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[521.00 --> 528.56] There's a thread on our forum posted by Aluminum Tech, also known as Aluminium Tech. |
[529.52 --> 532.12] And this thread is about the Facebook Messenger app |
[532.12 --> 537.82] and how Zuckerberg, the CEO of Facebook, this week confirmed that Facebook does indeed |
[537.82 --> 540.74] scan your messages, whether they're pictures or text or whatever, |
[542.44 --> 545.38] make sure that they conform with community guidelines |
[545.38 --> 549.60] before actually sending it to the recipient. |
[549.60 --> 553.02] So if you send something that's against their guidelines, |
[553.20 --> 555.82] like hate speech or inciting genocide or something like that, |
[555.94 --> 558.98] they may not actually deliver that message to whoever you're talking to, |
[559.28 --> 561.26] which definitely has some benefits. |
[562.12 --> 570.24] But the thread on our forum kind of erroneously implies that we're not just talking about |
[570.24 --> 574.92] Facebook Messenger's normal messaging when we're talking about this surveillance. |
[575.20 --> 577.80] It implies that we're talking about Facebook's secret function, |
[577.92 --> 582.00] which is more akin to apps like Signal or Telegram. |
[582.40 --> 583.56] And that's actually not the case. |
[583.68 --> 585.04] Facebook does have a function. |
[585.04 --> 590.38] Facebook Messenger has a function where you can make your chats encrypted end-to-end. |
[590.62 --> 593.00] And the interface turns black and there's a little lock. |
[593.34 --> 596.18] And you can even make exploding messages like Snapchat style. |
[597.20 --> 601.14] Facebook is not scanning those messages at all. |
[601.64 --> 603.44] Or maybe they are and we have no evidence of it. |
[603.48 --> 608.32] But the news or whatever Zuckerberg confirmed has nothing to do with the secret messages. |
[608.44 --> 610.72] It has to do with the normal messages. |
[610.72 --> 614.34] And so we really shouldn't be surprised that they're looking at those. |
[614.86 --> 617.06] So tell me then. |
[618.64 --> 620.40] Okay, do you use Facebook Messenger? |
[620.72 --> 622.56] Yeah, actually, it's one of my primary messaging apps. |
[622.76 --> 627.80] Okay, how do you feel about them scanning your messages with an automated system |
[627.80 --> 633.34] for community guidelines standards adherence? |
[633.34 --> 636.64] As opposed to like a human? |
[636.88 --> 639.16] Well, I guess I'm asking two questions first. |
[639.40 --> 642.56] So do you like or dislike it? |
[643.84 --> 645.80] Okay, first of all, I think we should clarify. |
[646.04 --> 648.44] I believe that they're scanned with an automated system. |
[648.56 --> 652.04] And once they're flagged, it requires a human to then say, |
[652.20 --> 653.68] this message is not getting sent through. |
[653.82 --> 655.08] I believe that's how it works. |
[655.18 --> 655.40] Sure. |
[656.48 --> 658.76] I am fine with my messages being scanned. |
[659.32 --> 659.72] Okay. |
[660.42 --> 662.38] And are you surprised by this? |
[662.66 --> 663.02] No. |
[663.02 --> 663.50] No. |
[663.86 --> 666.76] Should also mention that they do not use the data that they, |
[667.00 --> 669.04] any of the information that they scan, |
[669.50 --> 671.56] that information is not used to sell ads, |
[671.76 --> 675.00] which is what Gmail used to do prior to last year. |
[675.60 --> 676.16] Right. |
[679.74 --> 683.94] So I got to tell you, I, so, okay. |
[684.86 --> 685.92] Okay, story time. |
[685.92 --> 692.58] So the only reason that I use Facebook is that Facebook does not |
[692.58 --> 697.14] permit you to manage a Facebook page. |
[697.14 --> 702.44] So the first page that I had to manage and the reason that I had to create a Facebook account |
[702.44 --> 706.30] was the one for NCIX PC back when I worked there. |
[706.30 --> 710.04] So we were trying to get into this whole new fangled social media thing. |
[710.04 --> 718.00] And so I needed an account so that the page could invite me to manage it and make posts on it and stuff. |
[718.00 --> 725.48] I have probably posted of my own volition a grand total of, I don't know, between five and ten things on Facebook ever. |
[725.48 --> 738.32] I only use Facebook Messenger as sort of a digital phone book because the good thing about Facebook is that whether, you know, |
[738.32 --> 746.46] whether you're happy about it or whether you kind of just do it because you have to, pretty much everyone has it. |
[746.78 --> 754.34] And, yes, thank you, whoever's in the Twitch chat declaring that they do not have Facebook because they're taking some stand. |
[755.22 --> 756.00] Good for you. |
[756.10 --> 756.68] We're all jealous. |
[756.84 --> 757.74] We all want to be in your shoes. |
[757.98 --> 762.74] Yeah, but the truth of the matter is that Facebook is a great way to get in touch with people. |
[762.74 --> 769.18] And aside from people changing their names, like, yeah. |
[771.68 --> 772.08] Okay. |
[772.50 --> 774.76] Like having your first name and middle name as your Facebook name? |
[774.78 --> 775.30] No, no. |
[775.40 --> 776.72] I mean people getting married. |
[777.10 --> 777.44] Oh, okay. |
[777.48 --> 784.28] So this is kind of embarrassing, but I was going through my friends on Facebook and I was like, who are these people? |
[786.48 --> 788.44] And the people, shut up. |
[788.44 --> 796.04] The people I was confused about were mostly women from my high school class that are now married. |
[796.46 --> 801.34] And I was like, that kind of looks all, oh, okay. |
[802.10 --> 804.00] That makes sense. |
[804.68 --> 813.12] And then, like, a kid that I went to elementary school with, he changed his name from, like, his stepdad's name, |
[813.12 --> 818.82] which was his last name for some reason, I'm not quite sure how that worked, to his birth father's name. |
[819.22 --> 819.24] Oh. |
[819.42 --> 823.32] So I was like, oh, you're, whatever your name is, Barry now. |
[824.86 --> 825.54] That's cool. |
[825.78 --> 827.18] Wouldn't have known that if I hadn't already had your platform. |
[827.18 --> 827.78] From Barry to Barry? |
[828.04 --> 828.88] V-E to B-A? |
[829.92 --> 830.32] No. |
[830.76 --> 831.54] That would be tough. |
[831.64 --> 836.04] But anyway, so what's good about Facebook is that it's a digital phone book. |
[836.24 --> 838.18] It's, because real phone books aren't a thing anymore. |
[838.18 --> 843.46] But the bad thing about it, and the thing that has always made me both a little bit uncomfortable |
[843.46 --> 848.08] and just feel like it's a little bit unnecessary, is that while I am technically a millennial, |
[848.64 --> 854.48] I share sort of updates about my life as a job. |
[854.84 --> 857.12] I have never done it for leisure, not once. |
[857.70 --> 860.84] When I created a Facebook account, it was because I needed to for work. |
[860.90 --> 863.52] When I created a Twitter account, it was because I had to for work. |
[863.52 --> 867.34] And when I created a YouTube account, it was because I had to for work. |
[867.34 --> 868.50] Same with Twitch, for that matter. |
[870.54 --> 873.48] So I just straight up, like, don't really get it. |
[873.88 --> 878.12] And I've never really felt, it's never been because I feel super comfortable with it |
[878.12 --> 880.06] that I've shared a lot of detail about my life. |
[880.50 --> 886.20] Like, some of you have probably noticed that I, now that, especially now that the Linus |
[886.20 --> 892.68] Tech Twitter account is managed by the entire team, I post almost nothing really personal |
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