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[1551.44 --> 1551.80] Oh, no.
[1551.80 --> 1558.68] I think this has a lot to do with stopping things that the community is not particularly upset about, but YouTube and advertisers might be upset about.
[1558.70 --> 1558.86] Yeah.
[1558.86 --> 1569.52] I think it will directly help stop things like people monetizing movie, song, episode, all those kind of uploads.
[1569.66 --> 1573.64] Because a lot of those accounts will get banned, but will get payouts.
[1574.84 --> 1577.96] And will get payouts based on content that they ripped from someone else.
[1577.96 --> 1582.36] And they might just create a new account and then get paid out on that account, create a new account, get paid out on that account.
[1582.68 --> 1584.98] So I think they're trying to hammer down on that.
[1585.26 --> 1586.64] I don't think it's really going to solve much else.
[1586.74 --> 1593.76] Another thing that I want to throw into the ring that some people have brought up is if you have 1,000 subscribers,
[1593.76 --> 1604.50] if you have less than 1,000 subscribers and less than 4,000 hours of total watch time over the last 12 months, how much were you making?
[1605.26 --> 1606.24] So, okay.
[1606.94 --> 1612.30] This is where we get into the conversation that goes, is this a big deal?
[1612.56 --> 1612.86] Yeah.
[1612.86 --> 1621.62] So it is a big deal in the sense that YouTube is kind of spinning it as a benefit to the community.
[1621.98 --> 1631.30] When actually this has, as far as I can tell, everything to do with the blowback that they're getting from advertisers for having that wide open,
[1631.38 --> 1632.84] we're going to put monetization on everything.
[1633.90 --> 1639.88] Then advertisers realizing that their brand was getting, I forgot that part of the history lesson, unfortunately.
[1639.88 --> 1644.94] So advertisers realizing that their brand was getting placed next to content that they found objectionable.
[1645.14 --> 1646.94] Like literally terrorists.
[1647.10 --> 1649.58] Which we've talked about before.
[1650.30 --> 1653.00] And I think this is just follow up on that.
[1653.30 --> 1655.46] And I think that the suicide forest incident.
[1655.60 --> 1656.62] Has nothing to do with this.
[1656.70 --> 1657.84] Remember, no, it does.
[1657.92 --> 1658.28] It does.
[1658.46 --> 1659.74] But not on the community side.
[1659.84 --> 1660.08] Yeah.
[1660.48 --> 1664.36] What it has to do with is that he was a preferred channel.
[1664.78 --> 1665.00] Yeah.
[1665.00 --> 1670.44] A channel that YouTube specifically goes out there and pitches to advertisers.
[1670.60 --> 1671.52] Like we're a preferred channel.
[1672.06 --> 1679.20] Preferred channels are, to an even greater degree, I would think, expected to abide by the community guidelines.
[1679.32 --> 1686.44] Which, by the way, doesn't necessarily mean that you can't drop a, you know, shit bomb in your video occasionally.
[1687.44 --> 1689.10] It's spelled out pretty clearly.
[1689.10 --> 1694.84] I mean, you know, egregious profanity, I believe, is covered in the community guidelines.
[1694.92 --> 1695.24] I'm not sure.
[1695.30 --> 1696.00] I haven't looked at them lately.
[1696.00 --> 1698.08] Egregious is kind of a specific term.
[1698.10 --> 1700.30] It's a very sort of gray area, actually.
[1700.46 --> 1702.52] But there are things that are covered.
[1702.52 --> 1707.24] Well, no, it makes it so that probably what you just said isn't going to get you owned.
[1707.78 --> 1709.48] You'd have to, like, go pretty ham.
[1710.18 --> 1713.56] It's still gray, but you'd have to, but I don't know how they'd make it less gray.
[1713.74 --> 1714.16] You know what I mean?
[1714.16 --> 1715.56] So here's the community guidelines.
[1716.42 --> 1718.48] Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[1719.20 --> 1720.62] Nudity or sexual content.
[1721.12 --> 1722.54] Harmful or dangerous content.
[1723.06 --> 1724.48] Violent or graphic content.
[1724.72 --> 1725.48] Hateful content.
[1725.68 --> 1726.78] Harassment and cyberbullying.
[1726.94 --> 1727.40] Threats.
[1727.54 --> 1729.22] Span misleading metadata and scams.
[1729.38 --> 1730.84] Copyright, privacy, impersonation.
[1730.98 --> 1732.98] Child endangerment and additional policies.
[1732.98 --> 1742.48] A big issue about all this is, like, I can even think off the top of my head of one or more examples that I've seen of at least every single thing in there.
[1743.12 --> 1743.22] Yeah.
[1743.22 --> 1748.84] So vulgar language is actually bundled under additional policies right here.
[1749.18 --> 1756.98] And it specifically says here that sexually explicit language or excessive swearing in your video or associated metadata may lead to your video being age-restricted.
[1757.04 --> 1757.64] So excessive.
[1757.88 --> 1764.72] So what happened here was, and in this case, I don't even think there's really anything in here.
[1764.86 --> 1766.52] You could call it graphic content, actually.
[1767.50 --> 1771.64] Violent or gory content that's primarily intended to be shocking, sensational, or disrespectful.
[1771.64 --> 1772.70] Okay, it's definitely covered there.
[1772.70 --> 1773.48] That's exactly what it is.
[1773.48 --> 1787.50] So anyway, the problem here is that, as far as I can tell, YouTube got yet another round of blowback from advertisers for specifically promoting a channel that blatantly violated their community guidelines.
[1787.50 --> 1792.84] And then the content was just left there, presumably with ads still running on it.
[1792.84 --> 1797.92] And I think if it was dropped super fast, it might have been a different reaction from the advertisers.
[1798.26 --> 1798.56] Yes.
[1798.84 --> 1799.86] And from the community.
[1800.16 --> 1800.32] Yeah.
[1800.32 --> 1803.22] But ultimately, that's what's going on here.
[1803.38 --> 1812.54] The collateral damage is mostly channels that, and YouTube lays this out in their blog post, mostly channels that made less than $2.50 last month.
[1812.66 --> 1813.88] Okay, this is what I was saying.
[1813.96 --> 1815.60] And less than $100 in the last year.
[1816.10 --> 1819.82] If you're relying on that, whoa.
[1820.76 --> 1821.14] Yeah.
[1821.14 --> 1825.12] There is probably other ways that you can make money on the internet easier.
[1825.20 --> 1826.04] We're pretty sure there are.
[1826.22 --> 1827.90] Or even we mowed lawns.
[1828.26 --> 1829.08] We mowed lawns.
[1829.08 --> 1829.72] And that was definitely more profitable than that.
[1829.72 --> 1830.58] We sold berries.
[1830.78 --> 1831.92] That wasn't profitable.
[1832.92 --> 1833.22] Yeah.
[1833.36 --> 1833.56] Yeah.
[1833.66 --> 1833.94] Anyway.
[1834.38 --> 1836.12] The point is that...
[1836.12 --> 1838.16] You could just go work at the place that...
[1838.16 --> 1842.04] There's a lot of outrage about this, and I'm putting myself...
[1842.04 --> 1844.98] I won't bundle you in with me, but I'm putting myself in a position...
[1844.98 --> 1845.38] I'm on it.
[1845.38 --> 1848.26] ...to say something kind of unpopular.
[1848.62 --> 1848.76] Yeah.
[1848.80 --> 1851.40] But I actually don't think this is that big of a deal.
[1851.52 --> 1851.96] I'm with you.
[1853.66 --> 1856.46] Because, okay, the first thing I did when I read this was like...
[1856.46 --> 1859.82] At the very beginning, before you get really deep into it, I was like, wow.
[1860.10 --> 1861.46] They're screwing over the little guy.

[1551.44 --> 1551.80] Oh, no.

[1551.80 --> 1558.68] I think this has a lot to do with stopping things that the community is not particularly upset about, but YouTube and advertisers might be upset about.

[1558.70 --> 1558.86] Yeah.

[1558.86 --> 1569.52] I think it will directly help stop things like people monetizing movie, song, episode, all those kind of uploads.

[1569.66 --> 1573.64] Because a lot of those accounts will get banned, but will get payouts.

[1574.84 --> 1577.96] And will get payouts based on content that they ripped from someone else.

[1577.96 --> 1582.36] And they might just create a new account and then get paid out on that account, create a new account, get paid out on that account.

[1582.68 --> 1584.98] So I think they're trying to hammer down on that.

[1585.26 --> 1586.64] I don't think it's really going to solve much else.

[1586.74 --> 1593.76] Another thing that I want to throw into the ring that some people have brought up is if you have 1,000 subscribers,

[1593.76 --> 1604.50] if you have less than 1,000 subscribers and less than 4,000 hours of total watch time over the last 12 months, how much were you making?

[1605.26 --> 1606.24] So, okay.

[1606.94 --> 1612.30] This is where we get into the conversation that goes, is this a big deal?

[1612.56 --> 1612.86] Yeah.

[1612.86 --> 1621.62] So it is a big deal in the sense that YouTube is kind of spinning it as a benefit to the community.

[1621.98 --> 1631.30] When actually this has, as far as I can tell, everything to do with the blowback that they're getting from advertisers for having that wide open,

[1631.38 --> 1632.84] we're going to put monetization on everything.

[1633.90 --> 1639.88] Then advertisers realizing that their brand was getting, I forgot that part of the history lesson, unfortunately.

[1639.88 --> 1644.94] So advertisers realizing that their brand was getting placed next to content that they found objectionable.

[1645.14 --> 1646.94] Like literally terrorists.

[1647.10 --> 1649.58] Which we've talked about before.

[1650.30 --> 1653.00] And I think this is just follow up on that.

[1653.30 --> 1655.46] And I think that the suicide forest incident.

[1655.60 --> 1656.62] Has nothing to do with this.

[1656.70 --> 1657.84] Remember, no, it does.

[1657.92 --> 1658.28] It does.

[1658.46 --> 1659.74] But not on the community side.

[1659.84 --> 1660.08] Yeah.

[1660.48 --> 1664.36] What it has to do with is that he was a preferred channel.

[1664.78 --> 1665.00] Yeah.

[1665.00 --> 1670.44] A channel that YouTube specifically goes out there and pitches to advertisers.

[1670.60 --> 1671.52] Like we're a preferred channel.

[1672.06 --> 1679.20] Preferred channels are, to an even greater degree, I would think, expected to abide by the community guidelines.

[1679.32 --> 1686.44] Which, by the way, doesn't necessarily mean that you can't drop a, you know, shit bomb in your video occasionally.

[1687.44 --> 1689.10] It's spelled out pretty clearly.

[1689.10 --> 1694.84] I mean, you know, egregious profanity, I believe, is covered in the community guidelines.

[1694.92 --> 1695.24] I'm not sure.

[1695.30 --> 1696.00] I haven't looked at them lately.

[1696.00 --> 1698.08] Egregious is kind of a specific term.

[1698.10 --> 1700.30] It's a very sort of gray area, actually.

[1700.46 --> 1702.52] But there are things that are covered.

[1702.52 --> 1707.24] Well, no, it makes it so that probably what you just said isn't going to get you owned.

[1707.78 --> 1709.48] You'd have to, like, go pretty ham.

[1710.18 --> 1713.56] It's still gray, but you'd have to, but I don't know how they'd make it less gray.

[1713.74 --> 1714.16] You know what I mean?

[1714.16 --> 1715.56] So here's the community guidelines.

[1716.42 --> 1718.48] Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[1719.20 --> 1720.62] Nudity or sexual content.

[1721.12 --> 1722.54] Harmful or dangerous content.

[1723.06 --> 1724.48] Violent or graphic content.

[1724.72 --> 1725.48] Hateful content.

[1725.68 --> 1726.78] Harassment and cyberbullying.

[1726.94 --> 1727.40] Threats.

[1727.54 --> 1729.22] Span misleading metadata and scams.

[1729.38 --> 1730.84] Copyright, privacy, impersonation.

[1730.98 --> 1732.98] Child endangerment and additional policies.

[1732.98 --> 1742.48] A big issue about all this is, like, I can even think off the top of my head of one or more examples that I've seen of at least every single thing in there.

[1743.12 --> 1743.22] Yeah.

[1743.22 --> 1748.84] So vulgar language is actually bundled under additional policies right here.

[1749.18 --> 1756.98] And it specifically says here that sexually explicit language or excessive swearing in your video or associated metadata may lead to your video being age-restricted.

[1757.04 --> 1757.64] So excessive.

[1757.88 --> 1764.72] So what happened here was, and in this case, I don't even think there's really anything in here.

[1764.86 --> 1766.52] You could call it graphic content, actually.

[1767.50 --> 1771.64] Violent or gory content that's primarily intended to be shocking, sensational, or disrespectful.

[1771.64 --> 1772.70] Okay, it's definitely covered there.

[1772.70 --> 1773.48] That's exactly what it is.

[1773.48 --> 1787.50] So anyway, the problem here is that, as far as I can tell, YouTube got yet another round of blowback from advertisers for specifically promoting a channel that blatantly violated their community guidelines.

[1787.50 --> 1792.84] And then the content was just left there, presumably with ads still running on it.

[1792.84 --> 1797.92] And I think if it was dropped super fast, it might have been a different reaction from the advertisers.

[1798.26 --> 1798.56] Yes.

[1798.84 --> 1799.86] And from the community.

[1800.16 --> 1800.32] Yeah.

[1800.32 --> 1803.22] But ultimately, that's what's going on here.

[1803.38 --> 1812.54] The collateral damage is mostly channels that, and YouTube lays this out in their blog post, mostly channels that made less than $2.50 last month.

[1812.66 --> 1813.88] Okay, this is what I was saying.

[1813.96 --> 1815.60] And less than $100 in the last year.

[1816.10 --> 1819.82] If you're relying on that, whoa.

[1820.76 --> 1821.14] Yeah.

[1821.14 --> 1825.12] There is probably other ways that you can make money on the internet easier.

[1825.20 --> 1826.04] We're pretty sure there are.

[1826.22 --> 1827.90] Or even we mowed lawns.

[1828.26 --> 1829.08] We mowed lawns.

[1829.08 --> 1829.72] And that was definitely more profitable than that.

[1829.72 --> 1830.58] We sold berries.

[1830.78 --> 1831.92] That wasn't profitable.

[1832.92 --> 1833.22] Yeah.

[1833.36 --> 1833.56] Yeah.

[1833.66 --> 1833.94] Anyway.

[1834.38 --> 1836.12] The point is that...

[1836.12 --> 1838.16] You could just go work at the place that...

[1838.16 --> 1842.04] There's a lot of outrage about this, and I'm putting myself...

[1842.04 --> 1844.98] I won't bundle you in with me, but I'm putting myself in a position...

[1844.98 --> 1845.38] I'm on it.

[1845.38 --> 1848.26] ...to say something kind of unpopular.

[1848.62 --> 1848.76] Yeah.

[1848.80 --> 1851.40] But I actually don't think this is that big of a deal.

[1851.52 --> 1851.96] I'm with you.

[1853.66 --> 1856.46] Because, okay, the first thing I did when I read this was like...

[1856.46 --> 1859.82] At the very beginning, before you get really deep into it, I was like, wow.

[1860.10 --> 1861.46] They're screwing over the little guy.