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[1530.42 --> 1532.12] How old was I?
[1532.26 --> 1534.56] It was supposed to be about 16 years ago, but I'm still mad.
[1535.04 --> 1542.40] I ended up arguing with Sapphire on the phone, and AMD for that matter, about a Radeon 9600
[1542.40 --> 1543.22] that I bought.
[1544.00 --> 1546.16] So that should give you guys some idea of...
[1546.16 --> 1547.42] Well, I told you how long ago it was.
[1547.46 --> 1550.16] Anyway, the point is, it was a Radeon 9600.
[1550.70 --> 1553.92] And it came with a 64-bit...
[1553.92 --> 1555.14] I still remember to this day.
[1555.20 --> 1559.78] It came with a 64-bit memory bus instead of a 128-bit bus.
[1560.32 --> 1564.92] And back then, that was a big deal.
[1564.92 --> 1571.18] And compared to a 1030, a 960 was still sort of a somewhat respectable card.
[1571.54 --> 1573.06] Like, if you wanted to play...
[1573.06 --> 1577.60] I don't remember if this is sort of era appropriate, but I think, like, Sims would have been the
[1577.60 --> 1579.52] kind of thing that my sister might have wanted to run on it.
[1579.98 --> 1582.28] That would have made a significant difference.
[1582.28 --> 1589.54] And the reason I was mad was that not only was it not marked clearly anywhere on the box what the
[1589.54 --> 1595.38] difference in spec was between this card and the other one, the only place anywhere that I could find
[1595.38 --> 1599.78] this information was on Sapphire's website, but not their North American one.
[1599.98 --> 1601.30] It was on their European one.
[1601.76 --> 1602.18] Wow.
[1602.18 --> 1609.60] So I had to go all the way out of my own territory online in order to find out that this card was
[1609.60 --> 1610.62] not the same thing.
[1610.64 --> 1612.90] And it was, like, hidden, like, way down somewhere.
[1613.20 --> 1619.74] And this was at a time when manufacturers were often doing, like, SE editions of cards,
[1620.26 --> 1622.02] special edition or second edition.
[1622.44 --> 1625.96] But what the community nicknamed these things was slow edition because a lot of the time they
[1625.96 --> 1627.70] were cut down because of yields.
[1628.20 --> 1630.70] So, like, they had a bunch of scrap chips that they had to do something with.
[1630.70 --> 1634.82] So they'd, like, you know, cut down the memory bus or they'd do something else like that.
[1635.72 --> 1637.84] And that's a point that people are bringing up this time.
[1638.06 --> 1641.14] You know, what's the difference between this and, like, 1080 Ti?
[1641.86 --> 1642.88] It's just...
[1642.88 --> 1647.54] But the thing is, they don't put these other letters, these qualifiers, front and center
[1647.54 --> 1648.78] on the box in this case.
[1649.02 --> 1649.20] No.
[1649.30 --> 1651.16] This is way down the line in the product description.
[1651.16 --> 1653.50] It's a description of the memory.
[1653.68 --> 1655.48] It's not up front right beside the 1080.
[1656.02 --> 1660.14] They do put D4 in the description, but it's not a 1080 D4.
[1660.14 --> 1662.32] It's way, way, way, way down there.
[1662.76 --> 1664.50] So I find it really frustrating.
[1664.84 --> 1671.62] But NVIDIA seems to be, rather than having taken our feedback and a lot of other members
[1671.62 --> 1679.00] of the press feedback to heart about the 1060 3GB, which is more than just a 1060 with 3GB of RAM,
[1679.06 --> 1679.94] or I should say less.
[1680.12 --> 1681.90] It's actually slower as well.
[1681.90 --> 1687.46] They seem to have taken all the feedback that we gave them and crumpled it up and thrown
[1687.46 --> 1690.82] it in a fire because here they are doing it again, and it's only been a few months.
[1691.14 --> 1695.88] So what I worry about is that if we don't call them out on this, it's going to be something
[1695.88 --> 1697.90] that we're going to continue to see happen.
[1697.90 --> 1700.56] And that's not what we need.
[1700.82 --> 1702.36] You don't want to have to walk...
[1702.36 --> 1709.80] Remember, guys, this is the same company that brought you Greenlight, that brought you a
[1709.80 --> 1715.04] program that restricted their partner's abilities to pre-overclock their cards to differentiate
[1715.04 --> 1715.58] them.
[1717.34 --> 1718.72] Supposedly to reduce confusion.
[1718.86 --> 1721.36] That's why they have all these branding initiatives and stuff like that.
[1722.26 --> 1724.40] Oh, not to mention GeForce Partner Program.
[1724.46 --> 1725.54] We want to reduce confusion.
[1725.54 --> 1730.10] Do you want to reduce confusion or do you just want the right type of confusion?
[1730.66 --> 1732.68] So it's good for their business interests.
[1732.80 --> 1733.64] So it does matter.
[1734.04 --> 1736.16] A lot of people won't notice anyway or won't know.
[1736.48 --> 1738.88] So just let it kind of slip by.
[1740.60 --> 1741.38] This is great.
[1742.52 --> 1745.42] Sparkleman55 says, rip, I got the notification a half hour late.
[1745.68 --> 1747.30] No, no, we were just a half hour late.
[1748.58 --> 1750.00] Unless you just got it now.
[1751.20 --> 1752.36] Yeah, we're the ones ripped.
[1752.36 --> 1757.14] So I guess I don't really have a ton more to add.
[1757.58 --> 1759.22] I mean, this is really frustrating.
[1759.46 --> 1760.60] You've got a note in here.
[1760.66 --> 1763.34] Some of the listed documentation does show two different core names.
[1763.74 --> 1766.42] GP108300 versus GP108310.
[1768.00 --> 1769.86] But the whole thing is very confusing.
[1769.86 --> 1774.62] Oh, this was what I ended up yelling at AMD about 16 years ago.
[1775.18 --> 1777.26] AMD on their website.
[1777.66 --> 1780.44] Because remember, this was not an AMD card technically.
[1780.56 --> 1781.82] It was a Sapphire card.
[1782.36 --> 1784.38] As if AMD didn't send them the frigging chips.
[1785.08 --> 1790.80] AMD's own website had no mention whatsoever of a 64-bit memory bus variant of this card.
[1790.80 --> 1793.42] So in this case, once again...
[1793.42 --> 1794.54] Just washing their hands of it.
[1794.72 --> 1800.30] The official NVIDIA GeForce GT 1030 product page mentions nothing about this change.
[1800.30 --> 1812.94] So how can you advocate for less consumer confusion when you're running around enabling your partners to release products,
[1813.00 --> 1816.08] even if you're technically not your product or whatever the defense would be?
[1816.42 --> 1822.02] How can you be running around enabling partners to create products based on your products that you don't even list on your website?
[1822.02 --> 1826.82] Especially going forward when those partners are part of the GeForce partner program.
[1826.82 --> 1832.30] Very, very frustrating.
[1833.22 --> 1833.80] Alright.
[1834.34 --> 1837.08] Do you also feel passionately about this Spectre business?
[1837.88 --> 1841.04] I can't imagine that you feel as passionate about it.
[1843.12 --> 1848.96] What I really feel passionate about is eating Savage Jerky.
[1848.96 --> 1850.40] I knew...
[1850.40 --> 1854.52] In my head I was like, he wouldn't.
[1855.26 --> 1856.24] He couldn't.
[1856.82 --> 1857.70] God damn it.
[1857.70 --> 1858.38] He did.
[1859.66 --> 1865.04] Savage Jerky is a tasty snack that's not bad for you.
[1865.10 --> 1867.72] It's made with the best ingredients without nitrates or preservatives.