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[695.90 --> 696.54] Or you mean in general? |
[696.88 --> 698.08] Yeah, no, just in general. |
[698.08 --> 701.50] The last time we saw a really big generational improvement. |
[701.50 --> 707.50] With that said, Conroe to Intel's integrated memory controller was a pretty big leap too |
[707.50 --> 710.54] because we went, no, because they introduced quad core first. |
[711.42 --> 712.10] Hard to say. |
[712.36 --> 715.10] In terms of, I know it wasn't in a lot of different ways, |
[715.34 --> 720.18] but in terms of like customer understanding and usability, |
[720.62 --> 724.80] which is a weird thing largely due to naming, but Sandy Bridge? |
[725.24 --> 726.00] You think so? |
[726.00 --> 728.06] I think a lot of people kind of got it more. |
[729.48 --> 729.80] Okay. |
[730.00 --> 730.92] So, you know what? |
[730.96 --> 731.96] I'm going to pick my moment. |
[732.40 --> 740.62] For me, the biggest CPU improvement in performance was not actually Barton to Clawhammer. |
[741.02 --> 744.00] For me, the biggest difference I saw was from... |
[744.58 --> 747.66] Yeah, again, my point is not just performance stuff. |
[747.66 --> 751.50] Like, I felt like the community, like paying attention to forums and stuff like that, |
[751.56 --> 754.94] I felt like people understood more with that one |
[754.94 --> 758.52] because the product naming scheme, I think, made more sense for a lot of people. |
[758.52 --> 763.06] So, I think it was Winchester was the last single core. |
[763.80 --> 765.18] No, Venice might have been. |
[765.58 --> 766.18] San Diego? |
[766.42 --> 767.02] Oh, crap. |
[767.10 --> 767.84] Which one was it? |
[768.82 --> 770.60] Athlon 64 models. |
[773.00 --> 774.32] Apparently something wrong with the camera. |
[774.70 --> 776.14] Something wrong with me. |
[776.14 --> 777.14] Hello. |
[777.46 --> 777.88] Yep, okay. |
[779.26 --> 780.34] The camera's tilted? |
[780.60 --> 780.74] What? |
[783.28 --> 783.92] Yeah, okay. |
[784.10 --> 784.46] So, I... |
[784.46 --> 785.12] Oh, no, no. |
[785.20 --> 786.38] It's not centered. |
[787.32 --> 788.46] Yeah, the thing is... |
[788.46 --> 788.96] Yeah, whatever. |
[789.18 --> 789.84] It doesn't matter. |
[790.12 --> 790.16] Yeah. |
[790.22 --> 791.04] Yeah, I'm over it. |
[792.10 --> 796.94] Also, there's some moiré in your sweater if we want to get really upset about little |
[796.94 --> 798.70] things that we don't worry about on the LAN show. |
[798.70 --> 805.16] So, for me, the big one was going from single core Athlon 64 to, I think it was the Toledo |
[805.16 --> 809.56] core, going to dual core Athlon 64 because that was... |
[809.56 --> 811.32] It wasn't a big improvement for gaming. |
[811.76 --> 812.70] Because back then... |
[812.70 --> 812.72] People are really upset. |
[812.72 --> 813.26] The camera's tilted. |
[813.48 --> 813.88] What are they? |
[814.58 --> 814.94] Sorry. |
[815.04 --> 815.54] Just keep going. |
[815.66 --> 816.02] I'll be back. |
[816.10 --> 816.96] I think I can see you. |
[816.96 --> 820.50] I can't do it myself. |
[820.68 --> 820.98] I'll be kidding. |
[821.56 --> 821.96] Okay. |
[823.10 --> 824.12] Oh, Max is here. |
[824.26 --> 825.64] Max is coming to save us. |
[826.34 --> 828.42] Because it wasn't a big improvement for gaming. |
[828.52 --> 834.78] You've got to remember that games did not benefit from dual core CPUs back in those days. |
[835.36 --> 839.78] But what it was was a huge improvement to the gaming experience if you had things running |
[839.78 --> 840.36] in the background. |
[840.80 --> 845.64] And it was a huge improvement to really the experience of doing anything at the same time. |
[845.70 --> 846.70] That was when multitasking... |
[846.70 --> 847.16] Yeah, yeah, yeah. |
[847.42 --> 848.48] ...really happened for me. |
[849.62 --> 853.22] And that's a really big deal, especially in terms of user experience. |
[853.32 --> 853.48] Yeah. |
[853.94 --> 854.14] Yeah. |
[854.58 --> 855.22] And it's like... |
[855.22 --> 855.98] It's the same way... |
[855.98 --> 860.54] And you know, the funny thing is, I remember arguing on forums about dual core back in the |
[860.54 --> 869.10] day because people who didn't see the bigger picture, who just saw the benchmarks on whatever |
[869.10 --> 873.54] the site they preferred was and saw that in all their favorite games, it didn't make a difference, |
[873.54 --> 878.92] those people would come out and say, you're paying literally twice as much for literally |
[878.92 --> 881.90] twice as many CPU cores and it doesn't make any difference. |
[882.82 --> 888.44] And it's the same argument that I would have with people when SSDs were first starting to |
[888.44 --> 889.10] gain popularity. |
[889.64 --> 894.76] Where they'd go, well, the benchmarks don't indicate a significant difference in performance |
[894.76 --> 899.82] other than boot time and they're very low capacity. |
[899.82 --> 900.90] But it feels amazing. |
[901.02 --> 902.64] But it feels really different. |
[902.86 --> 902.88] Yeah. |
[902.88 --> 903.92] And that's what it was like then. |
[904.02 --> 904.18] Yeah. |
[904.18 --> 910.14] And honestly, since the first good SSDs, so like back when Intel launched the X25M, I |
[910.14 --> 912.36] haven't really had that experience again. |
[913.10 --> 914.10] What was the first... |
[914.10 --> 916.28] I'm not going to Google, I'll just ask you, you probably know. |
[916.32 --> 920.28] What was the first generation that Intel introduced K for their unlockable SKUs? |
[920.92 --> 922.26] I believe it was the 2600K. |
[922.40 --> 922.58] Yeah. |
[922.92 --> 923.10] Yeah. |
[923.10 --> 924.32] So this is kind of what I'm talking about. |
[924.32 --> 926.12] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. |
[926.16 --> 927.26] There was an 875K. |
[927.98 --> 928.40] Was there? |
[928.40 --> 928.60] Yes. |
[929.04 --> 933.40] And back then, so the 875K was... |
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