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[1510.18 --> 1510.86] This is very brutal.
[1510.88 --> 1514.30] This is a brazen and blatant ripoff.
[1514.66 --> 1515.32] Brazen, yeah.
[1515.68 --> 1516.52] Brazen indeed.
[1516.72 --> 1517.16] I like that.
[1517.64 --> 1518.28] Thank you.
[1518.42 --> 1518.82] Thank you.
[1518.82 --> 1521.82] I worked hard on that $40 word.
[1528.82 --> 1530.34] So, I don't know.
[1530.54 --> 1530.88] It's an iMac again?
[1530.96 --> 1536.70] The argument that's raging right now is, are these unique design elements?
[1536.82 --> 1543.16] The notch, the camera placement, the wallpaper, or is this just now standard building blocks
[1543.16 --> 1544.94] of a phone and we shouldn't care about this kind of thing?
[1545.98 --> 1547.38] Who are you with on this one?
[1547.38 --> 1550.26] I'm with Apple in this one, to be completely honest.
[1550.38 --> 1551.10] That's brutal.
[1551.50 --> 1556.44] There's like, there's even little things that they could have done to make it a, you know,
[1556.52 --> 1557.92] just marginally different.
[1558.02 --> 1558.16] Yeah.
[1558.94 --> 1565.12] The notch, both sides having the notch, I don't necessarily see that being a huge deal, personally.
[1565.12 --> 1567.62] It's like, way to go.
[1567.80 --> 1571.46] You copied Apple doing something literally no one asked for.
[1571.84 --> 1572.12] Yeah.
[1574.30 --> 1574.70] Hooray.
[1576.58 --> 1582.26] But like, everything, it's the fact that everything is the same.
[1582.44 --> 1584.46] Like, if they had the notch, but the back was different.
[1584.78 --> 1584.92] Yeah.
[1584.92 --> 1587.14] If they didn't have the notch, then the back was the same.
[1587.14 --> 1590.36] Like, at least like a little bit, even then I'd be like, oh, they're trying to make it
[1590.36 --> 1592.00] so that everyone else thinks that you have an iPhone.
[1592.00 --> 1592.12] Yeah.
[1592.32 --> 1593.86] You could make it, you could make the.
[1593.88 --> 1595.06] It's still not great.
[1595.66 --> 1598.36] But the fact that it's all that way is just too brutal.
[1598.36 --> 1600.16] At least you could make an argument that way.
[1600.24 --> 1603.82] And like, at least put a notably different wallpaper.
[1604.86 --> 1605.22] What?
[1605.22 --> 1605.58] What?
[1606.28 --> 1612.90] Well, you can, I mean, when they do something like that, something completely blatant, like
[1612.90 --> 1618.18] the wallpaper, you can tell that they're not, they're clearly not targeting us.
[1618.34 --> 1619.68] They're not targeting the tech.
[1620.22 --> 1623.16] I think it's intentional confusion to a certain degree.
[1623.24 --> 1623.46] Yeah.
[1623.68 --> 1623.92] Yeah.
[1624.16 --> 1624.40] Yeah.
[1624.44 --> 1626.30] I think they're, I think they're targeting people.
[1626.30 --> 1628.54] I saw ads for this one that looks like that one.
[1628.68 --> 1628.88] Let me.
[1629.56 --> 1630.34] I think so.
[1630.68 --> 1633.26] I think it's, I think it's, I think it's going that way.
[1633.36 --> 1633.92] That's not cool.
[1633.92 --> 1638.68] I don't know if Lenovo, which is Motorola's parent company now, they own the brand.
[1638.78 --> 1643.82] I don't know if they have responded to this, but I would be interested to hear what they
[1643.82 --> 1644.90] have to say for themselves.
[1645.08 --> 1649.30] If they're smart, they'll probably just say nothing and hope the whole thing blows over.
[1649.68 --> 1652.26] But someone in the, sorry.
[1652.36 --> 1659.26] It's not helpful because Apple makes a lot of noise about getting copied or people ripping
[1659.26 --> 1665.18] off their design or, you know, it being frustrating to be, you know, the one who's pushing design
[1665.18 --> 1665.62] forward.
[1666.62 --> 1673.20] And what's frustrating for me is when things like this happen, it adds a lot of weight
[1673.20 --> 1674.22] to Apple's whining.
[1674.60 --> 1674.86] Yeah.
[1674.96 --> 1680.28] Whereas if Apple was just constantly whining, which they probably would anyway, if Apple was
[1680.28 --> 1685.86] just constantly whining about this stuff, but they could never back it up, then it would
[1685.86 --> 1688.48] actually be damaging to themselves.
[1688.98 --> 1695.40] But as it is, if companies like Motorola are running out and actually copying the iPhone,
[1696.62 --> 1701.66] it means that every time Apple gets to cry about this, we have to take it more seriously.
[1701.82 --> 1702.40] Do you get what I mean?
[1702.62 --> 1703.70] Yo, I absolutely do.
[1703.70 --> 1707.34] Um, but, but maybe it was intentional.
[1707.78 --> 1709.64] Maybe Motorola knew this was going to happen.
[1709.72 --> 1710.60] They wanted it to happen.
[1711.12 --> 1712.90] Uh, people want us to show the P20 Pro.
[1713.04 --> 1713.60] That's another.
[1713.80 --> 1718.96] Now we're actually talking about a Motorola phone on the WAN show.
[1719.22 --> 1720.18] That's true.
[1720.42 --> 1722.36] We normally would not have done that.
[1723.66 --> 1725.20] So here's the P20 Pro.
[1726.40 --> 1727.40] It's not the same.
[1727.48 --> 1728.80] It's not quite the same.
[1728.80 --> 1731.62] I actually would say it's a notable depart.
[1731.78 --> 1733.06] The notch is way smaller.
[1733.06 --> 1734.84] The camera set up on the back is different.
[1734.92 --> 1736.64] I know it's similar, but there's another camera.
[1736.76 --> 1738.18] The logo is not in the same spot.
[1738.20 --> 1738.88] The logo is not in the center.
[1739.02 --> 1739.88] There's branding here.
[1739.96 --> 1742.36] There's only so much you can do with a phone these days.
[1742.52 --> 1744.50] This is clearly a different phone.
[1745.02 --> 1750.08] Whereas that Motorola phone was not clearly a different phone.
[1751.10 --> 1751.76] And that's...
[1751.76 --> 1754.46] Like if I was, if I was super ignorant to phones, I wouldn't necessarily know which
[1754.46 --> 1757.40] one of those was the iPhone and which one wasn't, but I would know that they were
[1757.40 --> 1758.20] different phones.
[1759.28 --> 1762.70] Like when you originally showed me that thing, if the time wasn't there, if the like
[1762.70 --> 1767.28] Android clock thing wasn't there, I would have legitimately thought that they were
[1767.28 --> 1769.10] actually identical phones.
[1769.78 --> 1772.84] And even then I thought they might have been and someone just Photoshopped it over.
[1774.28 --> 1778.32] Someone in the chat was like, your guys' stream is dead because we don't have as many
[1778.32 --> 1779.26] viewers as we normally do.

[1510.18 --> 1510.86] This is very brutal.

[1510.88 --> 1514.30] This is a brazen and blatant ripoff.

[1514.66 --> 1515.32] Brazen, yeah.

[1515.68 --> 1516.52] Brazen indeed.

[1516.72 --> 1517.16] I like that.

[1517.64 --> 1518.28] Thank you.

[1518.42 --> 1518.82] Thank you.

[1518.82 --> 1521.82] I worked hard on that $40 word.

[1528.82 --> 1530.34] So, I don't know.

[1530.54 --> 1530.88] It's an iMac again?

[1530.96 --> 1536.70] The argument that's raging right now is, are these unique design elements?

[1536.82 --> 1543.16] The notch, the camera placement, the wallpaper, or is this just now standard building blocks

[1543.16 --> 1544.94] of a phone and we shouldn't care about this kind of thing?

[1545.98 --> 1547.38] Who are you with on this one?

[1547.38 --> 1550.26] I'm with Apple in this one, to be completely honest.

[1550.38 --> 1551.10] That's brutal.

[1551.50 --> 1556.44] There's like, there's even little things that they could have done to make it a, you know,

[1556.52 --> 1557.92] just marginally different.

[1558.02 --> 1558.16] Yeah.

[1558.94 --> 1565.12] The notch, both sides having the notch, I don't necessarily see that being a huge deal, personally.

[1565.12 --> 1567.62] It's like, way to go.

[1567.80 --> 1571.46] You copied Apple doing something literally no one asked for.

[1571.84 --> 1572.12] Yeah.

[1574.30 --> 1574.70] Hooray.

[1576.58 --> 1582.26] But like, everything, it's the fact that everything is the same.

[1582.44 --> 1584.46] Like, if they had the notch, but the back was different.

[1584.78 --> 1584.92] Yeah.

[1584.92 --> 1587.14] If they didn't have the notch, then the back was the same.

[1587.14 --> 1590.36] Like, at least like a little bit, even then I'd be like, oh, they're trying to make it

[1590.36 --> 1592.00] so that everyone else thinks that you have an iPhone.

[1592.00 --> 1592.12] Yeah.

[1592.32 --> 1593.86] You could make it, you could make the.

[1593.88 --> 1595.06] It's still not great.

[1595.66 --> 1598.36] But the fact that it's all that way is just too brutal.

[1598.36 --> 1600.16] At least you could make an argument that way.

[1600.24 --> 1603.82] And like, at least put a notably different wallpaper.

[1604.86 --> 1605.22] What?

[1605.22 --> 1605.58] What?

[1606.28 --> 1612.90] Well, you can, I mean, when they do something like that, something completely blatant, like

[1612.90 --> 1618.18] the wallpaper, you can tell that they're not, they're clearly not targeting us.

[1618.34 --> 1619.68] They're not targeting the tech.

[1620.22 --> 1623.16] I think it's intentional confusion to a certain degree.

[1623.24 --> 1623.46] Yeah.

[1623.68 --> 1623.92] Yeah.

[1624.16 --> 1624.40] Yeah.

[1624.44 --> 1626.30] I think they're, I think they're targeting people.

[1626.30 --> 1628.54] I saw ads for this one that looks like that one.

[1628.68 --> 1628.88] Let me.

[1629.56 --> 1630.34] I think so.

[1630.68 --> 1633.26] I think it's, I think it's, I think it's going that way.

[1633.36 --> 1633.92] That's not cool.

[1633.92 --> 1638.68] I don't know if Lenovo, which is Motorola's parent company now, they own the brand.

[1638.78 --> 1643.82] I don't know if they have responded to this, but I would be interested to hear what they

[1643.82 --> 1644.90] have to say for themselves.

[1645.08 --> 1649.30] If they're smart, they'll probably just say nothing and hope the whole thing blows over.

[1649.68 --> 1652.26] But someone in the, sorry.

[1652.36 --> 1659.26] It's not helpful because Apple makes a lot of noise about getting copied or people ripping

[1659.26 --> 1665.18] off their design or, you know, it being frustrating to be, you know, the one who's pushing design

[1665.18 --> 1665.62] forward.

[1666.62 --> 1673.20] And what's frustrating for me is when things like this happen, it adds a lot of weight

[1673.20 --> 1674.22] to Apple's whining.

[1674.60 --> 1674.86] Yeah.

[1674.96 --> 1680.28] Whereas if Apple was just constantly whining, which they probably would anyway, if Apple was

[1680.28 --> 1685.86] just constantly whining about this stuff, but they could never back it up, then it would

[1685.86 --> 1688.48] actually be damaging to themselves.

[1688.98 --> 1695.40] But as it is, if companies like Motorola are running out and actually copying the iPhone,

[1696.62 --> 1701.66] it means that every time Apple gets to cry about this, we have to take it more seriously.

[1701.82 --> 1702.40] Do you get what I mean?

[1702.62 --> 1703.70] Yo, I absolutely do.

[1703.70 --> 1707.34] Um, but, but maybe it was intentional.

[1707.78 --> 1709.64] Maybe Motorola knew this was going to happen.

[1709.72 --> 1710.60] They wanted it to happen.

[1711.12 --> 1712.90] Uh, people want us to show the P20 Pro.

[1713.04 --> 1713.60] That's another.

[1713.80 --> 1718.96] Now we're actually talking about a Motorola phone on the WAN show.

[1719.22 --> 1720.18] That's true.

[1720.42 --> 1722.36] We normally would not have done that.

[1723.66 --> 1725.20] So here's the P20 Pro.

[1726.40 --> 1727.40] It's not the same.

[1727.48 --> 1728.80] It's not quite the same.

[1728.80 --> 1731.62] I actually would say it's a notable depart.

[1731.78 --> 1733.06] The notch is way smaller.

[1733.06 --> 1734.84] The camera set up on the back is different.

[1734.92 --> 1736.64] I know it's similar, but there's another camera.

[1736.76 --> 1738.18] The logo is not in the same spot.

[1738.20 --> 1738.88] The logo is not in the center.

[1739.02 --> 1739.88] There's branding here.

[1739.96 --> 1742.36] There's only so much you can do with a phone these days.

[1742.52 --> 1744.50] This is clearly a different phone.

[1745.02 --> 1750.08] Whereas that Motorola phone was not clearly a different phone.

[1751.10 --> 1751.76] And that's...

[1751.76 --> 1754.46] Like if I was, if I was super ignorant to phones, I wouldn't necessarily know which

[1754.46 --> 1757.40] one of those was the iPhone and which one wasn't, but I would know that they were

[1757.40 --> 1758.20] different phones.

[1759.28 --> 1762.70] Like when you originally showed me that thing, if the time wasn't there, if the like

[1762.70 --> 1767.28] Android clock thing wasn't there, I would have legitimately thought that they were

[1767.28 --> 1769.10] actually identical phones.

[1769.78 --> 1772.84] And even then I thought they might have been and someone just Photoshopped it over.

[1774.28 --> 1778.32] Someone in the chat was like, your guys' stream is dead because we don't have as many

[1778.32 --> 1779.26] viewers as we normally do.