willtheorangeguy/2018-WAN-Show-Transcripts

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• Amazon's return policy and abuse of it
• Companies exploiting returns for profit
• Banning abusive accounts and appeals process
• Amazon's moderation on the forum and customer service
• Fake reviews and Amazon's crackdown on them
• Discounts and promotions being used to manipulate reviews
• The consequences of throwing out legitimate reviews along with fake ones
• The speaker discusses a company that posts fake reviews on Amazon and their business acquisition methods.
• They recall encountering one of these individuals at CES who openly discussed his work in creating click farms.
• The speaker expresses relief that this industry is being shut down.
• They compare the significance of click farms to other sectors like tourism or scams, noting its prevalence in certain countries.
• The conversation shifts to discussing various types of scams and the existence of "Hackerville".
• The episode ends with an announcement about upcoming content.
[0.00 --> 4.54] And we're live on the new set again.
[5.70 --> 8.62] This is like the third set in the last two months?
[8.78 --> 9.00] Month?
[9.26 --> 9.58] Two months?
[9.64 --> 11.76] Are you counting the between two ferns kind of set?
[12.10 --> 12.86] Yeah, definitely.
[13.28 --> 14.12] So fourth?
[15.10 --> 16.78] Okay, so we had the original set.
[17.00 --> 17.20] Yeah.
[17.34 --> 18.72] Then we had between two ferns.
[18.86 --> 19.32] Temporary.
[19.54 --> 22.34] We had between two ferns deluxe, but I don't think that necessarily counts.
[22.68 --> 24.40] Because it was like between six ferns.
[25.48 --> 28.36] And then we had like the we're in a corner and it's weird.
[28.58 --> 29.66] And then now we're here.
[30.40 --> 33.36] It was like the tech linked sideshow.
[33.50 --> 33.78] Yeah.
[33.90 --> 35.92] Like tech dinked.
[36.14 --> 37.94] Get out of here.
[38.34 --> 39.20] Relegated to the corner.
[39.30 --> 41.18] Now dedicated hex wall.
[41.34 --> 41.60] Yeah.
[41.76 --> 43.24] Red versus blue with an orange chair.
[43.42 --> 44.16] This is the new set.
[44.16 --> 45.96] The orange chair is a little clashing.
[46.50 --> 48.86] The white and gray chair works pretty well.
[49.24 --> 50.82] Maybe we'll try to swap that one out.
[50.88 --> 51.26] Who knows?
[51.32 --> 52.26] It'll probably never happen.
[52.34 --> 52.86] Doesn't matter.
[52.98 --> 53.80] This is the new set.
[54.08 --> 56.10] Welcome to the new Na Wan Shet.
[56.60 --> 56.92] Shet?
[57.04 --> 57.86] Bizarre world.
[58.18 --> 58.40] Yeah.
[59.04 --> 59.44] It's weird.
[59.44 --> 66.28] It's also very weird because we've had the Wan Show in the other corner of the office near where the workshop is.
[66.28 --> 70.10] For the longest time.
[70.22 --> 72.24] Not the entire time that we've been here.
[72.44 --> 76.70] Because Wan Show was technically like in some weird spare room for a little while and all this kind of stuff.
[76.80 --> 80.66] But for many years it's been in the same corner facing the exact same direction.
[81.00 --> 87.28] And now we are like almost as far away as possible from that point at the complete other side of the office.
[87.28 --> 88.32] It should be quieter over here.
[88.32 --> 89.58] It should be a lot quieter.
[89.78 --> 92.46] And I think the sound absorption stuff in general should be a lot better.
[93.98 --> 94.90] We'll have to...
[94.90 --> 96.30] I wonder what the Twitch chat is saying.
[96.74 --> 97.76] Let's do a straw poll actually.
[97.86 --> 98.74] I'm going to set up a straw poll.
[99.50 --> 101.72] Straw poll dot me.
[102.68 --> 109.58] I want to ask people whether it's like thumbs up or thumbs down for this set versus the other set.
[109.76 --> 110.06] All right.
[110.26 --> 111.50] Do you prefer the old area?
[111.66 --> 112.82] Do you like the new area?
[112.82 --> 114.68] New set.
[115.40 --> 115.88] Better.
[116.76 --> 117.32] Worse.
[117.46 --> 117.78] Worse.
[117.90 --> 118.04] Wait.
[118.12 --> 118.64] Third option.
[120.62 --> 122.64] I-D-G-A-F.
[124.06 --> 125.36] I don't care.
[127.44 --> 128.00] F.
[128.86 --> 129.20] Whoa.
[131.08 --> 132.76] I don't care fatso.
[133.46 --> 134.02] Hey.
[134.50 --> 135.34] That's mean.
[136.44 --> 137.60] I resent that.
[137.68 --> 137.80] Okay.
[137.84 --> 138.40] What the heck?
[139.04 --> 139.72] What just happened?
[141.10 --> 141.76] I'm going to refresh.
[141.90 --> 142.46] What is that?
[142.46 --> 143.08] There we go.
[144.40 --> 144.94] All right.
[145.28 --> 147.04] I want to see what Twitch chat has to say.
[150.88 --> 151.48] There we go.
[151.54 --> 152.48] I missed the old set.
[152.68 --> 153.68] I expected that.
[153.80 --> 155.44] I expected a lot of people were going to bring that up.
[156.48 --> 157.26] We fear change.
[158.48 --> 158.80] Yeah.
[158.90 --> 160.78] A lot of people do fear change in general.
[160.90 --> 161.56] What do you think, Ed?
[162.12 --> 162.70] New set?
[162.86 --> 163.32] Old set?
[163.42 --> 163.80] Which one?

• Amazon's return policy and abuse of it

• Companies exploiting returns for profit

• Banning abusive accounts and appeals process

• Amazon's moderation on the forum and customer service

• Fake reviews and Amazon's crackdown on them

• Discounts and promotions being used to manipulate reviews

• The consequences of throwing out legitimate reviews along with fake ones

• The speaker discusses a company that posts fake reviews on Amazon and their business acquisition methods.

• They recall encountering one of these individuals at CES who openly discussed his work in creating click farms.

• The speaker expresses relief that this industry is being shut down.

• They compare the significance of click farms to other sectors like tourism or scams, noting its prevalence in certain countries.

• The conversation shifts to discussing various types of scams and the existence of "Hackerville".

• The episode ends with an announcement about upcoming content.

[0.00 --> 4.54] And we're live on the new set again.

[5.70 --> 8.62] This is like the third set in the last two months?

[8.78 --> 9.00] Month?

[9.26 --> 9.58] Two months?

[9.64 --> 11.76] Are you counting the between two ferns kind of set?

[12.10 --> 12.86] Yeah, definitely.

[13.28 --> 14.12] So fourth?

[15.10 --> 16.78] Okay, so we had the original set.

[17.00 --> 17.20] Yeah.

[17.34 --> 18.72] Then we had between two ferns.

[18.86 --> 19.32] Temporary.

[19.54 --> 22.34] We had between two ferns deluxe, but I don't think that necessarily counts.

[22.68 --> 24.40] Because it was like between six ferns.

[25.48 --> 28.36] And then we had like the we're in a corner and it's weird.

[28.58 --> 29.66] And then now we're here.

[30.40 --> 33.36] It was like the tech linked sideshow.

[33.50 --> 33.78] Yeah.

[33.90 --> 35.92] Like tech dinked.

[36.14 --> 37.94] Get out of here.

[38.34 --> 39.20] Relegated to the corner.

[39.30 --> 41.18] Now dedicated hex wall.

[41.34 --> 41.60] Yeah.

[41.76 --> 43.24] Red versus blue with an orange chair.

[43.42 --> 44.16] This is the new set.

[44.16 --> 45.96] The orange chair is a little clashing.

[46.50 --> 48.86] The white and gray chair works pretty well.

[49.24 --> 50.82] Maybe we'll try to swap that one out.

[50.88 --> 51.26] Who knows?

[51.32 --> 52.26] It'll probably never happen.

[52.34 --> 52.86] Doesn't matter.

[52.98 --> 53.80] This is the new set.

[54.08 --> 56.10] Welcome to the new Na Wan Shet.

[56.60 --> 56.92] Shet?

[57.04 --> 57.86] Bizarre world.

[58.18 --> 58.40] Yeah.

[59.04 --> 59.44] It's weird.

[59.44 --> 66.28] It's also very weird because we've had the Wan Show in the other corner of the office near where the workshop is.

[66.28 --> 70.10] For the longest time.

[70.22 --> 72.24] Not the entire time that we've been here.

[72.44 --> 76.70] Because Wan Show was technically like in some weird spare room for a little while and all this kind of stuff.

[76.80 --> 80.66] But for many years it's been in the same corner facing the exact same direction.

[81.00 --> 87.28] And now we are like almost as far away as possible from that point at the complete other side of the office.

[87.28 --> 88.32] It should be quieter over here.

[88.32 --> 89.58] It should be a lot quieter.

[89.78 --> 92.46] And I think the sound absorption stuff in general should be a lot better.

[93.98 --> 94.90] We'll have to...

[94.90 --> 96.30] I wonder what the Twitch chat is saying.

[96.74 --> 97.76] Let's do a straw poll actually.

[97.86 --> 98.74] I'm going to set up a straw poll.

[99.50 --> 101.72] Straw poll dot me.

[102.68 --> 109.58] I want to ask people whether it's like thumbs up or thumbs down for this set versus the other set.

[109.76 --> 110.06] All right.

[110.26 --> 111.50] Do you prefer the old area?

[111.66 --> 112.82] Do you like the new area?

[112.82 --> 114.68] New set.

[115.40 --> 115.88] Better.

[116.76 --> 117.32] Worse.

[117.46 --> 117.78] Worse.

[117.90 --> 118.04] Wait.

[118.12 --> 118.64] Third option.

[120.62 --> 122.64] I-D-G-A-F.

[124.06 --> 125.36] I don't care.

[127.44 --> 128.00] F.

[128.86 --> 129.20] Whoa.

[131.08 --> 132.76] I don't care fatso.

[133.46 --> 134.02] Hey.

[134.50 --> 135.34] That's mean.

[136.44 --> 137.60] I resent that.

[137.68 --> 137.80] Okay.

[137.84 --> 138.40] What the heck?

[139.04 --> 139.72] What just happened?

[141.10 --> 141.76] I'm going to refresh.

[141.90 --> 142.46] What is that?

[142.46 --> 143.08] There we go.

[144.40 --> 144.94] All right.

[145.28 --> 147.04] I want to see what Twitch chat has to say.

[150.88 --> 151.48] There we go.

[151.54 --> 152.48] I missed the old set.

[152.68 --> 153.68] I expected that.

[153.80 --> 155.44] I expected a lot of people were going to bring that up.

[156.48 --> 157.26] We fear change.

[158.48 --> 158.80] Yeah.

[158.90 --> 160.78] A lot of people do fear change in general.

[160.90 --> 161.56] What do you think, Ed?

[162.12 --> 162.70] New set?

[162.86 --> 163.32] Old set?

[163.42 --> 163.80] Which one?