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[551.68 --> 552.54] It's, you know, you're not,
[553.40 --> 555.10] I mean, Synology make a great product.
[555.20 --> 557.68] So do QNAP and Unraid's also great,
[557.78 --> 558.82] but it's not open source.
[559.68 --> 562.50] Free NAS requires learning ZFS,
[563.16 --> 565.72] which I know I talk about in Perfect Media Server,
[565.82 --> 569.94] but it's kind of orthogonal to the main content.
[570.06 --> 571.82] It's not required learning.
[571.98 --> 574.44] Whereas with a True NAS or a Free NAS product,
[574.66 --> 575.24] it is.
[575.24 --> 578.50] It's just the most flexible thing for most people.
[578.64 --> 581.32] And I think when you start looking at
[581.32 --> 582.86] putting together one of these servers,
[583.00 --> 585.80] $1,500 isn't a small upfront investment.
[586.00 --> 586.50] And you think, right,
[586.56 --> 587.84] well, where can I cut some costs?
[587.94 --> 590.64] And the obvious answer is the hard drives.
[591.06 --> 592.60] You know, rather than buying five,
[592.70 --> 594.58] let's only buy a couple, right?
[594.60 --> 596.90] And then I'll add the other three
[596.90 --> 598.12] over the next year or two.
[598.90 --> 600.20] MergerFS lets me do that.
[600.28 --> 603.40] It lets me add drives as my collection grows
[603.40 --> 607.60] without having to re-silver a ZFS array
[607.60 --> 611.40] or rebuild a RAID setup or anything like that.
[611.44 --> 613.36] It just grows as I do,
[613.42 --> 614.66] and it changes and matures.
[615.00 --> 616.66] And because it's just Linux,
[617.00 --> 620.16] it's open and I can go and tinker
[620.16 --> 621.52] as deep as I want under the hood.
[621.90 --> 623.40] Or again, because it's Linux,
[623.56 --> 624.96] it will just work.
[625.04 --> 625.76] It's just reliable.
[626.02 --> 628.16] It's battle-tested and hardened everywhere.
[628.16 --> 632.58] So I really do think that if you're willing
[632.58 --> 636.34] to put the time in and learn a little bit of this stuff
[636.34 --> 638.92] with the information that's provided here for you,
[639.12 --> 640.10] for free, I might add,
[640.14 --> 641.76] I don't make a penny off of this stuff.
[642.20 --> 643.62] Anyway, I never have.
[643.68 --> 644.90] I just wanted to give this information
[644.90 --> 645.90] back to the community.
[646.76 --> 648.72] I don't think there's a better solution, really,
[648.80 --> 650.12] if you're willing to put the effort in.
[650.92 --> 652.44] And I'll just give one more mention,
[652.76 --> 654.14] because as you were talking there,
[654.14 --> 656.30] I was just also reviewing your QuickSync
[656.30 --> 657.68] and Proxmox page.
[658.18 --> 659.98] And damn, you put some work into this.
[660.46 --> 662.38] But I also, I think it's pretty clever
[662.38 --> 665.18] that you embedded the relevant JB content
[665.18 --> 667.42] where we've talked about a lot of this stuff in depth
[667.42 --> 668.96] when it still holds up.
[669.04 --> 671.76] So not only do you get a lot of the written stuff
[671.76 --> 672.72] and the visual examples,
[672.88 --> 675.26] but you've got a video from Wendell in here too.
[675.44 --> 678.14] And so you add the supplemental media content.
[678.94 --> 682.48] I could see us linking this to a lot of people
[682.48 --> 684.16] that write into the show and ask questions
[684.16 --> 684.96] about this stuff.
[685.78 --> 687.58] If I were going to contribute one area,
[687.68 --> 688.68] I just thought to troll you,
[688.74 --> 690.40] I'd probably contribute using ButterFS.
[690.96 --> 693.96] Because literally everything you just said
[693.96 --> 696.44] about MergerFS is why I use ButterFS.
[698.14 --> 699.50] Seriously, like word for word.
[699.76 --> 702.62] So on the ZFS page,
[702.76 --> 705.28] there's a whole section about what about ButterFS.
[706.72 --> 708.20] Okay, good.
[708.24 --> 709.24] You've addressed it, I can see.
[709.76 --> 711.12] Well, a little bit.
[711.12 --> 714.14] And my conclusion was that using ButterFS
[714.14 --> 717.06] would probably be easier than ZFS
[717.06 --> 720.08] simply because it's shipped as part of the Linux kernel.
[720.34 --> 724.02] But I've invested in ZFS mentally,
[724.20 --> 727.32] but also I've synced six,
[727.46 --> 730.82] seven terabytes worth of data across the ocean to the UK.
[731.36 --> 733.14] And I don't want to have to spend another
[733.14 --> 736.58] six or seven weeks doing that again if I switch.
[736.92 --> 738.80] Well, ironically, it's more about
[738.80 --> 740.48] it's more about how you use MergerFS.
[741.00 --> 742.92] However, I think, you know, both are gray.
[743.02 --> 744.72] And if MergerFS is working for you,
[745.52 --> 747.16] I'm not, I will really not, I'm just more teasing.
[747.64 --> 749.22] But it did strike me
[749.22 --> 752.08] that being able to join mismatched disks
[752.08 --> 753.66] and add them as it grows
[753.66 --> 755.06] and be able to remove them easily
[755.06 --> 757.74] is why I switched to using ButterFS
[757.74 --> 759.26] on my Raspberry Pi media servers.
[759.26 --> 760.36] Because I needed something
[760.36 --> 762.54] that essentially was no cost.
[762.54 --> 764.74] Since ButterFS is built into the kernel
[764.74 --> 767.18] and it also doesn't have a high,
[767.28 --> 768.86] it's a very efficient file system.
[768.94 --> 770.10] There's not a big performance penalty.
[770.24 --> 771.24] I don't need a lot of RAM.
[771.94 --> 773.04] It meant that I didn't have to install
[773.04 --> 775.28] any additional software at all.
[775.62 --> 778.50] And actually no additional config files or anything.