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[333.92 --> 336.10] There's a little bit of pause where you're like, uh…
[336.10 --> 337.56] Yeah, because they don't get…
[337.56 --> 344.06] Like, I wouldn't say that in North America, in the media, in the kiosks, in your telecom store…
[344.06 --> 344.26] Yeah.
[344.26 --> 353.16] I wouldn't say that Huawei gets more attention than, you know, someone like an LG, for example, whose market share is actually abysmal.
[353.46 --> 353.66] Yeah.
[353.96 --> 357.18] But over here gets treated like a top-tier brand.
[359.28 --> 362.14] So, anyway, he goes on stage and he's talking about this whole thing.
[362.22 --> 364.82] He's like, yeah, we have won over the trust of consumers.
[365.14 --> 367.66] We have won over the trust of carriers worldwide.
[368.42 --> 371.04] And we have, you know, we…
[371.04 --> 373.34] And he sort of seemed to lose his composure.
[373.34 --> 379.16] Like, I don't follow mobile news as much as I perhaps should.
[379.24 --> 385.28] Other than our topics for WAN show and when I'm working on a review of a device or whatever the case may be.
[385.34 --> 385.50] Yeah.
[386.02 --> 387.02] So, I did not…
[387.02 --> 388.92] In your defense, it's been a little boring for a while.
[388.92 --> 401.92] I did not know about any controversy or any of the plans that Huawei had made with AT&T about bringing the device, not just into the U.S., but into AT&T stores.
[401.92 --> 403.92] Because something to the tune of…
[403.92 --> 407.64] This is according to the Android Authority article here.
[407.64 --> 415.04] Something to the tune of 90% of smartphone sales in the U.S. are done on contract with a subsidy.
[416.08 --> 416.32] Okay.
[416.32 --> 422.82] And this isn't the case in a lot of other markets where people do tend to buy their devices outright like they would any other consumer.
[422.88 --> 426.22] But I'm not surprised due to how contracts work in North America.
[426.46 --> 426.60] Exactly.
[426.60 --> 427.92] And they don't work that way everywhere.
[428.06 --> 428.88] And they don't work that way.
[428.88 --> 434.20] Like, in North America, buying a phone on contract is actually not stupid.
[434.56 --> 434.86] Yeah.
[435.96 --> 436.52] And…
[436.52 --> 438.06] You know, with a lot of contracts.
[438.12 --> 439.18] With some contracts it is.
[439.18 --> 439.22] Some of them it's dumb.
[439.22 --> 439.62] But, yeah.
[439.86 --> 448.56] But, like, you know, back when I was first getting into, you know, cell phone ownership when I was in, like, high school, I absolutely just bought on contract.
[448.58 --> 449.76] You get the $0 phone.
[449.94 --> 450.88] You get the $0 phone.
[450.88 --> 459.60] And back then, a lot of the carriers, at least the one I was on anyway, so some carriers, I'll say some, the one that I was on didn't give you a discount for bringing your own device.
[459.92 --> 461.52] So you were actually an idiot.
[461.84 --> 461.94] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[461.94 --> 464.18] If you didn't, just get hardware.
[464.44 --> 465.76] Now, you had to sign a contract.
[466.34 --> 467.88] That was the drawback.
[467.88 --> 468.04] Yeah.
[468.42 --> 471.00] But there were, what, two carriers at the time.
[471.14 --> 474.26] There was Rogers and there was Telus here.
[474.26 --> 474.68] Telus, yeah.
[474.74 --> 479.00] I don't think Bell was available here yet back in, like, 2002 or whatever.
[479.00 --> 480.84] You're talking, like, sliders and stuff, right?
[481.16 --> 483.54] I don't want to talk about it.
[483.62 --> 483.84] Flip?
[484.96 --> 486.20] No, this is pre-flip.
[486.22 --> 486.48] Bricks.
[486.50 --> 487.32] I hate you.
[487.34 --> 488.34] You're talking about bricks.
[488.36 --> 489.22] I hate you.
[489.26 --> 490.96] Okay, so I wasn't in the game at that point.
[491.18 --> 491.78] I hate you.
[491.78 --> 493.48] Wasn't allowed to have a phone at that age.
[495.58 --> 500.70] Um, what was the, oh, what was that phone that I had?
[501.22 --> 502.90] It was, I don't remember.
[503.74 --> 504.22] V-Box.
[504.34 --> 505.48] I got a phone pretty late.
[505.74 --> 506.48] Okay, this was.
[506.60 --> 507.58] Oh, nice.
[507.58 --> 508.88] This was my first phone.
[509.06 --> 509.50] Yes.
[509.50 --> 511.56] Oh, that's amazing.
[511.70 --> 514.98] So I got it because my mom's hard of hearing and, um.
[515.86 --> 516.22] Okay.
[516.38 --> 523.24] So this was, I believe, this was, like, the first, like, text-centric device out there.
[523.44 --> 523.60] Yeah.
[523.66 --> 526.30] Um, but this came around at a time that bricks were the norm.
[526.30 --> 527.60] Right, so she reads lips.
[527.78 --> 529.54] So if you want to call her, it's not really going to work that great.
[529.54 --> 529.88] That's right.
[529.96 --> 531.02] I never even thought about that.
[531.02 --> 531.12] Yeah.
[531.12 --> 531.60] That makes sense.
[531.70 --> 531.82] Yeah.
[531.92 --> 532.16] Okay.
[532.16 --> 533.76] Because you've met her and you probably didn't notice.
[534.02 --> 535.02] Because she's really good at it.
[535.02 --> 535.18] Yeah.
[535.46 --> 535.64] Yeah.
[535.64 --> 536.56] Um, but anyway.
[537.00 --> 538.82] So, so that was my first phone.
[539.14 --> 540.80] And, um, right.
[540.90 --> 544.44] So, so the only drawback was that you had to sign a contract, which didn't really matter
[544.44 --> 546.88] that much because, quite frankly, where else were you going to go?
[546.88 --> 549.24] Uh, if you wanted to have a cell phone at all.
[549.26 --> 552.08] So as long as I knew I wanted a cell phone for two years, it was no big deal.
[552.16 --> 557.48] And then during your two years, you would accumulate credit towards your hardware upgrade
[557.48 --> 558.56] after a couple of years.
[558.72 --> 561.08] The upgrade cycles weren't so fast.
[561.70 --> 567.40] Like, to my knowledge, Apple kind of pioneered the new phone every year come hell or high
[567.40 --> 569.10] water upgrade cycle.
[569.10 --> 571.00] Because there wasn't that drastic of improvements.
[571.34 --> 575.36] And I wasn't an enthusiast at all about phones.
[575.36 --> 577.84] They, they, they placed calls.

[333.92 --> 336.10] There's a little bit of pause where you're like, uh…

[336.10 --> 337.56] Yeah, because they don't get…

[337.56 --> 344.06] Like, I wouldn't say that in North America, in the media, in the kiosks, in your telecom store…

[344.06 --> 344.26] Yeah.

[344.26 --> 353.16] I wouldn't say that Huawei gets more attention than, you know, someone like an LG, for example, whose market share is actually abysmal.

[353.46 --> 353.66] Yeah.

[353.96 --> 357.18] But over here gets treated like a top-tier brand.

[359.28 --> 362.14] So, anyway, he goes on stage and he's talking about this whole thing.

[362.22 --> 364.82] He's like, yeah, we have won over the trust of consumers.

[365.14 --> 367.66] We have won over the trust of carriers worldwide.

[368.42 --> 371.04] And we have, you know, we…

[371.04 --> 373.34] And he sort of seemed to lose his composure.

[373.34 --> 379.16] Like, I don't follow mobile news as much as I perhaps should.

[379.24 --> 385.28] Other than our topics for WAN show and when I'm working on a review of a device or whatever the case may be.

[385.34 --> 385.50] Yeah.

[386.02 --> 387.02] So, I did not…

[387.02 --> 388.92] In your defense, it's been a little boring for a while.

[388.92 --> 401.92] I did not know about any controversy or any of the plans that Huawei had made with AT&T about bringing the device, not just into the U.S., but into AT&T stores.

[401.92 --> 403.92] Because something to the tune of…

[403.92 --> 407.64] This is according to the Android Authority article here.

[407.64 --> 415.04] Something to the tune of 90% of smartphone sales in the U.S. are done on contract with a subsidy.

[416.08 --> 416.32] Okay.

[416.32 --> 422.82] And this isn't the case in a lot of other markets where people do tend to buy their devices outright like they would any other consumer.

[422.88 --> 426.22] But I'm not surprised due to how contracts work in North America.

[426.46 --> 426.60] Exactly.

[426.60 --> 427.92] And they don't work that way everywhere.

[428.06 --> 428.88] And they don't work that way.

[428.88 --> 434.20] Like, in North America, buying a phone on contract is actually not stupid.

[434.56 --> 434.86] Yeah.

[435.96 --> 436.52] And…

[436.52 --> 438.06] You know, with a lot of contracts.

[438.12 --> 439.18] With some contracts it is.

[439.18 --> 439.22] Some of them it's dumb.

[439.22 --> 439.62] But, yeah.

[439.86 --> 448.56] But, like, you know, back when I was first getting into, you know, cell phone ownership when I was in, like, high school, I absolutely just bought on contract.

[448.58 --> 449.76] You get the $0 phone.

[449.94 --> 450.88] You get the $0 phone.

[450.88 --> 459.60] And back then, a lot of the carriers, at least the one I was on anyway, so some carriers, I'll say some, the one that I was on didn't give you a discount for bringing your own device.

[459.92 --> 461.52] So you were actually an idiot.

[461.84 --> 461.94] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[461.94 --> 464.18] If you didn't, just get hardware.

[464.44 --> 465.76] Now, you had to sign a contract.

[466.34 --> 467.88] That was the drawback.

[467.88 --> 468.04] Yeah.

[468.42 --> 471.00] But there were, what, two carriers at the time.

[471.14 --> 474.26] There was Rogers and there was Telus here.

[474.26 --> 474.68] Telus, yeah.

[474.74 --> 479.00] I don't think Bell was available here yet back in, like, 2002 or whatever.

[479.00 --> 480.84] You're talking, like, sliders and stuff, right?

[481.16 --> 483.54] I don't want to talk about it.

[483.62 --> 483.84] Flip?

[484.96 --> 486.20] No, this is pre-flip.

[486.22 --> 486.48] Bricks.

[486.50 --> 487.32] I hate you.

[487.34 --> 488.34] You're talking about bricks.

[488.36 --> 489.22] I hate you.

[489.26 --> 490.96] Okay, so I wasn't in the game at that point.

[491.18 --> 491.78] I hate you.

[491.78 --> 493.48] Wasn't allowed to have a phone at that age.

[495.58 --> 500.70] Um, what was the, oh, what was that phone that I had?

[501.22 --> 502.90] It was, I don't remember.

[503.74 --> 504.22] V-Box.

[504.34 --> 505.48] I got a phone pretty late.

[505.74 --> 506.48] Okay, this was.

[506.60 --> 507.58] Oh, nice.

[507.58 --> 508.88] This was my first phone.

[509.06 --> 509.50] Yes.

[509.50 --> 511.56] Oh, that's amazing.

[511.70 --> 514.98] So I got it because my mom's hard of hearing and, um.

[515.86 --> 516.22] Okay.

[516.38 --> 523.24] So this was, I believe, this was, like, the first, like, text-centric device out there.

[523.44 --> 523.60] Yeah.

[523.66 --> 526.30] Um, but this came around at a time that bricks were the norm.

[526.30 --> 527.60] Right, so she reads lips.

[527.78 --> 529.54] So if you want to call her, it's not really going to work that great.

[529.54 --> 529.88] That's right.

[529.96 --> 531.02] I never even thought about that.

[531.02 --> 531.12] Yeah.

[531.12 --> 531.60] That makes sense.

[531.70 --> 531.82] Yeah.

[531.92 --> 532.16] Okay.

[532.16 --> 533.76] Because you've met her and you probably didn't notice.

[534.02 --> 535.02] Because she's really good at it.

[535.02 --> 535.18] Yeah.

[535.46 --> 535.64] Yeah.

[535.64 --> 536.56] Um, but anyway.

[537.00 --> 538.82] So, so that was my first phone.

[539.14 --> 540.80] And, um, right.

[540.90 --> 544.44] So, so the only drawback was that you had to sign a contract, which didn't really matter

[544.44 --> 546.88] that much because, quite frankly, where else were you going to go?

[546.88 --> 549.24] Uh, if you wanted to have a cell phone at all.

[549.26 --> 552.08] So as long as I knew I wanted a cell phone for two years, it was no big deal.

[552.16 --> 557.48] And then during your two years, you would accumulate credit towards your hardware upgrade

[557.48 --> 558.56] after a couple of years.

[558.72 --> 561.08] The upgrade cycles weren't so fast.

[561.70 --> 567.40] Like, to my knowledge, Apple kind of pioneered the new phone every year come hell or high

[567.40 --> 569.10] water upgrade cycle.

[569.10 --> 571.00] Because there wasn't that drastic of improvements.

[571.34 --> 575.36] And I wasn't an enthusiast at all about phones.

[575.36 --> 577.84] They, they, they placed calls.