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[477.58 --> 481.98] and he had a Windows update hit him while he was here and it bricked his Windows. I don't remember |
[481.98 --> 487.58] the exact details but he had to rush here in the morning and borrow a computer in a flash drive so |
[487.58 --> 491.18] that he could get Windows onto a flash drive so he could completely reformat everything so he could |
[491.18 --> 494.86] keep working. Microsoft genuinely earned the reputation that they have and they earned the people |
[494.86 --> 499.34] that will put up with this nonsense from Apple just to escape it. I completely understand it. Well I've had two |
[499.34 --> 503.82] systems completely fail on update to the point to where it was the system was completely unsavable. |
[503.82 --> 508.70] And I remember getting Windows Vista with a new machine where when it first came out you couldn't |
[508.70 --> 513.50] even run programs without running an update. You would just try to open a new browser and it would |
[513.50 --> 520.14] just sit there and then 20 minutes later it would open. Yeah. It's like I don't know. Really bad. My computer |
[520.14 --> 525.58] was one of the admittedly I guess probably over the overall spectrum of the amount of people that had this |
[525.58 --> 529.66] happened to him. Not that high percentage but my computer was one of the ones that when they forced |
[529.66 --> 534.70] the upgrade to Windows 10 I wasn't even at home. I had denied the upgrade so many times. Then I was |
[534.70 --> 538.78] at work and while I was at work my computer upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and bricked itself. That |
[538.78 --> 542.86] was when they implemented the like click here now before this countdown's gone if you don't want it. |
[542.86 --> 546.22] Yeah. Because they knew people were leaving their systems on walking away going to work. Yeah. |
[546.22 --> 551.10] Whatever. You'd come back suddenly mid-update. And I had even ran the scripts that are supposed to stop it. Yeah. |
[551.10 --> 555.58] But then they'd release some update that would get around that and it was just very frustrating. |
[555.58 --> 560.22] One thing I've enjoyed this entire conversation is that Wendell has been almost silent. |
[561.50 --> 564.86] I take it this way. If Wendell hasn't said anything yet we're not wrong. |
[566.22 --> 570.78] Well no. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I agree with that. But it's just the Linux man. Yeah. It's just like. |
[570.78 --> 577.42] Linux. There are systems that I have that have uptimes of like 600 days which is actually really bad because |
[577.42 --> 581.98] there are kernel updates and security updates and stuff like that. So those machines are potentially |
[581.98 --> 586.54] a typhoid Mary. But yeah. 600 days of uptime. Woo. Yeah. |
[586.54 --> 590.46] I like running Windows in a virtual machine because then it's like oh look Windows update |
[590.46 --> 593.90] broke itself. Segregated. I can just hit a button and it's like oh look it's the way that it was yesterday. |
[595.18 --> 596.86] Nice try Microsoft. You failed. |
[596.86 --> 600.14] Sweet. One of the things we're actually working on back in my studio right now is |
[600.86 --> 604.78] he landed on my hand right now. So we're gonna get him. Okay. Okay. He's back. |
[604.78 --> 610.38] We're actually gonna do some rollbacks and force updates. We're gonna do comparative benchmarks to |
[610.38 --> 614.22] see how much it actually impacts your system both high end and low end. Because there's times we're |
[614.22 --> 618.06] doing benchmarks and we're like what the heck. Suddenly something's weird. Like we start going |
[618.70 --> 623.50] really super stuttery or something. We realize like oh look background process updates happening |
[623.50 --> 627.02] and it's eating 25 percent of our resources. Yeah. Yeah. Anatech ran into that with their |
[628.22 --> 633.34] Zen Plus coverage. Yeah. The Rise of the Tomb Raider and a whole bunch of games were running |
[634.06 --> 639.58] as good or slightly better on AMD than Intel and it was because they had the high precision timer. |
[639.58 --> 644.22] Which reading and writing from hardware registers triggers the meltdown specter mitigations more I |
[644.22 --> 648.78] guess. Yeah. So depending on what you're doing you could have a significant reduction in performance. |
[648.78 --> 655.66] Right. It's an interesting situation. Do you want to talk a little bit about not too much because we |
[655.66 --> 659.10] got a video to release. But do you want to talk a little bit about what you're doing here with Anthony? |
[659.10 --> 665.66] It was exciting. Yeah. I spent Monday and Tuesday with Anthony doing Linux stuff and it's Linux on |
[665.66 --> 670.78] gaming. Gaming on Linux. And so we look at native Linux on gaming which is pretty cool. It basically |
[670.78 --> 676.94] works. And then gaming through wrappers like wine and all the various flavors of that. Running 12 |
[676.94 --> 682.94] different versions of wine at the same time easily. And then finally virtualization and the horizon for |
[682.94 --> 687.10] doing everything through a virtual machine and not really sacrificing anything in terms of performance. |
[687.10 --> 691.82] I'm really looking forward to that. That'll be really good. We'll have companion guides and stuff on the forum for |
[691.82 --> 697.82] like really nitty gritty step by step if you want to do Fedora or Ubuntu or you know Arch or whatever. |
[697.82 --> 703.66] And everything he just said is why we were talking earlier about how Apple is sometimes more easily accessible. |
[705.42 --> 711.82] 12 different versions of wine. Yeah. Oh, so you're running a game for Mac. Well, you're going to have to do the metal API. Sorry. |
[711.82 --> 716.54] It's gotten a lot better now. Like compared to let's say 15 years ago if you wanted to do a digital audio workstation, |
[716.54 --> 723.82] Linux was terrible for it. But it's gotten a lot better. Yeah. It's not, you know. Yeah. It's still got some rough edges. |
[723.82 --> 733.18] I extremely rarely do the hip things and go to clubs and stuff. But the only time I ever will is for one of my friends and on his birthday. |
[733.18 --> 741.58] And we went to one place and I noticed that the DJ had a giant MSI laptop with a full RGB keyboard and stuff. |
[741.58 --> 746.62] And I was even thinking like that's just like weird. Yeah. Like I took a photo because I was like oh it's cool. |
[746.62 --> 751.82] Usually it's a Macbook. But it's usually a Macbook and even just it was one of the like thick ones. |
[751.82 --> 754.94] Because it had the, I believe it was one of the mechanical keyboard ones. So like the Titans. |
[754.94 --> 760.14] It's just huge. Yeah. It's a massive, massive cumbersome laptop that he brings to shows. |
[760.14 --> 766.62] I firmly believe that this like we want laptops as thin as paper. I don't think that a lot of consumers really want that. |
[766.62 --> 774.62] I think consumers like thin and light. But I think if you tell a consumer hey you can get five more years out of this machine if it's got a replaceable keyboard and it's just a hair thicker. |
[774.62 --> 778.38] That doesn't seem unreasonable. You've talked about this a bunch with phones. |
[778.38 --> 782.86] Not to admit that I watch a huge amount of your content and have since way before I made videos. |
[782.86 --> 789.98] But you're talking about how you see a lot of reviewers review a phone. And it's different than consumers looking at a phone. |
[789.98 --> 792.06] Yeah. Because thickness, plastic backs, all that kind of stuff. |
[792.06 --> 797.02] There's this big disconnect when I read a review and then when I talk to people who come in and say what they want on a phone. |
[797.02 --> 801.26] Just while, you know, let's say we're fixing somebody's phone. We can have a 15 minute conversation. |
[801.26 --> 805.82] I've never heard a normal person that I've met in real life talk about the bezel of a phone. |
[805.82 --> 810.22] Every single reviewer they'll spend two or three paragraphs talking about the bezel. |
[810.22 --> 813.58] Like you know how it goes out to the end and how we find no casing at all. |
[813.58 --> 815.66] I've never heard somebody talk about that or care. |
[815.66 --> 820.78] You know in real life they think you know it would be nice if I dropped my phone from here to here that it not break. |
[820.78 --> 822.14] They don't care about the bezel. |
[822.14 --> 826.38] Or they'll say the back is made of premium materials but the regular person will say I can see fingerprints. |
[826.38 --> 827.10] That's ugly. |
[827.10 --> 827.66] Yeah. |
[827.66 --> 829.34] Or they're going to stick it in a case anyway and they don't care. |
[829.34 --> 832.70] Yeah. And it has to, you know, like a phone like this has to go in a case because it's, |
[832.70 --> 834.38] it'll crack if I go from here to here. |
[834.38 --> 834.70] Yeah. |
[834.70 --> 838.06] And the back of it looks nice but if I actually touch it you can feel fingerprints. |
[838.06 --> 842.06] The only thing I care about with bezel is whether or not it's slippery without a case. |
[842.06 --> 842.62] Yeah. |
[842.62 --> 842.86] The other thing. |
[842.86 --> 846.30] Phones are getting more slick over time, you know, and that's always bugged me. |
[846.30 --> 849.74] But other than that, that's why you don't really see phone reviews on my channel because I'm one of those people |
[849.74 --> 851.26] that just don't care about any of that. |
[851.26 --> 851.42] Yeah. |
[851.42 --> 855.74] And if you sold the phone, imagine if you, I think that if you put it in a bullet point, |
[855.74 --> 860.70] two years from now it will still work, the battery can be replaced and it's not going to slow down too terribly, |
[860.70 --> 863.74] that somebody may actually consider buying it over something else, you know. |
[863.74 --> 867.66] You have an extra eighth of a millimeter but you can replace the battery. |
[867.66 --> 869.82] I have an LG G5 for just that reason. |
[869.82 --> 875.34] It's, you know, ancient by today's standards but removable battery and metal back and still |
[875.34 --> 877.26] has a fingerprint sensor and it's not like super heavy. |
[877.26 --> 879.98] And I see a lot of people say, yeah, but in two years you're going to get a new phone anyway. |
[879.98 --> 883.66] It's like, okay, you may get a new phone anyway in two years but somebody that doesn't want to |
[883.66 --> 885.50] spend an extra two or four hundred dollars isn't. |
[885.50 --> 887.18] Yeah, I think G5 is... |
[887.18 --> 888.62] I'm sorry, I didn't... |
[888.62 --> 890.94] I used to be an annual upgrader but not anymore. |
[890.94 --> 891.34] Yeah. |
[891.34 --> 895.42] I'll go two years plus and usually the only thing that will make me upgrade is if I start |
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