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[1051.26 --> 1054.38] The de-Google-ification challenge. |
[1054.68 --> 1056.76] I need to come up with a better name than that, don't I? |
[1057.20 --> 1058.12] Well, I don't know. |
[1058.20 --> 1060.98] I actually kind of like it because I know what you mean immediately. |
[1061.86 --> 1062.12] Yeah. |
[1062.30 --> 1067.32] So the idea is I'm not going to be able to just cold turkey drop Google from my life, |
[1067.32 --> 1071.28] because I use Gmail and I have done for 15 years or however long. |
[1071.80 --> 1074.08] I've been using it a long time since the beta anyway. |
[1074.86 --> 1076.30] I use Google Photos a lot. |
[1076.44 --> 1079.80] I use Google, you know, it's going to be tricky. |
[1079.90 --> 1081.78] I'm not going to, I'm not going to pull any punches. |
[1081.92 --> 1082.80] It's going to be very difficult. |
[1082.80 --> 1085.62] But the idea is one day a week, |
[1085.94 --> 1088.98] I am going to go completely cold turkey from Google. |
[1089.16 --> 1090.56] That's, you know, DuckDuckGo. |
[1091.14 --> 1093.48] That's, you know, a self-hosted note service, |
[1093.58 --> 1097.02] a self-hosted photo service, completely no Google Photo backup. |
[1097.02 --> 1098.06] Et cetera, et cetera. |
[1098.18 --> 1098.70] No Gmail. |
[1099.68 --> 1101.52] And no Android. |
[1102.00 --> 1105.02] Well, technically I'm going to be using Lineage OS. |
[1105.30 --> 1114.04] And I think the only thing that I will allow in terms of de-Google-ifying is the micro G apps thing through. |
[1114.04 --> 1118.18] So for the very first iteration of this, |
[1118.36 --> 1120.82] it'll probably be in episode 53. |
[1121.22 --> 1122.06] This is 51. |
[1122.32 --> 1125.82] Just because I'm going to Denver next week to see you two fine gentlemen. |
[1126.38 --> 1129.22] And I probably won't have time to do the full research on this. |
[1129.30 --> 1131.20] But I have an old OnePlus 6 in a drawer. |
[1131.54 --> 1136.04] I'm going to designate that as my de-Google-ify device. |
[1137.08 --> 1137.60] What do you think? |
[1138.00 --> 1138.30] Hmm. |
[1138.66 --> 1140.14] I mean, I love this idea. |
[1140.74 --> 1142.08] I have an Android device. |
[1142.20 --> 1143.10] It's a Pixel 3. |
[1143.80 --> 1151.58] But I've always struggled with replacing the ROM on there because the reason I have it is to kind of know what the Google experience is like. |
[1152.04 --> 1153.20] But I'd be down for it. |
[1153.32 --> 1154.50] I'd give it a try. |
[1155.84 --> 1157.82] I feel like there's – I'm trying to run through my head. |
[1157.82 --> 1167.20] My biggest area and where I worry this is going to lead to is I use Google apps for Jupyter Broadcasting for like email and calendar and stuff like that. |
[1167.66 --> 1169.76] And I think it's kind of a decent service. |
[1170.12 --> 1171.02] I hate to say it. |
[1171.34 --> 1171.82] Oh, right. |
[1172.04 --> 1172.44] Calendar. |
[1172.94 --> 1174.50] Oh, I'd forgotten about calendar. |
[1174.62 --> 1176.02] I use that all the time. |
[1176.44 --> 1178.24] Even stupid stuff like contacts. |
[1178.36 --> 1181.42] You kind of forget that they're just managing my contacts for me on that, you know? |
[1181.82 --> 1182.52] Oh, gentlemen. |
[1182.70 --> 1184.08] You guys are so behind the times. |
[1184.38 --> 1185.14] Oh, what? |
[1185.42 --> 1186.64] You all in the next cloud over there? |
[1186.64 --> 1190.90] Well, I ran through this very experiment many years ago. |
[1191.14 --> 1191.70] I'll have you know. |
[1191.96 --> 1193.94] Could you sound any more smug right now? |
[1194.48 --> 1201.02] Well, it's only because you guys are both typically far ahead of me in most other realms. |
[1201.32 --> 1203.68] He's enjoying this moment too much, Alex. |
[1203.86 --> 1205.50] He's enjoying this. |
[1206.68 --> 1207.40] Well, good. |
[1207.44 --> 1208.08] I want to hear it. |
[1208.32 --> 1209.82] I did a similar challenge. |
[1210.40 --> 1212.40] I didn't have anyone else to challenge. |
[1212.66 --> 1213.82] I just challenged myself. |
[1213.82 --> 1217.94] And I will say it's been actually a few years now. |
[1218.16 --> 1220.54] I think two, two and a half, something like that. |
[1221.22 --> 1224.68] And Nextcloud, I will say, is the underpinning of most of it. |
[1224.96 --> 1229.18] Most of the hard stuff, which was calendaring and context syncing. |
[1229.68 --> 1233.44] You know, when it comes to file syncing, I can figure that out in a whole bunch of different ways. |
[1233.44 --> 1238.14] But I will strongly encourage you both to take it pretty seriously. |
[1238.14 --> 1248.38] Because on the other side is a fairly liberating feeling to know that you have control of all of your own deeply personal information. |
[1248.68 --> 1249.96] I mean, something like contacts. |
[1249.96 --> 1262.92] If you think about the people you know and the sensitive information that's in there, it's a little bit surprising to think about what might happen if that got into someone else's hands that would like to mix up your life a little bit. |
[1263.26 --> 1264.94] Well, you heard it here first, ladies and gentlemen. |
[1265.14 --> 1267.60] Brent is our de-googlification referee. |
[1268.10 --> 1268.34] Yeah. |
[1268.78 --> 1275.20] He'll be our correspondent in the de-googled universe, reporting live from an alternative universe. |
[1275.20 --> 1278.56] So the thing is, I mean, there's so many things to this. |
[1278.74 --> 1279.58] There's Maps. |
[1279.98 --> 1281.96] There's Google Maps is so priceless. |
[1282.76 --> 1283.12] Maps. |
[1284.38 --> 1285.12] Oh, no. |
[1285.36 --> 1285.72] I know. |
[1286.36 --> 1289.44] And you could, like, if you're on the iPhone, you could use Apple Maps. |
[1289.70 --> 1290.14] You could. |
[1290.84 --> 1292.32] And in the RV, I've got a Garmin. |
[1292.62 --> 1301.86] But I tell you what, when I get to a new town, and, like, legitimately has happened several times on this road trip, I trust Google Maps to have the most up-to-date information. |
[1302.58 --> 1304.36] That's going to be really hard for me to kick. |
[1304.36 --> 1305.88] I really haven't thought this through. |
[1305.96 --> 1307.40] This is going to be so hard. |
[1307.66 --> 1311.84] Well, I can give you a few pointers based on what I've gone through. |
[1312.04 --> 1313.32] Are you not using Google Maps? |
[1313.64 --> 1317.96] Well, so that's a really good example of, I think, the concept I'm about to explain. |
[1318.12 --> 1318.26] Okay. |
[1318.62 --> 1326.96] And so I'll start with saying that I use the exact same concept with my dietary choices. |
[1326.96 --> 1330.60] So when people say, oh, how do you eat, Brent? |
[1330.68 --> 1338.64] I say, well, I'm, like, trying my very best to eat as vegan as possible, but that never always works out. |
[1338.64 --> 1349.16] So what I would say for you both in de-Google-fying is you'll never likely get to 100%, and you need to be okay with that. |
[1349.16 --> 1370.26] Because if you can do it even 80%, 90%, 95% of the time and only rely on Google in certain instances, maybe when Maps in Google has the only updated information on this new ring road around your city and nobody else does or something like that, then I think you're already making a massive differe... |
[1370.26 --> 1374.44] And you shouldn't feel bad about that 5% or whatever it may be. |
[1374.82 --> 1374.94] Amen. |
[1375.30 --> 1376.08] Yeah, absolutely. |
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