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[1796.28 --> 1798.94] And it has native iOS and Android apps. |
[1798.94 --> 1803.50] And it promises to be what, like, several different note-taking apps are all in one place. |
[1803.54 --> 1807.34] And, of course, it has team integration and business stuff and all of that. |
[1807.38 --> 1808.12] But it's a service. |
[1808.22 --> 1809.70] It's not something you can run yourself. |
[1810.68 --> 1817.38] And you know as well as I do that you probably have fragments of notes in about eight different apps that you've tried over the last 10 years. |
[1817.96 --> 1818.20] Yep. |
[1818.68 --> 1825.00] And getting the data out of these proprietary services is just very difficult, you know. |
[1825.00 --> 1829.84] And the thing that I really love about Obsidian, there's lots of others coming up as well. |
[1829.90 --> 1832.52] There's one called LogSec, S-E-Q. |
[1832.70 --> 1834.04] Go and have a look at that if you're interested. |
[1834.70 --> 1839.08] But the thing I love about Obsidian is it does everything in markdown files. |
[1839.70 --> 1840.14] There you go. |
[1840.80 --> 1841.24] Boomsies. |
[1842.18 --> 1845.12] So is it storing them just all on the file system locally? |
[1845.54 --> 1847.58] In plain text on your disk. |
[1847.72 --> 1847.92] Yep. |
[1847.92 --> 1859.58] So it really even has Joplin beat in that regard because for some reason, and this pisses me off because Joplin is so close, it scrambles the file names in Joplin. |
[1859.70 --> 1867.28] Like, if you've ever looked at the plain text files on disk from Joplin, it's just, you know, it's 32 characters of complete gibberish. |
[1867.62 --> 1869.82] And it's so close. |
[1869.94 --> 1870.94] Joplin is so close. |
[1870.98 --> 1872.40] But if they fix that one thing. |
[1874.50 --> 1877.36] They're like ID, database ID file names or something. |
[1877.92 --> 1881.98] But it sounds like you're kind of cooking something that's a little more complete even. |
[1882.14 --> 1884.62] That's like web component, search component, all of that. |
[1885.10 --> 1885.30] Yeah. |
[1885.30 --> 1891.54] The really nice thing about Notion is that there's a little checkbox you can select in the corner that says, make this note public. |
[1892.14 --> 1899.02] And when I was working on my photography article for Ars Technica a few months ago, I really gave Notion a full try just to get the experience. |
[1899.34 --> 1902.20] And I've got to say, it was fantastic, actually. |
[1902.20 --> 1913.08] I mean, apart from the fact that my data is now hostage in that system, the fact that I could share notes with, you know, the editors at Ars and they could, you know, make comments. |
[1913.18 --> 1921.10] And it was like, it was like Google Docs, but on steroids because I could, it's hard to explain, but I really, really enjoyed the experience. |
[1921.10 --> 1927.50] I could definitely see that, especially in working, you know, with like an outlet, like publishing for sure. |
[1927.66 --> 1928.96] So something like that would be great. |
[1929.32 --> 1934.12] And I could version things and it had an iOS app and, you know, lots of good reasons. |
[1934.60 --> 1939.62] So I'm pairing Obsidian with, you know, just creates a directory of markdown files. |
[1939.62 --> 1946.94] I've mentioned this on the show before, but mkdocs just reads a directory of markdown files to create a self-hosted wiki. |
[1947.60 --> 1954.16] But to connect the two in the middle, you probably want some kind of a continuous integration build system thing. |
[1954.76 --> 1959.16] And for that, I've been trying out something called Drone connected with Git T lately. |
[1959.62 --> 1968.72] And I'll go into full details probably in the next episode, but definitely in a blog post over the next two weeks explaining how I go about connecting the two. |
[1968.72 --> 1976.82] I've actually already written the first part of that blog post series, which is how to connect mkdocs and drone CI together. |
[1977.46 --> 1984.20] So the next part will be how I use a couple of plugins in mkdocs to really make some of the cool stuff in Obsidian, |
[1984.36 --> 1990.04] like the wiki linking and the backlinking stuff, all kind of work as part of the website as well. |
[1990.46 --> 1991.44] It's really slick. |
[1991.58 --> 1996.28] I've been using it for the last few days since the weekend to document which hard drives in which slot, |
[1996.28 --> 1999.92] which Zigbee button I've put in which room, all this kind of stuff. |
[2000.08 --> 2007.62] And I am really, for the first time, feeling like this might be a long-term wiki solution that I can use, my wife can actually use. |
[2007.82 --> 2010.82] I'm really pretty jazzed on this one, to be honest. |
[2011.26 --> 2013.18] Well, then I look forward to hearing more about it. |
[2013.52 --> 2017.10] You gave me a little demonstration before the show, and it is very cool. |
[2017.10 --> 2022.16] And what I like about the entire pipeline is you keep the data on your land the entire time. |
[2022.42 --> 2027.38] So it is something I could replicate and use off-grid, which is something I'm always looking for. |
[2028.46 --> 2029.16] Absolutely, yeah. |
[2029.30 --> 2033.20] And you've got the website component, so you can pull it up on your phone, wherever you are. |
[2034.00 --> 2036.04] You know, a lot of these note-taking apps. |
[2036.14 --> 2037.52] Emacs is a perfect example. |
[2038.40 --> 2040.38] Doing that on mobile is just a train wreck. |
[2040.38 --> 2044.64] You know, and Obsidian has an iOS app, as I mentioned. |
[2045.36 --> 2048.38] I think they're working on a Google Play version of the app as well. |
[2049.18 --> 2055.56] And obviously, I've got Obsidian on the desktop, so I can do my editing in a real first-class editor, |
[2056.12 --> 2063.18] unlike some kind of random wiki software, which is honestly where things like TiddlyWiki have fallen down for me, |
[2063.20 --> 2065.86] as the editor just doesn't do it. |
[2065.86 --> 2070.16] I still use TiddlyWiki, and I've got a lot of useful information in there that I'm migrating over. |
[2070.56 --> 2075.82] But the long-term review of TiddlyWiki is my wife doesn't use it because it's putting images in. |
[2075.90 --> 2082.18] It's just I had to create an entry in the wiki of how to use the wiki to add images to the wiki. |
[2082.64 --> 2084.78] Yeah, that sounds about right. |
[2084.82 --> 2085.62] Not a good indictment. |
[2085.80 --> 2092.60] When you showed it to me earlier, I noticed that you had a plug-in to generate really quick and nice-looking markdown tables. |
[2092.60 --> 2096.98] So is there a pretty healthy community plug-in ecosystem around Obsidian? |
[2097.42 --> 2097.76] Oh, yeah. |
[2097.76 --> 2108.54] Yeah, there was an episode of the Connected podcast on RelayFM where one of the guys goes into basically how he's creating his own editor inside Obsidian |
[2108.54 --> 2113.44] to work with his own workflow that publishes posts and does all sorts of crazy stuff. |
[2114.12 --> 2114.70] Oh, wow. |
[2114.70 --> 2120.80] I would honestly liken the community plug-in ecosystem to Emacs. |
[2121.24 --> 2131.00] It started off as just an editor, but it's very quickly becoming a bit of a cult, and lots of people are writing stuff that will run all sorts of crazy stuff inside Obsidian. |
[2131.00 --> 2141.50] I'm only two or three days in at this point, so I can only imagine how in a couple of months I'll be doing all sorts of wacky, wild, and wonderful stuff. |
[2141.50 --> 2147.52] And Obsidian is 100% free for personal use, no account required. |
[2148.12 --> 2150.22] You get access to the plug-ins in the API. |
[2150.68 --> 2155.40] There are a couple of paid versions, which I imagine is also kind of a nice way to support development. |
[2156.04 --> 2158.42] You get access to early builds. |
[2159.28 --> 2162.24] And then there's also a commercial version, and even there, it's $50. |
[2162.24 --> 2165.48] Like, the pricing is really fair. |
[2165.84 --> 2172.46] I like this model, and I've heard people that you and I both really respect in our community talk really highly of Obsidian. |
[2172.82 --> 2175.44] But it does definitely strike me as a power tool, Alex. |
[2175.52 --> 2181.32] Like, it's not a casual Notes app like SimpleNote is or the Notes app that's built into your phone OS. |
[2181.42 --> 2184.20] It's like, it's a power tool for Notes. |
[2184.20 --> 2192.90] If you want it to be, I mean, it could just be a completely atomic, unlinked set of markdown files. |
[2193.28 --> 2194.36] That would be nice, though. |
[2194.80 --> 2202.48] The magic of it, though, is if you do start connecting everything together, you know, I've got a page here that has all of my Zigbee buttons listed. |
[2202.70 --> 2210.40] But then I connect to a separate page elsewhere that then says, you know, that Zigbee button is an Ikea Trad Free. |
[2210.40 --> 2225.40] And I connect to another note about how to set up an Ikea Trad Free button, not as part of the original Zigbee note, but as its own separate atomic thing that just lives in its own space but has a backlink to the Zigbee stuff. |
[2225.52 --> 2234.42] It's kind of hard to explain, but this whole Zettelkasten linking notes and organic research type thing is very popular in academia. |
[2234.74 --> 2237.54] But I'm finding it very useful for technical documentation as well. |
[2237.54 --> 2240.54] Linode.com slash SSH. |
[2241.24 --> 2246.06] Go there to get $100 in 60-day credit on a new account, and you go there to support the show. |
[2246.94 --> 2250.48] Linode's where we host everything, and Linode's also my lab in the cloud. |
[2250.96 --> 2261.24] If I'm trying something out, if there's a project that we want to evaluate, or also if we want to have something to just send the audience to go bang on for a bit, I build that on Linode. |
[2261.24 --> 2270.44] I mean, my ISP's connection's not up for that job anyways, and it's not like I'm going to go rack something in a colo somewhere like I did back in the early aughts. |
[2270.62 --> 2272.76] No, I'm going to go to Linode, and you can too. |
[2272.84 --> 2275.36] You can get $100 in 60-day credit on a new account. |
[2275.76 --> 2278.92] That's Linode's way of saying you can really try it out. |
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