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[1160.56 --> 1161.42] I love the, |
[1161.56 --> 1165.12] this is another one of the like interconnected worlds of the people on the podcast, |
[1165.12 --> 1167.48] because there were things that came up multiple times. |
[1167.48 --> 1173.26] And so Ron and Trammell both overlapped at Sandy labs and worked on firmware and clustering systems. |
[1173.26 --> 1174.00] And I just like, |
[1174.02 --> 1174.62] love the, |
[1174.62 --> 1177.06] the two sides of that story are great. |
[1177.06 --> 1178.66] Like they are great. |
[1178.66 --> 1180.28] And I love having these people that, |
[1180.36 --> 1184.28] that know one another or have worked with one another or have crossed paths in their careers. |
[1184.28 --> 1186.54] I just thought that was so much fun. |
[1186.54 --> 1187.08] And I think, |
[1187.12 --> 1187.76] you know, |
[1187.82 --> 1191.14] so many people that were on the podcast became fans of the podcast, |
[1191.52 --> 1192.24] which was really cool. |
[1192.68 --> 1195.14] Cause I don't think we really told people who else was on it. |
[1195.14 --> 1198.36] We probably could have, |
[1198.42 --> 1198.90] we just like, |
[1198.92 --> 1199.64] it never came up. |
[1200.00 --> 1200.32] Well, |
[1200.36 --> 1204.22] I remember a mirror who we had on a world early. |
[1204.30 --> 1204.82] I think he was our, |
[1204.90 --> 1205.48] maybe our third, |
[1205.48 --> 1207.22] when we were describing the podcast, |
[1207.28 --> 1207.48] he was like, |
[1207.50 --> 1207.62] Oh, |
[1207.62 --> 1208.14] that sounds great. |
[1208.14 --> 1208.30] Like, |
[1208.34 --> 1209.68] I want to listen to all of them right now. |
[1209.68 --> 1209.88] Like, |
[1209.94 --> 1210.16] well, |
[1210.54 --> 1212.06] you are all right now. |
[1212.06 --> 1214.24] So you are the podcast. |
[1214.64 --> 1215.78] We'll have you out there soon. |
[1216.08 --> 1217.04] But I know it was, |
[1217.16 --> 1217.78] that was great. |
[1217.78 --> 1218.34] And, |
[1218.34 --> 1219.74] and listening to that, |
[1219.80 --> 1223.72] cause they basically told Trammell and Ron told the same story, |
[1223.72 --> 1225.74] but from different perspectives. |
[1226.06 --> 1226.24] Yeah. |
[1226.24 --> 1226.82] And they, |
[1227.24 --> 1227.50] right. |
[1227.50 --> 1230.12] They probably had not known that as they were. |
[1230.44 --> 1230.46] No, |
[1230.50 --> 1230.76] it's good. |
[1230.84 --> 1232.18] But I just remember in the show notes, |
[1232.18 --> 1232.54] I was like, |
[1232.58 --> 1232.82] Oh wow, |
[1232.82 --> 1233.62] this is very similar. |
[1233.72 --> 1233.80] Oh, |
[1233.80 --> 1234.28] this is similar. |
[1234.44 --> 1234.66] All right. |
[1234.76 --> 1235.08] Exactly. |
[1235.56 --> 1236.04] Yeah. |
[1238.04 --> 1239.28] Well on a mirror, |
[1239.40 --> 1240.20] that was, |
[1240.32 --> 1241.32] that was another one of mine. |
[1241.44 --> 1241.76] I, |
[1241.76 --> 1242.22] I, |
[1242.22 --> 1242.38] I, |
[1242.38 --> 1242.42] I, |
[1242.42 --> 1242.46] I, |
[1242.46 --> 1243.26] first of all, |
[1243.32 --> 1243.72] just that, |
[1244.20 --> 1245.06] that was fascinating. |
[1245.06 --> 1250.24] Just hearing kind of his story and how he kind of moved through building |
[1250.24 --> 1250.72] hardware, |
[1250.72 --> 1251.50] you know, |
[1251.50 --> 1255.58] with cork boards and bread racks and DRAM swept off the floor that |
[1255.58 --> 1258.68] software would try and correct when it failed and his, |
[1258.84 --> 1263.94] his background and then kind of moving into this desire towards better |
[1263.94 --> 1267.84] efficiency and systems and that kind of guiding a lot of his career and, |
[1267.84 --> 1268.12] you know, |
[1268.12 --> 1269.44] starting OCP and, |
[1269.62 --> 1269.72] you know, |
[1269.74 --> 1271.14] being one of the founding members of OCP. |
[1271.14 --> 1272.54] And what was really, |
[1272.70 --> 1273.72] really interesting was, |
[1273.90 --> 1274.54] you know, |
[1274.54 --> 1275.94] a lot of folks, |
[1275.94 --> 1280.34] at least in the industry and the commercial world are after performance |
[1280.34 --> 1283.52] and efficiency for commercial reasons or deliver a faster system to |
[1283.52 --> 1283.92] customers. |
[1283.92 --> 1285.68] And I want to lower cost. |
[1285.68 --> 1289.08] And I think one of the kind of the core drivers for him that, |
[1289.22 --> 1291.52] that really resonated was how do we, |
[1291.68 --> 1294.72] how do we become more efficiency and more efficient in the planet? |
[1294.82 --> 1296.26] Like how do we actually reduce emissions? |
[1296.26 --> 1300.82] How do we start being less wasteful in terms of all these machines that |
[1300.82 --> 1301.56] are inefficient, |
[1301.74 --> 1302.32] underutilized, |
[1302.44 --> 1302.74] et cetera. |
[1302.74 --> 1308.70] And that kind of driving his startup and his passion and what he really cares |
[1308.70 --> 1309.04] about, |
[1309.54 --> 1311.40] less about the commercial implications of these things. |
[1311.58 --> 1311.72] Yeah. |
[1311.78 --> 1312.26] And I mean, |
[1312.32 --> 1315.12] you could really tell that this is something he felt very earnestly. |
[1315.34 --> 1315.54] Yeah. |
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