
[2990.00 --> 2994.60] And the reason for doing that might be that AMD is actually relatively competitive at the
[2994.60 --> 2996.20] 120 watt TDP range.
[2996.40 --> 2998.08] So they might want to just go, you know what?
[2998.14 --> 2998.44] Forget it.
[2998.44 --> 2999.46] Let's just go bump.
[2999.46 --> 3006.16] And make life very, very difficult for our one competitor in the space all in one go.
[3008.00 --> 3008.80] Very interesting.
[3009.76 --> 3015.08] It is rumored that 1080 Ti MSRP will drop by $100 and 1080 MSRP will drop by $50.
[3015.42 --> 3022.96] This is also a solid indication that the upcoming 1180 and 1170, I'm just using those as placeholders,
[3022.96 --> 3029.84] don't really perform that amazingly differently than the ones that they are replacing.
[3030.18 --> 3030.44] Yeah.
[3031.10 --> 3032.06] We'll see.
[3034.42 --> 3037.32] But potential price drops on 1080 Ti and 1080.
[3037.64 --> 3037.86] Yeah.
[3037.96 --> 3039.04] That's never a bad thing.
[3039.04 --> 3040.42] Which happens pretty much every time.
[3040.48 --> 3041.22] It is never a bad thing.
[3041.70 --> 3045.52] We actually filmed our MacBook Pro 2018 video today.
[3045.86 --> 3048.14] So there's going to be more detail about this and that.
[3048.14 --> 3054.40] But it looks like the throttling for the MacBook Pro has been fixed in macOS.
[3054.62 --> 3057.98] So it came as an update to High Sierra 10.13.6.
[3058.34 --> 3062.64] And they have issued an apology to consumers who experience less than optimal performance
[3062.64 --> 3064.04] on their new 2018 machines.
[3066.80 --> 3069.36] Now, they said that this was a firmware patch.
[3069.48 --> 3070.86] A missing digital key.
[3071.06 --> 3072.04] Issued with this update.
[3072.30 --> 3077.62] But Anthony's testing shows no performance change in Windows after downloading and installing
[3077.62 --> 3077.90] this.
[3077.96 --> 3080.20] So it seems like it didn't actually make any changes to firmware.
[3080.34 --> 3083.12] And we'll talk in a little bit more detail about that in our MacBook Pro video.
[3084.88 --> 3085.68] Oh, Facebook.
[3086.68 --> 3090.86] Facebook stock crashed harder than any stock has ever crashed before.
[3092.62 --> 3094.66] This is posted by SC2 Mitch on the forum.
[3096.22 --> 3100.08] They were apparently sued today over a disappointing earnings announcement.
[3100.20 --> 3100.36] Okay.
[3100.40 --> 3101.32] I didn't know about that.
[3101.44 --> 3101.72] Wow.
[3101.72 --> 3108.22] But it resulted in the loss of $120 billion of shareholder wealth, making it the biggest
[3108.22 --> 3110.56] one-day loss in U.S. market history.
[3110.78 --> 3114.64] Apparently, Zuckerberg went down like two spots on the world's richest list or something.
[3114.70 --> 3115.04] Really?

[2848.60 --> 2848.98] Interesting.

[2848.98 --> 2850.08] But like they've done that sort of thing before.

[2850.22 --> 2853.30] Like the 275 launched way after the 260 and the 280.

[2853.58 --> 2853.70] Yeah.

[2853.90 --> 2855.52] But that was similar architecturally.

[2855.62 --> 2859.30] I don't see them launching a new architecture without giving it a clear new series.

[2859.52 --> 2864.56] But if they used numbers that kind of seemed like it positioned them between older cards,

[2865.54 --> 2869.46] I don't know if it would surprise me that much either.

[2869.46 --> 2873.80] Because you've got to remember, if NVIDIA holds true to the pattern that has been true since

[2873.80 --> 2879.04] the GTX 680, we are not getting big Turing at the initial launch.

[2879.36 --> 2881.04] We are getting mid-sized Turing.

[2881.04 --> 2887.72] So a GTX 1080 Ti is a very different card from a 1080.

[2888.18 --> 2891.92] They are more different than a 1080 and a 1070 are.

[2891.96 --> 2892.90] That's the way it works now.

[2892.98 --> 2899.94] 1080 Ti is a big chip and 1080 and 1070 are both step down mid-sized chips.

[2899.94 --> 2905.96] So we are getting the new generation mid-chip, which I don't know, may or may not actually

[2905.96 --> 2908.16] perform any better than last gen big chip.

[2908.64 --> 2911.56] Are we going to actually make a compensator?

[2912.38 --> 2913.06] I don't know.

[2913.20 --> 2914.06] If we get a new big chip?

[2914.94 --> 2916.56] We kind of skipped three.

[2917.52 --> 2917.98] Sort of.

[2918.12 --> 2918.28] Didn't we?

[2918.42 --> 2919.06] Sort of.

[2919.18 --> 2919.70] I think so.

[2919.86 --> 2923.04] There wasn't a, usually there's like a very opportune moment.

[2923.24 --> 2924.50] Well, there's no four-way SLI anymore.

[2924.78 --> 2925.06] Yeah.

[2925.36 --> 2925.94] So that doesn't help.

[2926.24 --> 2926.46] Yeah.

[2926.46 --> 2930.64] Well, like, isn't there for specifically benchmarking reasons?

[2930.88 --> 2931.12] Maybe.

[2931.12 --> 2932.32] I always hate it when people do that, though.

[2932.50 --> 2933.44] Maybe, but it's really dumb.

[2933.48 --> 2933.84] It's stupid.

[2934.96 --> 2935.90] So it's not as cool.

[2936.48 --> 2938.52] Apparently, we'll initially have three power brackets.

[2939.46 --> 2941.86] 120 watt, 150 watt, and 180 watt.

[2941.92 --> 2948.30] And what's interesting about that is NVIDIA has, over the last several years, anyway, gone

[2948.30 --> 2949.86] with a staggered rollout for their new lineup.

[2950.66 --> 2951.84] Oh, that piece was a little spicier.

[2952.50 --> 2953.32] Oh, I'm fine.

[2954.12 --> 2954.50] I'm fine.

[2954.50 --> 2955.54] The sweet Sriracha?

[2955.54 --> 2958.02] Yeah, that piece was a little bit on the spicier side.

[2958.46 --> 2959.44] It's good, though, actually.

[2961.38 --> 2963.62] So they've gone with a very staggered rollout.

[2963.70 --> 2964.98] So they've gone like, okay, here's the high end.

[2965.24 --> 2966.26] Then they're like, wait a couple months.

[2966.34 --> 2967.24] Okay, here's the next one.

[2967.40 --> 2967.96] Wait a couple months.

[2968.04 --> 2968.68] Here's the next one.

[2969.02 --> 2971.74] That allows them to kind of stretch out their PR coverage.

[2972.68 --> 2973.00] Yeah.

[2973.32 --> 2977.48] Keeps people from kind of getting bored of like this wave of GPU news.

[2977.62 --> 2978.78] Gives us more stuff to talk about.

[2978.78 --> 2980.22] And then nothing for two years, you know?

[2980.22 --> 2980.54] Yeah.

[2982.24 --> 2989.64] But what this sounds like is that at 120, 150, 180 watt, they might be doing a broader refresh.

[2990.00 --> 2994.60] And the reason for doing that might be that AMD is actually relatively competitive at the

[2994.60 --> 2996.20] 120 watt TDP range.

[2996.40 --> 2998.08] So they might want to just go, you know what?

[2998.14 --> 2998.44] Forget it.

[2998.44 --> 2999.46] Let's just go bump.

[2999.46 --> 3006.16] And make life very, very difficult for our one competitor in the space all in one go.

[3008.00 --> 3008.80] Very interesting.

[3009.76 --> 3015.08] It is rumored that 1080 Ti MSRP will drop by $100 and 1080 MSRP will drop by $50.

[3015.42 --> 3022.96] This is also a solid indication that the upcoming 1180 and 1170, I'm just using those as placeholders,

[3022.96 --> 3029.84] don't really perform that amazingly differently than the ones that they are replacing.

[3030.18 --> 3030.44] Yeah.

[3031.10 --> 3032.06] We'll see.

[3034.42 --> 3037.32] But potential price drops on 1080 Ti and 1080.

[3037.64 --> 3037.86] Yeah.

[3037.96 --> 3039.04] That's never a bad thing.

[3039.04 --> 3040.42] Which happens pretty much every time.

[3040.48 --> 3041.22] It is never a bad thing.

[3041.70 --> 3045.52] We actually filmed our MacBook Pro 2018 video today.

[3045.86 --> 3048.14] So there's going to be more detail about this and that.

[3048.14 --> 3054.40] But it looks like the throttling for the MacBook Pro has been fixed in macOS.

[3054.62 --> 3057.98] So it came as an update to High Sierra 10.13.6.

[3058.34 --> 3062.64] And they have issued an apology to consumers who experience less than optimal performance

[3062.64 --> 3064.04] on their new 2018 machines.

[3066.80 --> 3069.36] Now, they said that this was a firmware patch.

[3069.48 --> 3070.86] A missing digital key.

[3071.06 --> 3072.04] Issued with this update.

[3072.30 --> 3077.62] But Anthony's testing shows no performance change in Windows after downloading and installing

[3077.62 --> 3077.90] this.

[3077.96 --> 3080.20] So it seems like it didn't actually make any changes to firmware.

[3080.34 --> 3083.12] And we'll talk in a little bit more detail about that in our MacBook Pro video.

[3084.88 --> 3085.68] Oh, Facebook.

[3086.68 --> 3090.86] Facebook stock crashed harder than any stock has ever crashed before.

[3092.62 --> 3094.66] This is posted by SC2 Mitch on the forum.

[3096.22 --> 3100.08] They were apparently sued today over a disappointing earnings announcement.

[3100.20 --> 3100.36] Okay.

[3100.40 --> 3101.32] I didn't know about that.

[3101.44 --> 3101.72] Wow.

[3101.72 --> 3108.22] But it resulted in the loss of $120 billion of shareholder wealth, making it the biggest

[3108.22 --> 3110.56] one-day loss in U.S. market history.

[3110.78 --> 3114.64] Apparently, Zuckerberg went down like two spots on the world's richest list or something.

[3114.70 --> 3115.04] Really?