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[1396.54 --> 1397.30] and that takes
[1397.30 --> 1397.48] like
[1397.48 --> 1398.08] Dell TV
[1398.08 --> 1398.94] that takes
[1398.94 --> 1400.02] two to three weeks
[1400.02 --> 1400.90] at best
[1400.90 --> 1401.22] yeah
[1401.22 --> 1402.46] what happens
[1402.46 --> 1404.44] when these OEMs
[1404.44 --> 1405.40] are obligated to do
[1405.40 --> 1406.44] four security updates
[1406.44 --> 1406.78] a year
[1406.78 --> 1407.62] the last one
[1407.62 --> 1408.08] that comes out
[1408.08 --> 1408.70] for that year
[1408.70 --> 1409.58] gets delayed
[1409.58 --> 1410.38] because the carrier
[1410.38 --> 1411.40] has to spend a month
[1411.40 --> 1412.06] working on it
[1412.06 --> 1413.62] reaches the contract
[1413.62 --> 1414.42] with Google
[1414.42 --> 1416.80] and then they get reprimanded
[1416.80 --> 1417.48] like what's gonna happen
[1417.48 --> 1418.24] it looks like
[1418.24 --> 1419.10] what could happen
[1419.10 --> 1419.88] is if they fail
[1419.88 --> 1420.94] to keep the devices updated
[1420.94 --> 1421.94] Google could withhold
[1421.94 --> 1422.46] approval
[1422.46 --> 1423.62] for new devices
[1423.62 --> 1424.56] so they could like
[1424.56 --> 1425.24] play the game
[1425.24 --> 1426.02] where they could be like
[1426.02 --> 1426.48] okay we know
[1426.48 --> 1428.26] we're really busy
[1428.26 --> 1429.02] you know
[1429.02 --> 1429.90] working on something
[1429.90 --> 1430.52] right now
[1430.52 --> 1431.72] we don't have anything
[1431.72 --> 1432.44] new to launch
[1432.44 --> 1433.16] at the moment
[1433.16 --> 1434.04] so we can
[1434.04 --> 1435.50] fall behind
[1435.50 --> 1437.22] and then we'll like
[1437.22 --> 1438.20] get it dealt with later
[1438.20 --> 1438.92] when we need to
[1438.92 --> 1439.50] release something
[1439.50 --> 1439.92] but I
[1439.92 --> 1443.72] I think the big thing
[1443.72 --> 1444.18] for me
[1444.18 --> 1444.94] is
[1444.94 --> 1446.80] I have yet to see
[1446.80 --> 1447.70] any evidence
[1447.70 --> 1448.46] that Google
[1448.46 --> 1449.62] has the stones
[1449.62 --> 1451.64] to back this up
[1451.64 --> 1454.36] because they're still
[1454.36 --> 1455.96] allowing carrier nonsense
[1455.96 --> 1458.16] that as far as I can tell
[1458.16 --> 1459.24] Apple shut down
[1459.24 --> 1460.26] ages ago
[1460.26 --> 1460.72] that's correct
[1460.72 --> 1461.72] like there's
[1461.72 --> 1463.62] I think you just cited
[1463.62 --> 1464.22] one from LG
[1464.22 --> 1464.68] but there's
[1464.68 --> 1465.80] or from a carrier
[1465.80 --> 1466.16] but there's
[1466.16 --> 1466.90] AT&T
[1466.90 --> 1468.08] like OneDrive
[1468.08 --> 1468.96] type stuff
[1468.96 --> 1470.00] AT&T has
[1470.00 --> 1471.20] so much
[1471.20 --> 1471.76] so does Verizon
[1471.76 --> 1472.68] but they're not
[1472.68 --> 1473.48] on Apple phones
[1473.48 --> 1473.82] at all
[1473.82 --> 1474.14] yeah
[1474.14 --> 1475.02] at all
[1475.02 --> 1475.54] so do you think
[1475.54 --> 1476.18] that if it becomes
[1476.18 --> 1476.68] a problem
[1476.68 --> 1477.58] where the carriers
[1477.58 --> 1478.14] are the limiting
[1478.14 --> 1478.70] factor here
[1478.70 --> 1479.16] that are making
[1479.16 --> 1480.12] the OEMs late
[1480.12 --> 1481.82] with the contractually
[1481.82 --> 1483.10] obligated updates
[1483.10 --> 1484.30] then maybe Google
[1484.30 --> 1486.06] or those OEMs
[1486.06 --> 1487.32] will just crack down
[1487.32 --> 1487.56] and be like
[1487.56 --> 1488.20] there's no more
[1488.20 --> 1488.96] carrier app
[1488.96 --> 1490.06] baloney at all
[1490.06 --> 1490.80] we're not doing it
[1490.80 --> 1491.46] I don't know
[1491.46 --> 1492.24] how they'd pull it off
[1492.24 --> 1492.92] because the thing