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[630.20 --> 635.24] There is a slightly older version of the firmware for V2
[635.24 --> 637.24] that is compatible with the bridge.
[637.38 --> 640.16] But if you use the latest firmware for V2,
[640.68 --> 641.56] it doesn't work.
[641.56 --> 646.82] And that actually holds true for some instances of the V3 model too.
[646.90 --> 648.22] So there's a version that does work
[648.22 --> 649.92] and there's a version that doesn't work with the V3
[649.92 --> 651.90] and the pan camera as well.
[652.28 --> 653.92] Anyways, the links in the show notes,
[654.02 --> 655.40] you do need to check into that
[655.40 --> 659.34] because I may have a really old firmware.
[659.60 --> 660.60] And so I'm going to have a hard time
[660.60 --> 663.12] getting just the right compatible firmware in some cases,
[663.26 --> 665.20] but they have all the information you need.
[665.92 --> 668.80] Back in episode 48, we talked about the Pi KVM,
[668.80 --> 671.36] you know, that wonderful Raspberry Pi
[671.36 --> 677.22] that captures HDMI and basically acts like a BMC KVM type thing.
[677.64 --> 678.44] Well, good news.
[678.62 --> 682.34] Their version 3 hat has finally entered Kickstarter mode.
[682.86 --> 684.52] It is a little pricey.
[684.78 --> 688.24] So the main hat, which doesn't include a Raspberry Pi,
[688.80 --> 690.12] costs $145.
[690.52 --> 693.38] So by the time you've added a Pi as well and a case,
[693.38 --> 696.02] it's going to be north of $200.
[697.20 --> 699.16] But you do get a lot of useful stuff in there,
[699.22 --> 702.34] like a USB-C bridge and CSI, you know, cables,
[702.44 --> 703.18] all that kind of stuff.
[703.94 --> 706.82] Now, Wendell's done a video about this on his channel on YouTube.
[707.20 --> 707.86] So if you're curious,
[707.90 --> 709.80] you can go and find out more about it over there.
[710.72 --> 712.12] I do wonder about the price.
[712.14 --> 713.04] And what do you think, Chris,
[713.24 --> 715.06] at that sort of $200 level?
[715.06 --> 717.56] Is that too much?
[718.40 --> 720.10] So it looks like right now on Kickstarter,
[720.50 --> 723.90] it's $145 and you'd get it by October 2021,
[724.20 --> 725.72] which seems pretty reasonable to me.
[726.28 --> 731.42] The price is, yeah, it feels high for a hat.
[732.10 --> 734.72] Now, I think the price is a little more reasonable
[734.72 --> 736.16] if you make the assumption
[736.16 --> 738.54] that just about everybody already has a Raspberry Pi 4
[738.54 --> 740.80] that would want to use something like this, right?
[740.80 --> 743.40] If you're going to use a Raspberry Pi-powered
[743.40 --> 745.92] keyboard video mouse switcher,
[745.92 --> 748.80] you probably already got a couple of Pis laying around.
[749.26 --> 749.98] So I don't think,
[750.18 --> 751.50] I think you just kind of null that out
[751.50 --> 752.90] because that's already a sunk cost.
[753.00 --> 754.62] And so it really is just the $145.
[755.30 --> 758.34] Now, you tell me, Alex, like how solid is this?
[758.40 --> 760.60] Is this, are you still using it?
[760.66 --> 763.72] Is it worth $145 now that you've used it for a bit?
[764.84 --> 768.72] I'm thinking I probably couldn't get a good KVM at that price.
[769.18 --> 769.92] I probably couldn't.
[770.02 --> 772.50] So I'd have to go with your word though,
[772.50 --> 773.14] if it's worth that.
[773.44 --> 775.86] Well, I'll tell you what I'm comparing it to in my mind, at least.
[775.92 --> 779.40] And that is a motherboard with IPMI built in.
[779.78 --> 783.34] So I'm actually going back to England in a couple of weeks
[783.34 --> 786.44] to go and introduce granddaughter to grandparents.
[786.96 --> 788.32] So hello, if you're listening.
[789.12 --> 790.38] And as part of that, I was thinking,
[790.48 --> 791.82] well, it would be nice to upgrade my,
[791.98 --> 794.26] you know, nearly 10 year old server in England
[794.26 --> 795.78] with a slightly more modern motherboard
[795.78 --> 797.90] and a slightly more modern IPMI implementation
[797.90 --> 799.42] that isn't based around Java.
[799.42 --> 805.64] And an eighth gen motherboard costs me around $150,
[806.28 --> 808.72] give or take, depending on the features that I want.
[809.06 --> 811.56] And I was looking at some ASRock rack stuff,
[811.80 --> 814.96] which thanks to, you know, the current chip shortage
[814.96 --> 818.70] seems to be in the $300, $250 to $300 range.
[818.70 --> 821.40] And so if I look at that and think,
[821.52 --> 826.48] I've got a built-in IPMI directly on the motherboard
[826.48 --> 829.56] that I know is going to be absolutely rock solid
[829.56 --> 831.64] versus an external device,
[831.74 --> 834.68] which in my experience has been good,
[834.76 --> 836.38] but it's still an external device.
[836.50 --> 837.82] And, you know, it's another power supply.
[837.98 --> 840.44] It's another operating system to keep updated,
[840.68 --> 841.52] et cetera, et cetera,
[841.52 --> 844.18] which in some respects could be a good thing.
[844.18 --> 846.00] In other respects could be a bad thing.
[846.72 --> 848.68] So the cost is kind of a wash, you know,
[848.72 --> 850.56] it's about the same to get a built-in
[850.56 --> 852.36] versus this external unit.
[853.88 --> 855.46] Probably just go for the built-in one,
[855.60 --> 856.58] to be honest with you.
[857.36 --> 861.06] Except for the fact that this Pi version
[861.06 --> 862.98] using the HDMI switch,
[863.14 --> 865.54] which is linked in the blog post in episode 48
[865.54 --> 868.38] that I talked about in that episode,
[869.00 --> 870.78] I've actually got three devices
[870.78 --> 873.08] hanging off this single Pi.
[873.08 --> 875.10] And that has actually worked really, really well.
[875.30 --> 877.66] So if you're able to spit that $150
[877.66 --> 879.74] between three devices,
[880.18 --> 882.68] suddenly that tips the scales quite a bit.
[883.30 --> 883.50] Hmm.
[883.92 --> 885.38] I also could see some value in there