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[2695.14 --> 2697.78] Actually, my parents' home right now, we didn't do this.
[2697.88 --> 2700.12] But there's Ethernet run to every toilet.
[2700.96 --> 2704.92] You know, just in case you need the best speeds possible.
[2704.92 --> 2707.64] I don't know why, but I love that idea, actually.
[2707.78 --> 2709.28] I think I see nothing wrong with that.
[2709.64 --> 2710.38] That seems reasonable.
[2711.92 --> 2713.98] But it turns out they never get used.
[2714.54 --> 2723.14] And nothing ever gets plugged in because the Wi-Fi, even in the basement, is good enough for most of the activities that ever happen in that home.
[2723.28 --> 2730.82] So I would use some imagination and think about where Wi-Fi is going to be in the next, you know, five to ten years and think about if the cost is worth it.
[2730.82 --> 2734.94] I know there are people tapping in their keyboards furiously right now.
[2735.14 --> 2735.92] Run Conduit.
[2736.68 --> 2739.62] And I think that's probably the best future-proof thing you can do.
[2739.80 --> 2740.00] Right.
[2740.06 --> 2745.36] Is to make sure there's plenty of Conduit so you can upgrade the cables later without having to fish through walls.
[2745.94 --> 2748.02] Jonas writes in along the same line.
[2748.14 --> 2750.16] He says, I know you guys talk about networking a lot.
[2750.74 --> 2752.24] We're renovating our house.
[2752.24 --> 2755.12] We ran Cat7 cables almost to every room.
[2755.26 --> 2759.38] But we've discovered, to Brent's point, we're still using Wi-Fi a ton.
[2759.82 --> 2764.08] And so now I'm looking at what are the right APs and switches to use here.
[2764.36 --> 2768.92] I heard you guys mention recently that you don't think you'd recommend Unify gear anymore.
[2769.32 --> 2770.30] So now I'm kind of stuck.
[2770.38 --> 2771.54] Do I go with cheap stuff?
[2771.62 --> 2772.44] Do I do unmanaged?
[2772.50 --> 2773.58] Do I do managed switches?
[2774.12 --> 2778.80] You know, I'm looking for stuff in the range of maybe $1,000, somewhere in there.
[2779.18 --> 2781.10] Slightly professional gear, but not too crazy.
[2781.10 --> 2782.70] And he wants to know if we have any recommendations.
[2783.26 --> 2784.44] This is a good point.
[2784.50 --> 2787.08] Like, what do you do if you want really great Wi-Fi right now?
[2787.36 --> 2794.86] I mean, the reality of the situation is I bought the Unify access point I'm looking at right now from my desk in 2015.
[2795.12 --> 2799.78] And it has just done the job extremely well since then.
[2800.02 --> 2805.30] Despite all of Unify's wackiness with their policies over the last year or two,
[2805.30 --> 2811.10] the hardware and the performance of what I put in has just been great.
[2811.44 --> 2813.58] I can't really fault the actual device.
[2813.94 --> 2817.40] So with regards to would I purchase it again?
[2817.86 --> 2819.76] I'm already in the Unify ecosystem.
[2820.16 --> 2822.72] The pragmatist in me is going, yes, I probably would.
[2822.76 --> 2825.10] If I needed a third access point in this house, for example,
[2825.34 --> 2828.52] just to make sure it all meshed and talked together properly,
[2829.10 --> 2830.50] I'd probably just buy another one.
[2830.50 --> 2835.90] I know that TP-Link makes some good devices, and Jim Salter's written about those on Ars Technica a little bit.
[2836.50 --> 2841.46] There are lots of people over at smallnetbuilder.com that regularly review this stuff.
[2841.54 --> 2847.10] So if you're looking at what the best mesh system is or the best Ethernet backhaul system is,
[2847.36 --> 2850.52] that's where I'd go for all that advice rather than listening to what I know.
[2851.46 --> 2855.10] Now, I won't pretend to be an expert, but I do know some people who are.
[2855.10 --> 2866.10] And I will notably say my older brother, Chris, he very, very, very strongly recommends the MicroTik hardware and software in this area.
[2866.58 --> 2876.16] He's explored a bunch of it, and he has been very happy over many years with just how powerful their software is,
[2876.26 --> 2878.68] but also how it can be simple if you need it to be.
[2879.08 --> 2884.82] And the software that's available is their professional software that gets sent to all of their devices.
[2884.82 --> 2888.16] So even if you buy their low-end hardware, you get the same software.
[2888.38 --> 2889.92] So I would recommend looking into that.
[2890.06 --> 2895.98] I can't make any specific recommendations, but when I asked him, that's what he told me.
[2896.16 --> 2897.34] So passing that along.
[2897.98 --> 2899.70] This is an area I'd love to hear what people are using.
[2899.90 --> 2903.78] What are you actually using out there, and how has it worked for you?
[2903.96 --> 2907.02] Because I'm also trying to find something else.
[2907.02 --> 2916.38] And there's so many mesh options out there, but I think all of them, if I'm not mistaken, require cloud connectivity or some sort of cloud account.
[2917.04 --> 2918.30] And I just don't want any of that.
[2919.52 --> 2923.70] Unify, I feel like I've already made that concession once before for the stuff we have in the studio.
[2923.96 --> 2924.42] So, okay.
[2924.98 --> 2926.36] That's already a concession I've made.
[2926.48 --> 2927.64] But I'd love some tips.
[2928.10 --> 2930.44] And if you're sticking with Unify, I'd love to know why, too.
[2930.96 --> 2932.48] Selfhosted.show slash contact.
[2932.48 --> 2936.60] And did you see that The Grand Tour aired an episode this week in Scotland?
[2937.18 --> 2938.42] We watched it on the road, actually.
[2938.88 --> 2941.50] As a family, we all sat down and watched it and had a great time.
[2941.56 --> 2943.64] It was more of like a classic episode, I felt, Alex.
[2943.66 --> 2944.64] Did you get that sense?
[2944.96 --> 2950.90] Yeah, for my stag do, actually, a buddy of mine and my dad, we rented three cars.
[2951.08 --> 2955.44] And we did our own mini Top Gear road trip from Edinburgh, actually.
[2955.48 --> 2957.06] We started in Edinburgh and finished in Edinburgh.
[2957.06 --> 2966.12] But in the intervening three or four days, we went up to Inverness, drove down the side of Loch Ness, out to the Isle of Skye, and then back through the Trossax.
[2966.26 --> 2972.56] And, oh, man, I tell you what, Scotland has some of the best driving roads, not cliche, in the world.
[2972.76 --> 2974.38] It was just a phenomenal trip.
[2974.72 --> 2983.92] And to watch that episode feeling as homesick as I am at the moment, you know, dude, it was just so perfectly timed.
[2984.48 --> 2985.78] Yeah, they really made it beautiful, too.
[2985.78 --> 2988.34] So, yeah, those had to be some of the same roads, right?
[2988.48 --> 2989.58] Some of them were, yeah.
[2989.82 --> 2999.62] And I'll tell you what brought me onto this topic was I've been looking at mechanical keyboards lately, and I came across a podcast named Top Clack, you know, like Top Gear.
[2999.92 --> 3001.00] I just thought that was fun.
[3001.38 --> 3003.82] TopClack.com if you're a MEC keyboard enthusiast.
[3004.20 --> 3005.08] Oh, my goodness.
[3005.22 --> 3006.12] There is a podcast.
[3006.42 --> 3007.04] Are you kidding me?
[3007.12 --> 3007.88] Of course there is.
[3007.96 --> 3008.84] Why am I surprised at all?
[3009.14 --> 3010.08] Why am I surprised by that?
[3010.10 --> 3011.10] I shouldn't be surprised by that.
[3011.20 --> 3013.24] Almost everyone we've met on this trip has had a podcast.
[3013.70 --> 3014.64] That's true, actually.
[3014.64 --> 3019.28] I was listening to your podcasting adventures about concrete in Idaho, so.
[3019.68 --> 3019.90] Yeah.
[3021.00 --> 3027.44] We did a couple of micro meetups, and we had a group of five at one of them, and literally every single person there had a podcast.
[3027.84 --> 3031.80] Then we did the Salt Lake City meetup, and there was a handful of people there that had a podcast.
[3032.30 --> 3033.72] It's the influence you both had.
[3034.92 --> 3035.76] I don't know.
[3036.22 --> 3037.56] I don't know, but it was pretty crazy.
[3037.56 --> 3046.46] And Brent joined you for episode 418 of Linux Unplugged, where there was an absolutely excellent rundown of WireGuard user interfaces.