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[600.18 --> 602.64] types of connectors and they had SCSI on the Mac.
[602.64 --> 608.44] And then USB came along and it was like a minimum base set of standards of connectivity
[608.44 --> 609.64] that everything supported.
[610.24 --> 611.84] And then vendors would build on top of that.
[611.90 --> 613.86] And they will just like that with Matter as well.
[613.86 --> 619.06] But you kind of just at least had a few fundamentals that everybody agreed on with USB.
[619.24 --> 622.62] And it really took things to the next level when it comes to plugging devices into your
[622.62 --> 622.96] computer.
[623.42 --> 627.94] And he thinks, and I hope he's right, that that's what Matter will be for IoT devices
[627.94 --> 628.40] in the home.
[628.98 --> 634.68] As long as we don't end up with a USB-C style USB implementation, then we'll be okay.
[635.24 --> 638.36] Yeah, something tells me it's going to be a lot more like USB-C, Alex.
[638.96 --> 639.24] Huh.
[639.62 --> 643.24] Well, that's a pretty good motivation for me to actually get off my duff and get my Zigbee
[643.24 --> 644.04] radio set up.
[644.18 --> 648.14] Even if I don't have many Zigbee devices, I could get rid of my Hughes Bridge, save a
[648.14 --> 648.54] little power.
[649.48 --> 649.76] Okay.
[649.88 --> 653.44] So while we're kind of getting close to it, you know, we got to talk about it.
[653.44 --> 655.62] You can almost feel it in the air, Black Friday.
[655.98 --> 657.46] It's like a holiday for you.
[658.02 --> 660.66] And I know you're always getting ready to shuck drives.
[660.80 --> 664.06] For those of you who maybe are new to the show and you don't know, this is what Alex
[664.06 --> 664.42] loves to do.
[664.48 --> 668.42] He loves to get a great price on like a large external drive because, you know, sometimes
[668.42 --> 669.80] they'll put some real monsters in there.
[669.80 --> 674.72] And then you shuck the external case and you load it up in your file server or something
[674.72 --> 675.10] like that.
[675.16 --> 676.88] So I imagine you must be getting prepared.
[677.44 --> 678.92] Here's my methodology, right?
[679.16 --> 679.42] Okay.
[679.62 --> 684.82] When I emigrated, I purchased about 10, 10 terabyte hard drives.
[685.74 --> 690.56] And they were all purchased on the same week from, you know, the three or four different
[690.56 --> 693.92] best buys that we have in Raleigh because it was a limit of two or three per customer.
[693.92 --> 695.12] So I was like, screw that.
[695.12 --> 697.76] I'm just going to go and drive to the next one and buy two more over there.
[698.92 --> 701.40] So I'm a little bit concerned about the bathtub curve.
[702.56 --> 707.24] For those that don't know what that is, typically a drive will fail either right at the beginning
[707.24 --> 713.04] of its life or right at the end of its life, you know, be that three, four, five, six years,
[713.10 --> 713.62] whatever it is.
[714.14 --> 718.30] But given that these drives have been exposed to the same environment, you know, they've all
[718.30 --> 719.92] been in the same case, the same temperatures.
[719.92 --> 726.50] They've been exposed to the same, you know, manufacturing potential problems.
[726.60 --> 728.66] They've all got the same firmwares, et cetera, et cetera.
[729.20 --> 737.36] The chances if one or two go, that all 10 go seems higher to me than if I was to spread
[737.36 --> 737.70] it out.
[738.48 --> 740.48] Yeah, you're definitely going to, if you have one failure, you're probably going to have
[740.48 --> 741.56] a couple of failures at least.
[742.02 --> 742.56] At least.
[742.70 --> 742.88] Yeah.
[742.88 --> 748.38] So what I'm doing to kind of mitigate that is my primary media server, like I say, has
[748.38 --> 749.54] 10 drives in it.
[749.76 --> 751.12] Two are used for a ZFS mirror.
[751.56 --> 756.96] One is used for SnapRaid parity, which leaves me seven drives for actual data.
[757.50 --> 760.34] I've got a mixture now of 10 terabytes and 12 terabytes in there.
[760.36 --> 765.96] So it's somewhere in the region of 70 to 80 terabytes of raw, actual usable storage.
[765.96 --> 771.74] So I'm not really hurting for space, but I've kind of set a benchmark of 200 bucks per drive
[771.74 --> 778.24] as my kind of line in the sand to say, right, I'm not spending more than 200 per whatever
[778.24 --> 780.34] size drive I can buy for that.
[780.86 --> 782.18] That's what I'll buy this year.
[782.82 --> 786.32] And obviously there are some considerations with that because with ZFS, you have to have
[786.32 --> 787.46] the same size drives.
[788.32 --> 792.30] Mismatched drives, you will lose a couple of terabytes here, a couple of terabytes there
[792.30 --> 793.12] if you're not careful.
[793.12 --> 801.04] And with SnapRaid as well, the parity disk has to be as big or bigger than the largest
[801.04 --> 801.66] data disk.
[802.30 --> 806.78] So every time I change capacities, I've got to factor that into my mind.
[807.56 --> 812.68] And so when I'm looking at what do I buy, I think, well, I have 10 drives.
[813.34 --> 817.60] In my experience, hard drives last for about five years.
[818.12 --> 821.20] Why don't I just buy two drives every year?
[821.20 --> 826.90] And then that way, when I upgrade the parity drive, I actually also get a nice bump on my
[826.90 --> 827.96] data disks as well.
[828.58 --> 833.94] And then I can retire the existing drive to either go into my backup server, which is part
[833.94 --> 838.68] of my home lab, or I can just wipe them and sell them on eBay for a few pennies.
[839.56 --> 847.62] This year, I was able to pick up a couple of 14 terabyte easy stores from Best Buy for $200
[847.62 --> 848.48] a pop.
[848.48 --> 848.92] Wow.
[850.36 --> 851.10] That's great.
[851.80 --> 853.58] Now, these are three and a half inch drives.
[854.26 --> 854.38] Yeah.
[854.42 --> 855.16] Well, I mean, they come.
[855.62 --> 857.38] It's just really annoying, to be honest.
[857.52 --> 863.06] I wish they would just sell these drives without the USB casing on them, but they don't.
[863.26 --> 864.58] So, hey, here we are.
[865.02 --> 870.34] What happens is you buy a retail box from Best Buy, and it has a big plastic shell around
[870.34 --> 876.38] the drives with a USB to SATA conversion drive and a power supply.
[876.68 --> 880.56] And I've got to imagine there's quite a few dollars worth of extra cost in assembling these
[880.56 --> 884.26] things, putting them in a nice fancy case with a power supply, etc.
[884.26 --> 890.12] Why not just pass the saving on to me and say, look, this is a drive that was destined for
[890.12 --> 890.82] an easy store.
[891.04 --> 894.98] Have it, but it's 20% cheaper than the retail model or something.
[895.08 --> 895.42] I don't know.
[895.42 --> 897.82] There's got to be a business reason, right?
[897.94 --> 899.76] Somebody out there listening must know.
[899.92 --> 900.32] Let us know.
[900.40 --> 901.74] Self-hosted.show slash contact.
[902.10 --> 903.92] Why won't they just sell us these drives directly?
[905.00 --> 909.66] I think it probably boils down to the fact that they know that the warranty claims are
[909.66 --> 912.36] going to be less from people that have shucked drives.
[913.04 --> 917.48] Because, you know, you've got to take a few guitar picks and break some of the plastic tabs