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[2408.82 --> 2413.06] round so we are really on the verge of |
[2413.06 --> 2416.24] making platforms responsible not just |
[2416.24 --> 2419.56] responsible but also liable for the |
[2419.56 --> 2422.32] content that is on their websites to put |
[2422.32 --> 2425.76] this in context now it does specify that |
[2425.76 --> 2428.04] it's major platforms or whatever the case |
[2428.04 --> 2433.58] may be but there's i major platforms are kind of |
[2433.58 --> 2436.48] important i it's probably quantified i don't |
[2436.48 --> 2438.38] know exactly how they're quantifying it but i |
[2438.38 --> 2440.38] still think it's important because flow plane's |
[2440.38 --> 2444.60] pretty major i mean pretty big deal this has the |
[2444.60 --> 2447.42] potential to impact even something like linus |
[2447.42 --> 2450.38] tech tips dot com forum like it was a number of |
[2450.38 --> 2453.08] years ago now but they're like there are things that |
[2453.08 --> 2456.46] already work like this so back when um back when we were |
[2456.46 --> 2459.94] still using adsense for linus tech tips dot com not |
[2459.94 --> 2462.46] that it like ever made a ton of money or anything so it |
[2462.46 --> 2465.04] wasn't a big deal but we had a post your desktop |
[2465.04 --> 2469.30] wallpaper thread that was like many many dozens and |
[2469.30 --> 2472.34] dozens i think it was hundreds of pages long like |
[2472.34 --> 2473.64] because everyone would just post their desktop |
[2473.64 --> 2477.74] wallpapers and some people's desktop wallpapers |
[2477.74 --> 2482.92] are their home not their work desktop because they |
[2482.92 --> 2486.18] wouldn't be safe for work and so we ended up with some |
[2486.18 --> 2489.90] pretty racy images on the forum and quite frankly like |
[2489.90 --> 2492.80] post your desktop wallpaper threads are the kind of |
[2492.80 --> 2495.68] thing that doesn't typically get moderated very actively |
[2495.68 --> 2500.16] so what happened was we ended up with some some content on |
[2500.16 --> 2504.76] the website that google deemed to be contrary to their |
[2504.76 --> 2508.04] restrictions for google adsense and they cut us off and they |
[2508.04 --> 2511.78] said you guys need to get your site back in line before we |
[2511.78 --> 2514.68] will turn it back on and you guys are responsible for scouring |
[2514.68 --> 2516.74] your website making sure there's nothing on it we kind of went |
[2516.74 --> 2522.02] we have literally thousands of posts a day of user generated |
[2522.02 --> 2526.14] content like this is not feasible to actually filter through |
[2526.14 --> 2529.24] every freaking post and make sure that we don't have any hate |
[2529.24 --> 2534.04] speech or any nudity or any graphic violence or whatever the |
[2534.04 --> 2536.78] case may be like we do our best but we rely on our community to flag |
[2536.78 --> 2539.80] things and a lot of the time the community will go like that's not a |
[2539.80 --> 2542.74] big deal and google will go whoa holy crap that's terrible |
[2542.74 --> 2547.68] so i guess what i'm trying to say is that it's unlikely that something like |
[2547.68 --> 2551.56] linus tech tips forum would actually be affected by article 13 because it's |
[2551.56 --> 2554.10] pretty small fish and so would something like float plane be |
[2554.10 --> 2558.88] but the problem is that everything small if it's good |
[2558.88 --> 2565.96] will grow and this situation where the platform has to be responsible |
[2565.96 --> 2568.94] ultimately we got our adsense revoked and we never got it back in case you |
[2568.94 --> 2570.30] guys are wondering how that story ends |
[2570.30 --> 2577.16] this situation is ultimately untenable because with the amount of user |
[2577.16 --> 2581.74] generated content that someone like a youtube or facebook or even linus |
[2581.74 --> 2588.30] tech tips dot com forum is receiving you would have to hire so many staff just to |
[2588.30 --> 2594.82] sit with like their eyeballs their their eyelids stapled to the tops and |
[2594.82 --> 2599.36] bottoms of their eyes staring at their screens watching it come in the number of |
[2599.36 --> 2603.40] people you'd have to pay to do that would be it would be unmanageable you would |
[2603.40 --> 2609.08] never be able to have an online platform that can just accept any user uploaded |
[2609.08 --> 2614.40] content willy-nilly that's what i'm trying to say is that even though we might |
[2614.40 --> 2619.66] not be affected by this in terms of the platforms that we run we have been in this |
[2619.66 --> 2627.60] situation and it's not feasible so the quote from this blog post yes she |
[2627.60 --> 2632.88] says it would be too risky for platforms to host content from smaller original |
[2632.88 --> 2636.82] content creators because the platform would now be directly liable for that |
[2636.82 --> 2642.16] content the proposal could force platforms like youtube to allow only |
[2642.16 --> 2647.04] content from a small number of large companies so basically what she's saying |
[2647.04 --> 2651.22] and so you're basically going back to cable she clarifies things further later |
[2651.22 --> 2655.56] like i think uh she's saying like there's possibilities that they could |
[2655.56 --> 2660.76] prevent eu users from accessing non-eu content or they could uh prevent |
[2660.76 --> 2665.70] like like there's there's ways that maybe they could geofence it or whatever the |
[2665.70 --> 2670.04] case may be but but ultimately yeah it's like going back to the stone age like |
[2670.04 --> 2675.24] we've had youtube the way it is user generated content video content like it's |
[2675.24 --> 2680.82] amazing for over 10 years now and to go back to not being able to just |
[2680.82 --> 2685.62] have anyone upload any stupid dog video and maybe go viral and maybe you know make a |
[2685.62 --> 2690.32] couple thousand bucks or whatever like to take away that or upload a video of them |
[2690.32 --> 2694.16] reviewing a laptop in their kitchen then maybe one day employ 22 people and |
[2694.16 --> 2702.14] so that's that's something that really upsets me is that there's a lot more to youtube now than just |
[2702.14 --> 2708.16] the user generated content even because we i sincerely doubt would be big enough to qualify |
[2708.16 --> 2713.86] as a small number of large companies there's just no way like they couldn't possibly manage |
[2713.86 --> 2719.36] everyone our size on the platform i don't think it makes any sense because remember guys we're not |
[2719.36 --> 2725.28] like monitoring video content is not the same as even something like a forum where you can kind of |
[2725.28 --> 2731.76] skim images yeah it looks fine you have to watch the video it's nice you can't really just depend on the |
[2731.76 --> 2738.06] machines to do this and you can't there's no way even google is basically admitting we can't do it |
[2738.06 --> 2744.22] and if they can't do it i don't think anyone else is in a position to go say with 100 confidence |
[2744.22 --> 2750.12] that they'd be comfortable with it so so this could affect us in a huge way and it's not just |
[2750.12 --> 2757.72] me personally but the youtube ecosystem props up hundreds thousands tens of thousands hundreds of |
[2757.72 --> 2764.42] thousands of people's actual livelihoods now like it's not just the indie youtubers who are who are |
[2764.42 --> 2768.86] who have managed to go independent and managed to support themselves but there are reasonable |
[2768.86 --> 2775.90] sized enterprises like again so we employ between linus media group and floatplane 26 or 27 people |
[2775.90 --> 2782.04] like it's at the point now where i've lost track which is you know really cool but also really scary |
[2782.04 --> 2787.66] because if all of a sudden we were cut off from our european viewership that could significantly |
[2787.66 --> 2793.20] impact us like we've taken a very conservative approach to growing our business and we've kept our |
[2793.20 --> 2797.82] costs under control my commitment to you right now james is even if all of our european viewership |
[2797.82 --> 2804.80] goes away tomorrow night your job will be safe and so will everyone's here but other people might be |
[2804.80 --> 2811.78] riding the razor's edge a little tighter or they might be in a really vulnerable state right now |
[2811.78 --> 2816.72] where maybe i think a great example would be tech deals tech deals as one of the guys on floatplane |
[2816.72 --> 2821.62] right now he sent a super chat earlier so tech deals just obtained a new studio space |
[2821.62 --> 2827.70] what if he took a 20 hit to his income right now yeah his most vulnerable time at his most |
[2827.70 --> 2833.02] vulnerable time like this was ultimately why linus media group went on vessel because we had just |
[2833.02 --> 2839.24] obtained a new space just hired some people we were we were looking to expand and then it was youtube |
[2839.24 --> 2844.26] that time but youtube released this memo saying that we weren't going to be able to monetize our |
[2844.26 --> 2847.58] videos through third parties the way that we'd been doing up till then we were like holy crap are they |
[2847.58 --> 2852.48] just going to like rip all our videos down what are we going to do um and i think there's going to be |
[2852.48 --> 2857.40] a lot of people panicking like this so should we be freaking out yes and then there's all these other |
[2857.40 --> 2862.66] applications like we just had a municipal election in vancouver or in the whole region what about all |
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