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[329.04 --> 330.28] How did you not see that?
[330.28 --> 333.34] What exactly is the purpose?
[333.50 --> 335.06] I wish I could swear right now.
[335.14 --> 336.32] We don't really swear on this show.
[336.32 --> 343.10] But what is the purpose of this button if it doesn't check for updates?
[344.10 --> 345.84] Well, now they made it work too good.
[346.16 --> 351.72] So according to Microsoft, Windows 10 has B, C, and D updates.
[351.72 --> 353.70] And each is released once per month.
[353.84 --> 361.36] These quality updates are smaller than feature updates like the October 2018 update that came with all kinds of great features.
[361.44 --> 362.20] Oh, it was wonderful.
[362.20 --> 365.92] Which are meant to be released once every six months, usually in the spring and fall.
[366.16 --> 368.16] We're kind of into winter now, though.
[368.28 --> 369.08] Anyway, it doesn't matter.
[369.20 --> 373.92] So B is the biggest and comes out on Patch Tuesday, the second Tuesday of the month.
[373.92 --> 384.48] These are the most important updates featuring new security fixes, and they contain previously released security fixes from prior B updates and previously released bug fixes from prior C and D updates.
[385.12 --> 388.46] Windows Update doesn't automatically install C and D updates on most PCs.
[388.60 --> 391.82] However, it does when you check for updates.
[393.02 --> 393.44] Maybe.
[394.04 --> 398.06] According to a recent Microsoft blog post, this makes you a seeker.
[398.06 --> 400.32] I'm a Quidditch player, sucker.
[400.32 --> 402.58] Just because you're like, hey, I should have my computer.
[404.04 --> 406.22] You weren't going to try to ignore it.
[406.60 --> 407.26] You failed.
[407.70 --> 408.50] That was pretty good.
[408.86 --> 409.76] You failed.
[409.88 --> 419.10] Okay, in the most recent, which I think is still only on Flowplane, the most recent PC Manufacturer's Investigation video, that joke line, and then they put in the credits for the joke.
[419.54 --> 420.52] What was the joke line?
[420.58 --> 421.72] I don't even remember this.
[421.80 --> 424.56] I don't remember what you said, but you said something super punny.
[424.72 --> 425.14] Oh, okay.
[425.26 --> 426.36] Super aggressively punny.
[426.36 --> 429.88] And they paused the whole video and ran credits as if it was over.
[430.28 --> 433.08] And it was like, joke writer, Linus.
[433.96 --> 435.34] Joke delivery, Linus.
[435.42 --> 435.96] All this kind of stuff.
[436.04 --> 438.32] And then joke support, Ivan, or something.
[438.44 --> 439.16] It was wonderful.
[439.28 --> 439.84] I really enjoyed that.
[439.88 --> 443.56] I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that must have been edited by Pella.
[445.54 --> 449.82] That is A plus, 1,000% his sense of humor.
[450.42 --> 451.36] Also, I love it.
[451.44 --> 452.50] I enjoyed it a lot.
[452.80 --> 454.60] Anyways, back on topic.
[455.10 --> 455.80] The seeker thing.
[455.80 --> 467.18] So literally just wanting your computer to be up to date and secured and more stable, which is generally what you would hope that means, you get labeled as a seeker, which is basically a beta testing program.
[467.40 --> 467.78] Like, what?
[467.94 --> 468.28] No.
[469.72 --> 470.02] No.
[470.02 --> 470.94] So wait.
[470.94 --> 470.96] So wait.
[470.96 --> 476.76] A beta testing program for B updates taking place on stable PCs.
[476.98 --> 484.32] They have repeatedly said only advanced users should click the check for updates button?
[484.32 --> 491.38] Except what everyone has trained everyone to do forever is like when you're doing maintenance, you just click the check for updates button.
[491.38 --> 491.56] You check for updates.
[491.76 --> 492.20] So what?
[492.24 --> 500.34] If I click this on like one of the servers because I'm performing server maintenance on the weekend and I want updates because it's time to reboot them?
[500.48 --> 500.74] Nope.
[501.20 --> 501.56] No.
[501.78 --> 503.34] Now I'm an advanced user.
[503.56 --> 503.88] Yes.
[504.52 --> 505.24] Well, you are.
[505.24 --> 508.54] But like, you shouldn't be automatically updated.
[508.54 --> 509.56] Oh, this is fun.
[509.56 --> 517.70] So this could explain why Microsoft generated so much hate within the tech community specifically.
[518.06 --> 523.98] Like, it seemed like there was a disproportional response to the whole deleting files thing.
[523.98 --> 533.48] Because normally that kind of thing can happen, but it'll be among users who will like complain to their sister over dinner that like, I'm a stupid laptop.
[533.60 --> 534.24] My files are gone.
[534.30 --> 538.02] But it was like enthusiasts shrieking about it.
[538.26 --> 546.48] So apparently the people who had their files deleted by the faulty October update were users who clicked the check for updates button.
[546.80 --> 547.40] That's insane.
[548.30 --> 549.18] It's actually insane.
[549.36 --> 549.68] Wow.
[549.68 --> 557.82] So that could have easily happened to me because I was like, oh, yeah, you know, I haven't really installed any updates, blah, blah, blah lately.
[557.82 --> 561.46] But I do click that button when I'm ready to install an update.
[561.82 --> 562.68] You know what's interesting?
[563.14 --> 563.50] Fascinating.
[563.86 --> 567.44] I noticed, I haven't talked about this on WAN Show, I guess.
[567.58 --> 567.84] Have I?
[567.88 --> 568.44] I don't think so.
[568.62 --> 569.92] But I'm running Mint right now.
[569.96 --> 570.22] Yes.
[570.40 --> 571.26] You have talked about it.
[571.30 --> 572.10] Not on WAN Show.
[572.30 --> 572.76] Okay, yeah.
[572.76 --> 573.48] So I did know this.
[573.54 --> 574.80] So I'm running Mint right now.
[575.00 --> 575.70] I was running.
[575.92 --> 576.96] That's Linux, by the way.
[577.18 --> 577.38] Yeah.
[577.38 --> 578.28] For the uninitiated.
[578.44 --> 578.60] Yeah.
[578.60 --> 580.56] I was running 8.1 embedded systems.
[580.74 --> 581.04] I loved it.
[581.04 --> 581.50] I heard it's Mint.
[584.44 --> 585.44] I loved it.
[586.24 --> 589.30] But embedded systems, it's not automatically downloading updates.
[589.52 --> 591.40] I had it flagged and not automatically download updates.
[591.80 --> 596.84] What made it so I had to switch to Mint was I ran Windows updates and then my computer restarted.
[597.52 --> 599.06] Black screen, nothing worked.
[599.14 --> 601.04] I could see my mouse but couldn't do anything.

[329.04 --> 330.28] How did you not see that?

[330.28 --> 333.34] What exactly is the purpose?

[333.50 --> 335.06] I wish I could swear right now.

[335.14 --> 336.32] We don't really swear on this show.

[336.32 --> 343.10] But what is the purpose of this button if it doesn't check for updates?

[344.10 --> 345.84] Well, now they made it work too good.

[346.16 --> 351.72] So according to Microsoft, Windows 10 has B, C, and D updates.

[351.72 --> 353.70] And each is released once per month.

[353.84 --> 361.36] These quality updates are smaller than feature updates like the October 2018 update that came with all kinds of great features.

[361.44 --> 362.20] Oh, it was wonderful.

[362.20 --> 365.92] Which are meant to be released once every six months, usually in the spring and fall.

[366.16 --> 368.16] We're kind of into winter now, though.

[368.28 --> 369.08] Anyway, it doesn't matter.

[369.20 --> 373.92] So B is the biggest and comes out on Patch Tuesday, the second Tuesday of the month.

[373.92 --> 384.48] These are the most important updates featuring new security fixes, and they contain previously released security fixes from prior B updates and previously released bug fixes from prior C and D updates.

[385.12 --> 388.46] Windows Update doesn't automatically install C and D updates on most PCs.

[388.60 --> 391.82] However, it does when you check for updates.

[393.02 --> 393.44] Maybe.

[394.04 --> 398.06] According to a recent Microsoft blog post, this makes you a seeker.

[398.06 --> 400.32] I'm a Quidditch player, sucker.

[400.32 --> 402.58] Just because you're like, hey, I should have my computer.

[404.04 --> 406.22] You weren't going to try to ignore it.

[406.60 --> 407.26] You failed.

[407.70 --> 408.50] That was pretty good.

[408.86 --> 409.76] You failed.

[409.88 --> 419.10] Okay, in the most recent, which I think is still only on Flowplane, the most recent PC Manufacturer's Investigation video, that joke line, and then they put in the credits for the joke.

[419.54 --> 420.52] What was the joke line?

[420.58 --> 421.72] I don't even remember this.

[421.80 --> 424.56] I don't remember what you said, but you said something super punny.

[424.72 --> 425.14] Oh, okay.

[425.26 --> 426.36] Super aggressively punny.

[426.36 --> 429.88] And they paused the whole video and ran credits as if it was over.

[430.28 --> 433.08] And it was like, joke writer, Linus.

[433.96 --> 435.34] Joke delivery, Linus.

[435.42 --> 435.96] All this kind of stuff.

[436.04 --> 438.32] And then joke support, Ivan, or something.

[438.44 --> 439.16] It was wonderful.

[439.28 --> 439.84] I really enjoyed that.

[439.88 --> 443.56] I can say beyond a shadow of a doubt, that must have been edited by Pella.

[445.54 --> 449.82] That is A plus, 1,000% his sense of humor.

[450.42 --> 451.36] Also, I love it.

[451.44 --> 452.50] I enjoyed it a lot.

[452.80 --> 454.60] Anyways, back on topic.

[455.10 --> 455.80] The seeker thing.

[455.80 --> 467.18] So literally just wanting your computer to be up to date and secured and more stable, which is generally what you would hope that means, you get labeled as a seeker, which is basically a beta testing program.

[467.40 --> 467.78] Like, what?

[467.94 --> 468.28] No.

[469.72 --> 470.02] No.

[470.02 --> 470.94] So wait.

[470.94 --> 470.96] So wait.

[470.96 --> 476.76] A beta testing program for B updates taking place on stable PCs.

[476.98 --> 484.32] They have repeatedly said only advanced users should click the check for updates button?

[484.32 --> 491.38] Except what everyone has trained everyone to do forever is like when you're doing maintenance, you just click the check for updates button.

[491.38 --> 491.56] You check for updates.

[491.76 --> 492.20] So what?

[492.24 --> 500.34] If I click this on like one of the servers because I'm performing server maintenance on the weekend and I want updates because it's time to reboot them?

[500.48 --> 500.74] Nope.

[501.20 --> 501.56] No.

[501.78 --> 503.34] Now I'm an advanced user.

[503.56 --> 503.88] Yes.

[504.52 --> 505.24] Well, you are.

[505.24 --> 508.54] But like, you shouldn't be automatically updated.

[508.54 --> 509.56] Oh, this is fun.

[509.56 --> 517.70] So this could explain why Microsoft generated so much hate within the tech community specifically.

[518.06 --> 523.98] Like, it seemed like there was a disproportional response to the whole deleting files thing.

[523.98 --> 533.48] Because normally that kind of thing can happen, but it'll be among users who will like complain to their sister over dinner that like, I'm a stupid laptop.

[533.60 --> 534.24] My files are gone.

[534.30 --> 538.02] But it was like enthusiasts shrieking about it.

[538.26 --> 546.48] So apparently the people who had their files deleted by the faulty October update were users who clicked the check for updates button.

[546.80 --> 547.40] That's insane.

[548.30 --> 549.18] It's actually insane.

[549.36 --> 549.68] Wow.

[549.68 --> 557.82] So that could have easily happened to me because I was like, oh, yeah, you know, I haven't really installed any updates, blah, blah, blah lately.

[557.82 --> 561.46] But I do click that button when I'm ready to install an update.

[561.82 --> 562.68] You know what's interesting?

[563.14 --> 563.50] Fascinating.

[563.86 --> 567.44] I noticed, I haven't talked about this on WAN Show, I guess.

[567.58 --> 567.84] Have I?

[567.88 --> 568.44] I don't think so.

[568.62 --> 569.92] But I'm running Mint right now.

[569.96 --> 570.22] Yes.

[570.40 --> 571.26] You have talked about it.

[571.30 --> 572.10] Not on WAN Show.

[572.30 --> 572.76] Okay, yeah.

[572.76 --> 573.48] So I did know this.

[573.54 --> 574.80] So I'm running Mint right now.

[575.00 --> 575.70] I was running.

[575.92 --> 576.96] That's Linux, by the way.

[577.18 --> 577.38] Yeah.

[577.38 --> 578.28] For the uninitiated.

[578.44 --> 578.60] Yeah.

[578.60 --> 580.56] I was running 8.1 embedded systems.

[580.74 --> 581.04] I loved it.

[581.04 --> 581.50] I heard it's Mint.

[584.44 --> 585.44] I loved it.

[586.24 --> 589.30] But embedded systems, it's not automatically downloading updates.

[589.52 --> 591.40] I had it flagged and not automatically download updates.

[591.80 --> 596.84] What made it so I had to switch to Mint was I ran Windows updates and then my computer restarted.

[597.52 --> 599.06] Black screen, nothing worked.

[599.14 --> 601.04] I could see my mouse but couldn't do anything.