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[311.16 --> 311.82] So continue.
[312.16 --> 312.66] Ha ha ha.
[312.66 --> 318.22] Let's say you are Asus and you're, you sign up for the NVIDIA GPP.
[319.78 --> 328.98] If, if you wanted to sell an NVIDIA graphics card with your special like ROG branding,
[328.98 --> 329.74] because you're Asus.
[329.94 --> 330.10] Yeah.
[330.10 --> 332.68] You couldn't sell any other graphics cards with that branding.
[333.28 --> 338.36] I don't think that the, it stipulates that like, hey, your existing branding, ROG, you've
[338.36 --> 339.42] got to use that for NVIDIA.
[339.54 --> 342.82] I think it's up to Asus to decide what branding they use.
[342.92 --> 345.14] In theory, they could have been like, you know what, NVIDIA?
[345.86 --> 349.16] We're going to use our awesome ROG branding on the Radeon cards.
[349.16 --> 350.92] And we're going to make new branding for you.
[351.16 --> 355.70] That would, so from a company's perspective though, that would generally be bad because
[355.70 --> 358.12] the majority of the market is NVIDIA purchasers.
[358.24 --> 358.54] Exactly.
[358.54 --> 360.96] So you want to use your stronger brand for that because you'll make more money.
[361.02 --> 361.42] Exactly.
[361.58 --> 363.40] So they're totally cutting out.
[364.02 --> 365.86] And this mindshare really matters, right?
[365.88 --> 369.96] Because what they're forcing and what did actually occur when this program rolled out
[369.96 --> 374.38] was that you've got to make new product lines, new, you've got to fork your branding
[374.38 --> 374.66] basically.
[374.76 --> 375.68] And so they made Aries.
[376.64 --> 378.86] This comes at a considerable expense, by the way.
[378.86 --> 379.32] Oh yeah.
[379.54 --> 380.26] They've got to...
[380.26 --> 381.04] Branding, marketing.
[381.22 --> 382.08] They've got to design it.
[382.16 --> 384.36] They've got to iterate on that.
[384.44 --> 387.46] Then they've got to actually print boxes, get these boxes on the shelves.
[388.06 --> 391.34] And presumably at this point, these companies have already done all of that.
[391.70 --> 396.82] So now that the partner program is canceled, everybody's wondering if Aries is going to
[396.82 --> 399.00] continue to be a thing or if they're just going to switch back.
[399.44 --> 400.94] Because on the one hand, they have the sunk cost.
[401.08 --> 404.84] On the other hand, that brand means nothing to anybody yet.
[404.92 --> 406.92] So it's better to lean on your existing brand.
[406.92 --> 411.20] What we don't know is if NVIDIA has remunerated these companies.
[411.38 --> 415.96] Like let's say Aries has sunk millions on rebranding, or at least hundreds of thousands.
[416.58 --> 420.82] Is NVIDIA, like did the lawyer set up anything for this particular case where NVIDIA is going
[420.82 --> 421.24] to be like, okay.
[424.00 --> 426.38] So you guys probably didn't hear that.
[426.64 --> 427.80] What happened?
[427.80 --> 433.22] Was it the teleprompter glass?
[433.36 --> 434.40] I would go help him.
[437.70 --> 438.68] Are you all right?
[439.64 --> 440.88] Dennis is dead, everyone.
[441.36 --> 446.78] So a glass fell and shattered into a lot of pieces as we were able to hear from here.
[446.94 --> 448.64] I guess, yeah, you guys definitely can hear that.
[448.76 --> 451.08] We just heard shattering and then Dennis going, no!
[451.18 --> 452.50] Oh yeah, it was very audible.
[452.50 --> 452.90] Yeah.
[453.62 --> 454.42] Anyways, sorry.
[454.54 --> 455.72] We're going to continue here.
[455.80 --> 458.64] But yeah, it's unclear at this time whether brands are going to survive.
[459.14 --> 463.50] Not as in like whether ASUS will survive, but it's unclear whether or not Aries will survive,
[463.80 --> 467.94] whether or not NVIDIA will be compensating these brands for the work that they did related
[467.94 --> 468.64] to GPP.
[468.64 --> 476.56] In the like who knows how accurate it was leaks that we got, I didn't see any provisions
[476.56 --> 480.16] for that because I don't think NVIDIA was expecting to have to pull back out.
[481.20 --> 483.38] But I guess we didn't see the other side of the agreement either.
[483.70 --> 487.34] Well, it would have been what those particular companies' lawyers came up with.
[487.34 --> 487.72] Exactly.
[487.84 --> 488.88] So we didn't see the other side.
[488.94 --> 490.08] It wouldn't be in the original TOS.
[491.20 --> 494.96] Another interesting thing was how they framed their cancellation.
[494.96 --> 498.06] So we learned about it through a blog post that NVIDIA uploaded.
[498.54 --> 501.32] And they did not, they didn't like Facebook it.
[501.54 --> 502.82] They didn't go on an apology tour.
[502.92 --> 504.04] They didn't own what they did.
[504.04 --> 504.40] Oh no.
[504.62 --> 506.66] Instead, they framed it thusly.
[507.14 --> 515.46] You know, there's all these rumors and conjecture and myths, mistruths around about the NVIDIA
[515.46 --> 516.18] GPP.
[516.18 --> 524.40] So rather than spending our energy battling misinformation, we're just going to cancel
[524.40 --> 529.20] the program so we can focus on what's important, like building the new technology, like as if
[529.20 --> 532.06] the GPP and all the backlash was like draining their resources.
[532.40 --> 535.72] As if all the technical people at NVIDIA were quick working on marketing.
[535.94 --> 536.06] Yeah.
[536.06 --> 538.84] Like the engineers were like, I can't focus because everyone hates us.
[538.94 --> 539.98] This is a PR nightmare.
[540.76 --> 541.96] This is so brutal.
[541.96 --> 547.94] So yeah, they didn't, yeah, it's that, that part is so brutal because a lot of the reason
[547.94 --> 551.44] why this is all come to light was because of people, I don't remember his name right
[551.44 --> 555.94] now, but from the, the guy from Hard OCP, um, that, that like pushed all this kind of
[555.94 --> 558.18] stuff and the rest of the media, not just us at all.
[558.26 --> 563.16] We, we probably had a relatively small involvement because I think we just talked about it during
[563.16 --> 566.24] when there's other creators that have made dedicated videos and all this kind of stuff.
[566.24 --> 566.52] When?
[566.98 --> 567.26] When?
[567.38 --> 568.38] Oh, the NAH show.
[568.58 --> 569.04] Oh yeah.
[569.24 --> 569.90] Sorry about that.
[569.90 --> 570.18] Yeah.
[570.56 --> 572.02] A lot of confusion around the name.
[572.36 --> 574.10] Uh, but there's been a lot of.
[574.10 --> 575.34] NVIDIA made us rebrand.
[576.04 --> 579.38] It's the NAH show with Radeon graphics.
[579.58 --> 582.90] Anytime we talk about AMD graphics cards, that's going to be on the NAH show.
[583.18 --> 583.86] That's awesome.