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[540.42 --> 543.54] pretty much everything i had to say there you guys can check that out if you want you probably have a |
[543.54 --> 551.52] notification if you're subscribed but um in a nutshell people were mad because i confused a tampon and a pad |
[551.52 --> 557.42] because the title said tampon okay and the thumbnail is holding a pad i don't know we probably shouldn't |
[557.42 --> 562.50] get into it i just i just don't understand um yeah we we probably shouldn't we probably shouldn't get |
[562.50 --> 569.68] into it because all we stand to do yeah all we stand to gain is more articles on mashable daily mail |
[569.68 --> 575.24] really and some yeah oh yeah like there are there are like articles about about this controversy |
[575.24 --> 581.42] that i'm kind of sitting here going okay like i guess i guess that's a thing that we need to |
[581.42 --> 588.76] write about today okay um i'm just gonna not comment let's move on yep so i don't i don't even want to |
[588.76 --> 594.22] cover this first topic either what's the first topic today the counter-strike thing oh yeah there's |
[594.22 --> 600.14] not really a lot to say well no it specifically says was not charged yeah crime so i don't really |
[600.14 --> 604.50] want to cover it because we're just like throwing this dude under the bus when he wasn't charged with a |
[604.50 --> 609.44] crime maybe if anything concrete comes out of it yeah i don't like the idea of just throwing his |
[609.44 --> 618.82] name under the bus when he's not uh arrested suspended by valve um yeah it's a suspension |
[618.82 --> 624.52] they're probably waiting till they okay statement from valve suspended from the developer while the |
[624.52 --> 629.72] company investigates does not have a criminal history so in a nutshell we're not going to name |
[629.72 --> 633.74] any names it doesn't look like anything's really happened here but one of the co-creators of |
[633.74 --> 641.24] counter-strike uh has been arrested and suspended from valve and uh there's what's weird is that |
[641.24 --> 649.94] he's been arrested but not charged with a crime and the police didn't say if an actual child was harmed |
[649.94 --> 658.00] he has no criminal history and of course the local news station is speculating as to you know what this |
[658.00 --> 665.74] might mean um but no one has actually indicated that uh they know exactly what's going on here so let's move into |
[665.74 --> 671.90] oh man why would amd even bring this up |
[671.90 --> 679.72] so this article from pcgamesn.com what does this mean for amd's reputation that's an interesting thing |
[679.72 --> 687.62] for me because so many gamers right now are really upset about lack of stock of parts about prices of |
[687.62 --> 696.60] things going up and the person or the group that everyone loves to hate is theoretically fighting |
[696.60 --> 702.14] against it at least in statement i don't know outside of that yeah but nvidia has stated at least |
[702.14 --> 706.18] i don't again i don't know outside of that they might be doing something i don't know if they are or not |
[706.18 --> 711.60] um that they that they are trying or they want gamers to still be able to buy graphics cards and |
[711.60 --> 716.08] stuff amd i don't think has stated anything about graphics cards as far as i know i could be ignorant |
[716.08 --> 721.66] on that topic it's not like my laptop's working right now um this might take several minutes yeah |
[721.66 --> 727.64] you bet it will but but is actively encouraging people to buy cpus for mining so they're trying to |
[727.64 --> 732.08] potentially crush the other side of the market and right now with everyone being mad at like |
[732.08 --> 738.32] what is it micro center or something i don't know because they're like bundling gpus with |
[738.32 --> 741.84] whole platforms but if you buy the whole platform you get the gpu at msrp |
[741.84 --> 750.44] okay sure but like if you don't you get it at a cranked up price right yeah that makes sense so it |
[750.44 --> 754.64] makes it tough for upgraders but that's but then upgraders are a huge part of the market because |
[754.64 --> 762.66] yeah you don't have to upgrade your cpu that often yeah so anyway the what what leads up what |
[762.66 --> 766.78] leads you know we should probably straw poll this but what led us to this conversation is that amd's |
[766.78 --> 773.44] technical marketing manager damian trillett believes that there's massive potential for home mining rigs |
[773.44 --> 778.32] with their thread ripper cpus and there's a few details here let's go through the like stuff that |
[778.32 --> 781.86] was said first and then we'll get into all the problems with this because there are some |
[781.86 --> 787.22] um so kryptonite can be mined with cpus that have about two megs of level three cash per mining |
[787.22 --> 792.82] thread level three cash is important for cpu mining yeah uh so this rules out almost all asic |
[792.82 --> 798.02] mining machines that are so far in production but favors cpus with high level three cash per core |
[798.02 --> 804.90] which thread ripper is designed for okay so we also said uh cpus could be acceptable for mining if |
[804.90 --> 808.76] they could handle very few threads very fast and that's exactly what thread ripper is able to do |
[808.76 --> 814.44] thread ripper comes with up to 32 megs of level three cash and it can keep the data set in cash |
[814.44 --> 820.28] which speeds up crypto mining a lot blah blah blah so with two megs per thread a thread ripper 1950x |
[820.28 --> 827.08] could run around 15 active mining threads not bad uh that would allow it to get in about the same |
[827.08 --> 833.24] ballpark as rx vega and it will be much faster for example this is all quoting them much faster than a |
[833.24 --> 840.12] 1080ti for example in kryptonite uh intel's hdt chips have far less level three cash per core |
[841.24 --> 846.92] so um he believes that a thread ripper could be capable of accumulating around 90 a month through |
[846.92 --> 852.28] the nice hash mining program though of course uh let me just check my handy dandy how much has the |
[852.84 --> 860.60] market fallen yeah um uh you know calculator here and it's dropped honestly this is not reflective of |
[860.60 --> 864.20] what happened yesterday so it's probably somewhere in the neighborhood of like 30 plus percent |
[864.20 --> 873.32] in the last couple of days um doop doop doop doop so your mileage may vary now of course um it could |
[873.32 --> 879.00] also go back up or it could go down 80 percent more i heard something happened last january as well so |
[879.00 --> 883.08] there could be a seasonal i'm pretty sure it's every january yeah there could be a seasonal element to this |
[883.08 --> 888.92] but um or there might not be who knows maybe every other january was just a coincidence and maybe this one |
[888.92 --> 898.28] is too or maybe this is the end of times who knows the end of mining um anyway so using his estimated |
[898.28 --> 904.92] earnings a threadripper 1920x would see a return beyond its own msrp of around 760 in just under nine |
[904.92 --> 916.52] months so oh yeah i'm not reading james you have to do it you do it is amd trying to cash in on that |
[916.52 --> 927.64] cryptocurrency c-a-c-h-e terrible okay so so funny problem number one is the perception problem yeah |
[928.28 --> 934.44] do you i think that's huge because you look at how many people were mad about the piece that we did |
[934.44 --> 939.16] on cryptocurrency mining what was it a week ago two weeks ago something like that did you check out |
[939.16 --> 944.20] mining adventure part two part three yeah uh part two the one with the gpus i've seen all of them okay |
[944.20 --> 949.56] you've seen all of them so mining adventure part two well roughly i'll skip through it we covered um |
[951.00 --> 959.32] building a more optimized gpu mining machine and that got 40 000 likes which is pretty good wow but |
[959.32 --> 967.00] also 10 000 dislikes yeah because the gamers so just over a fifth of you guys were mad enough that on a |
[967.00 --> 973.64] piece of content that i thought was pretty good whether you like mining or not i thought it was interesting |
[974.20 --> 979.72] um jake did a lot of research on this one we ended up with a pretty cool rig pretty optimized |
[979.72 --> 987.32] configuration anyway people were so mad that we got a fifth of you like pressing the dislike button to |
[987.32 --> 993.32] show your dissatisfaction with us even covering this stuff and there's 8 000 comments on it 8 000 i don't |
[993.32 --> 997.16] know who they should be mad at well okay i know at least one group that they should be mad at outside of |
[997.16 --> 1001.96] that i don't know if they should or should not be mad at other groups yeah uh but gamers i understand |
[1001.96 --> 1006.52] the gpu market is terrible right now yeah it's crazy i would not want to be building a computer i |
[1006.52 --> 1012.28] wouldn't build a computer i tweeted out like way before the whole internet made articles about it and |
[1012.28 --> 1015.72] then some people were like oh they copied you it's like no they didn't but whatever i still |
[1015.72 --> 1020.44] sure they figured it out independently yeah yeah it's a pretty common thought but buying consoles right now |
[1020.44 --> 1027.40] yeah yeah it's like actually if you just want a game a pretty decent idea it's like not a bad bet |
[1027.40 --> 1032.84] yeah and the crazy thing is you look at how quickly this happened oh because if you go back to mining |
[1032.84 --> 1040.52] adventure part one which it was fine back by many accounts or by or by a lot of accounts is a worse video |
[1040.52 --> 1049.24] yeah because we we did not try to build something optimized we actually went at it from a completely |
[1049.24 --> 1053.88] unoptimized way it's amazing by the way how's the point it's amazing how many comments there are on |
[1053.88 --> 1057.96] that video about how poorly optimized the build is that was the point even though we said it right in |
[1057.96 --> 1064.76] the video that that was what exactly what we were doing it's amazing how many people try really really |
[1064.76 --> 1075.72] hard to not understand a video anyway um so that had 50 000 likes and just 1600 dislikes that's about 97 |
[1075.72 --> 1080.92] percent and then this one's closer to 80 so the whole public perception was like this is okay and |
[1080.92 --> 1086.76] then this is suddenly not okay so that's again it makes sense from mid-november to mid-january |
[1087.72 --> 1093.56] two months and the perception changed that much around gpu mining well it went from like |
[1095.08 --> 1100.84] where i think is a good spot for it to be which is like oh gamers you can like make some more money |
[1100.84 --> 1105.00] doing this yeah and like if you if you have a couple gpus around or you want an excuse to play |
[1105.00 --> 1111.16] with hardware and buy some more graphics cards you can do this it went from that to like i'm getting a |
[1111.16 --> 1118.28] warehouse and then people got really upset about that right okay the solution linus coin |
[1120.20 --> 1124.76] did you see jake's tweet no he's saying instead of float coin we should call it sink coin |
[1124.76 --> 1133.24] saint coin sink sink because the market's sinking and because of it's sink coin because you should |
[1133.24 --> 1140.04] sink your investment into it all of it literally all of it yeah so so i think we've pretty much |
[1140.04 --> 1145.00] decided we have kind of talked about it a little bit to be clear when luke initially brought it up |
[1145.00 --> 1152.60] total joke in paul's video yeah yeah not a thing we had even talked about no at all pure trollage i still |
[1152.60 --> 1158.60] don't want to call it float coin pure trollage no we don't have to okay okay um but we've talked |
[1158.60 --> 1165.40] about it we're gonna do a coin and we're gonna do it as part of mining adventure and the point that |
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