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[595.12 --> 599.76] It's just another episode in a series of trust betrayals over the last while, whether that's
[599.76 --> 605.44] iOS rollouts that had all these bugs, or whether it's, what else did they do?
[607.96 --> 608.86] Naming schemes?
[611.70 --> 612.54] Help me out here.
[612.62 --> 617.80] The 10 came out, and while a lot of people do like it, there's a huge amount of issues
[617.80 --> 618.28] with it.
[618.28 --> 621.94] Taking away the headphone jack pissed a lot of people off.
[621.98 --> 622.28] Big one.
[622.50 --> 623.60] Including loyal fans.
[623.80 --> 633.68] I know this is coming from a PC fan and an Android fan, but I feel like sentiment really
[633.68 --> 634.94] isn't there lately.
[635.44 --> 640.86] Back when I used to work in a computer store, you'd have the Mac people come in, and they
[640.86 --> 641.74] were really hardcore.
[641.74 --> 645.14] And I worked with people that were there that were Mac fans, and they were really hardcore.
[645.26 --> 650.38] And it was kind of hard to debate, because it came down to both sides were giving logical
[650.38 --> 650.72] arguments.
[650.90 --> 655.58] It just was that one side put more weight on one thing, and the other side put more weight
[655.58 --> 656.26] on a different thing.
[656.32 --> 656.50] Sure.
[656.58 --> 658.62] So that made it so they liked different things.
[658.72 --> 659.46] It was fine.
[659.52 --> 660.90] It was an interesting battle.
[660.90 --> 668.02] Now it's kind of getting a little worse, because the stuff that they used to trash on, like
[668.02 --> 672.06] PC stuff or Android stuff for, is starting to happen on their side as well.
[672.78 --> 674.76] And then I think that Google's closing the gap.
[674.90 --> 679.56] Now that we have a flagship device that kind of represents Android, being the Google Pixel,
[680.12 --> 681.16] then it's kind of easier.
[681.50 --> 683.98] Although, Apple's still ahead in that.
[683.98 --> 686.48] And we're talking about phones here.
[686.90 --> 689.82] Let's acknowledge, as a Windows user, Windows sucks.
[690.30 --> 692.44] I'm like this close to switching to Mac.
[692.84 --> 694.70] What version of Windows do you run?
[695.92 --> 699.30] I don't think I have the Spring Creators update on my...
[699.30 --> 699.46] But 10?
[699.86 --> 700.22] Oh, yeah.
[700.64 --> 702.12] That might be why.
[702.42 --> 706.36] I shouldn't have to use 2004 software to get a good experience.
[706.38 --> 706.60] I'm just saying.
[706.98 --> 709.74] Like 2018 stuff should be the best stuff.
[709.74 --> 718.90] If you can make it work without being a pirate, you can get the embedded systems Windows 10
[718.90 --> 719.24] version.
[719.42 --> 720.18] It's far better.
[720.74 --> 725.10] Or I would recommend the same situation embedded systems, but you don't have to be a pirate
[725.10 --> 725.60] to get it.
[726.02 --> 727.08] Windows 8.1.
[727.94 --> 728.86] It's just a lot better.
[729.58 --> 729.72] Yeah.
[730.08 --> 733.26] It's one of my favorite things is when you're like, hey, I want to disable Windows update.
[733.32 --> 735.80] And they're like, or no.
[737.48 --> 738.98] It's like, what?
[738.98 --> 740.92] That's not how a computer is supposed to work.
[741.42 --> 743.30] Anyways, I think we're probably good for that topic.
[743.56 --> 745.22] No, there's more interesting things about it.
[745.44 --> 751.32] So in a court filing in the class action case, Apple's lawyers wrote that it's rigorous and
[751.32 --> 756.72] comprehensive reliability test data proved that enclosure bending and twisting cannot
[756.72 --> 762.80] cause the touch disease issue unless the phone had already been repeatedly dropped on
[762.80 --> 763.62] a hard surface.
[763.62 --> 771.70] And I think that's so interesting because what it says to me is like, look, we made a design
[771.70 --> 772.30] choice.
[774.30 --> 779.88] But that choice, like sure, it might cause bending, but it's that choice is not going
[779.88 --> 785.32] to brick your phone and cause this touch disease unless you already screwed up by dropping it
[785.32 --> 785.64] a bunch.
[785.64 --> 791.90] It harkens back to, I believe it was the iPhone 4 circa 2010 where you're holding it wrong.
[792.38 --> 792.74] Is that what you're doing?
[792.76 --> 793.38] Well, I don't know.
[793.60 --> 797.90] It was, they couldn't get good call quality because there was a band of aluminum around
[797.90 --> 798.50] the outside.
[798.66 --> 799.56] So calls were dropping.
[799.56 --> 803.06] And their official response was making phones is hard.
[803.50 --> 807.88] We're really good at it, but no one could make a phone that's perfect.
[808.26 --> 810.24] So we're still the best.
[810.52 --> 811.68] It's just phones are hard.
[811.68 --> 818.24] So what they're doing and they need to do this is they need to continue to promote this
[818.24 --> 824.06] and propagate this like fiction that we all buy into where Apple has superior engineering.
[824.28 --> 827.92] As soon as that myth erodes, then what do they have?
[827.92 --> 828.20] Yeah.
[828.86 --> 833.56] So I think this is very on brand for the lawyers to have this statement.
[833.78 --> 834.32] That stance.
[834.42 --> 834.62] Yeah.
[834.78 --> 835.48] That makes sense.
[837.78 --> 839.70] We're moving on to a hard topic now.
[843.48 --> 847.02] It's something that's difficult to approach in general and people have talked about it.
[847.12 --> 852.94] People have mentioned it in Twitch chat already asking why it wasn't like the first topic.
[853.08 --> 856.98] It wasn't the first topic because I just didn't necessarily think we would lead with this.
[856.98 --> 859.68] I wanted to bring something slightly more upbeat to the table.
[861.18 --> 864.46] We have had this man on the WAN show in the past.
[864.52 --> 867.98] He was one of our guests quite a long time ago when we used to bring a lot more guests on.
[868.56 --> 872.28] But John TotalBiscuitBane has passed away.
[873.58 --> 877.44] He has succumbed to a four-year battle with cancer.
[877.84 --> 879.80] He's just 33 years old.
[879.80 --> 886.66] In the notes, but I'm going to go off notes, is talking about how he contributed a lot to gaming as a whole.
[886.80 --> 888.62] He was really big into the StarCraft II scene.
[889.42 --> 892.70] His YouTube channel was pretty massive in terms of reviews.
[893.10 --> 896.20] If you're in the PC gaming community, you probably know of him.
[896.30 --> 898.04] You've probably seen one of his game reviews.
[898.14 --> 898.92] Especially indie games.
[899.12 --> 900.10] Especially indie games.
[900.20 --> 902.96] That was very cool because I really liked indie games for a long time.
[903.94 --> 907.60] Very few people in the audience might remember this, but I used to have indie game reviews from PAX.
[907.98 --> 910.98] They got no views compared to the rest of our content, so I stopped.