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[3898.22 --> 3899.22] No way.
[3899.22 --> 3900.22] Yeah.
[3900.22 --> 3903.22] So that's the most surprised no way I've ever heard.
[3903.22 --> 3906.22] So they're a little problem.
[3906.22 --> 3908.22] So they're a little problematic with Macs.
[3908.22 --> 3912.22] The modern Macs, you have to use like a Thunderbolt dock that has like a DisplayPort socket.
[3912.22 --> 3913.22] You can't just use a cheap cable.
[3913.22 --> 3914.22] And I don't know what that's about.
[3914.22 --> 3916.22] So I'm working on that.
[3916.22 --> 3923.22] Yeah, I know that every Macbook since the touch bar with the dongle, if you use a dongle, it's not the Apple dongle.
[3923.22 --> 3924.22] Your devices won't work.
[3924.22 --> 3925.22] Yeah, it's a real pain.
[3925.22 --> 3927.22] I had planned to do a real review of that.
[3927.22 --> 3932.22] And once I got to the point where I plugged it in and I realized the dongle didn't work unless you used the $80 one.
[3932.22 --> 3934.22] And the $30 one worked in the two other machines I had.
[3934.22 --> 3936.22] I just couldn't stop by.
[3936.22 --> 3941.22] Well, one of the design choices on the KVM is that it does not have a repeater.
[3941.22 --> 3951.22] And so a lot of the signal is like a lot of the signal out of that DisplayPort cable is just barely enough that if it's going into the monitor, it's fine.
[3951.22 --> 3964.22] But if you send it in through the connector and then into the KVM, which is like another four inches of cable, and then back out again, the signal to noise ratio is not high enough for it to do a proper digital sync or whatever on that cable.
[3964.22 --> 3973.22] And it's infuriating because the spec says that it should be able to push an unamplified cable that's like eight meters or something like that.
[3973.22 --> 3975.22] And you're lucky to get four.
[3975.22 --> 3980.22] I'd be interested in what chipsets the trash can one uses because I think I've only opened one of those ever.
[3980.22 --> 3986.22] It's a D300, but it goes through, I think it goes through the board in the bottom and then back out the connector in the back.
[3986.22 --> 3989.22] And so they have a repeater or something in the board in the bottom.
[3989.22 --> 3990.22] And that's the problem.
[3990.22 --> 3991.22] Oh, yeah.
[3991.22 --> 3996.22] Because if I like just solder a little dongle directly on the D300, it's fine.
[3996.22 --> 3999.22] So you'd have to tell your customers to solder it directly to the Mac Pro.
[3999.22 --> 4004.22] Yeah, it's some of the witchcraft after the D300 before it makes it out of the Mac.
[4004.22 --> 4005.22] Some assembly and required.
[4005.22 --> 4006.22] Yeah.
[4006.22 --> 4012.22] You mentioned the, I think it was like four inches or whatever of cable within the box.
[4012.22 --> 4018.22] That was a, I'm going to tangent here a fair amount, but that was a really interesting situation when USB 3 first started becoming popular.
[4018.22 --> 4026.22] And you'd have those cases that have front IO, USB 3, but that were just cable extensions that would go all the way out the back of the case and plug into the back of your motherboard.
[4026.22 --> 4029.22] And then you'd have people with really long USB 3 cables.
[4029.22 --> 4035.22] So you'd have people with like 15 feet worth of total actual distance for USB 3 and then it won't charge their freaking devices.
[4035.22 --> 4036.22] Yeah.
[4036.22 --> 4037.22] But that remains a problem on cases.
[4037.22 --> 4040.22] I mean, the front panel of USB 3 is still hit and miss on a lot of cases.
[4040.22 --> 4041.22] It's still really long.
[4041.22 --> 4042.22] Yeah.
[4042.22 --> 4052.22] It's frustrating too when you, we're finally in the era where it isn't those weird extensions that have to go out the case and then into the motherboard in order to make it so you can plug in USB.
[4052.22 --> 4059.22] But they, some cases will still have USB just like header cables for USB 3 that you could plug into a different case.
[4059.22 --> 4061.22] Like it's like, why is it so long?
[4061.22 --> 4062.22] This is actually really bad.
[4062.22 --> 4065.22] But yeah, most people, most people don't know about that.
[4065.22 --> 4068.22] That being said though, I think we're going to cut it here because you have to grab a plane.
[4068.22 --> 4069.22] I have a flight.
[4069.22 --> 4070.22] Yeah.
[4070.22 --> 4071.22] You have to get out of here.
[4071.22 --> 4072.22] Thanks for watching the WAN show.
[4072.22 --> 4075.22] This was a bit of a, bit of a different way to do the WAN show.
[4075.22 --> 4080.22] We half covered one topic, but I think it was good.
[4080.22 --> 4082.22] It was fun to talk about a whole bunch of different stuff.
[4082.22 --> 4084.22] I'm going to let people shout out their channels again.
[4084.22 --> 4085.22] So Lewis.
[4085.22 --> 4086.22] Rossman group.
[4086.22 --> 4087.22] 2S is 2Ns.
[4087.22 --> 4088.22] 2S is 2Ns.
[4088.22 --> 4089.22] 2S is 2Ns.
[4089.22 --> 4090.22] Level one text.
[4090.22 --> 4091.22] Jay's two cents.
[4091.22 --> 4092.22] Perfect.
[4092.22 --> 4093.22] There we go.
[4093.22 --> 4095.22] I will see you guys next week.
[4095.22 --> 4097.22] I will possibly see you guys at LTX.
[4097.22 --> 4098.22] I'm going to enjoy some more of this.
[4098.22 --> 4099.22] I'll be there tomorrow.
[4099.22 --> 4100.22] Do it.
[4100.22 --> 4101.22] I'll be there.
[4101.22 --> 4103.22] Tomorrow as well.
[4103.22 --> 4105.22] Who are these?
[4105.22 --> 4106.22] These things?
[4106.22 --> 4107.22] Yeah.
[4107.22 --> 4109.22] So there's only one of them around.
[4109.22 --> 4110.22] I'll be there.
[4110.22 --> 4111.22] I'll be there.
[4111.22 --> 4112.22] I'll be there.
[4112.22 --> 4113.22] I'll be there.
[4113.22 --> 4114.22] I'll be there.
[4114.22 --> 4115.22] Uh, what was this?
[4115.22 --> 4116.22] It was the first week or the second week.
[4116.22 --> 4119.22] That was because, uh, it's amazing.
[4119.22 --> 4122.22] Uh, the guy wearing a French shirt.
[4122.22 --> 4124.22] I said him, you know what I do.
[4124.22 --> 4126.22] Yay, that's your key.
[4126.22 --> 4130.22] Yay, private internet access.
[4130.22 --> 4131.22] For all your privates.
[4131.22 --> 4132.22] Yay, LTX.
[4132.22 --> 4133.22] I need to get shilling scenes in open broadcasting.
[4133.22 --> 4134.22] Dude, it's great.
[4134.22 --> 4135.22] That's great.
[4135.22 --> 4136.22] I have to do it manually.
[4136.22 --> 4137.22] It sucks.
[4137.22 --> 4138.22] It sucks.
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