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[1724.74 --> 1726.06] I'm going to have to be able to use it as my server. |
[1726.42 --> 1734.26] And then I've got a Homelab box as well, which currently is the Dual Xeons, which I was running for the last two, three years with 128 gigs of RAM. |
[1734.26 --> 1738.24] And I'm going to use that as like a Homelab slash backup box. |
[1738.44 --> 1741.08] So I'll power it on minimum, I don't know, once a week, whatever. |
[1741.78 --> 1746.94] Have a couple of 10 terabyte hard drives in there and mirror my ZFS array with ZFS send or whatever. |
[1746.94 --> 1750.98] And then that'll be my on-site backup, effectively. |
[1751.32 --> 1764.34] But what I'm thinking is that those Dual Xeons are massive overkill for running OpenShift in my context of developing infrastructure at work, which is its primary use case. |
[1765.22 --> 1769.02] And so I'm thinking maybe I could get away with a knock or two for that role. |
[1769.02 --> 1772.98] Or maybe I should just stop spending money and just use what I've got. |
[1773.48 --> 1778.46] Well, I think clearly you just haven't gotten the Pi religion enough because that just sounds like great uses for a bunch of Pis. |
[1779.22 --> 1779.92] Oh, yeah. |
[1780.32 --> 1781.88] Because you also have a Pi running now. |
[1781.98 --> 1783.16] You now have a Pi running with Home Assistant. |
[1783.26 --> 1784.42] So it is several systems. |
[1784.42 --> 1785.86] Yeah, I think so. |
[1785.98 --> 1789.42] I probably will take Home Assistant off the Pi. |
[1790.28 --> 1794.14] I'll probably put it back on Proxmox because I've got NVMA storage in there. |
[1794.34 --> 1801.02] It's going to be more performant than the Pi, particularly when you're loading lots of plugins like VS Code and the heavier stuff like Node.red. |
[1801.40 --> 1803.30] You do notice a difference there. |
[1803.78 --> 1805.34] Yeah, or snapshots or updates. |
[1805.62 --> 1807.54] Yeah, updates for sure. |
[1808.02 --> 1810.92] It takes 10 or 15 minutes instead of five. |
[1810.92 --> 1815.04] So, yeah, you do notice it's a less powerful system. |
[1815.32 --> 1822.44] But in terms of just day-to-day functionality of controlling your devices and automations, it does do the job just fine. |
[1822.64 --> 1827.58] Well, that's the thing about an automation, right, is it just happens without me knowing how long it takes. |
[1827.82 --> 1831.74] And if it takes eight milliseconds instead of four, I don't really care. |
[1832.72 --> 1839.74] No, and for me, in my particular use case, because in 2021, I think I will be off-grid more than I ever have been. |
[1839.74 --> 1841.22] And power matters more than ever. |
[1841.34 --> 1843.08] I've actually been condensing down. |
[1843.82 --> 1845.34] I'm now down to just two Pis. |
[1845.56 --> 1849.98] And I'm going to try to condense down to maybe just one Pi or the Odroid item. |
[1850.06 --> 1850.64] I'm not sure yet. |
[1850.98 --> 1853.68] The Pi intervention that we staged appears to be working then. |
[1854.08 --> 1854.56] Yeah, it's funny. |
[1854.62 --> 1856.98] As I'm sort of scaling down, you're scaling up your Pi usage. |
[1857.12 --> 1858.58] I think you'll be on the show soon. |
[1858.66 --> 1860.76] Tell me about more Pi deployments you've done. |
[1860.76 --> 1862.34] You say that. |
[1862.74 --> 1867.68] But I was looking at the Odroid stuff, particularly after Home Assistant Blue came out. |
[1867.78 --> 1869.50] I was like, okay, well, this is the future of Home Assistant. |
[1869.64 --> 1872.14] I should just buy one of those and call it good. |
[1872.30 --> 1874.08] But they're $180. |
[1876.08 --> 1877.16] That's too much. |
[1877.32 --> 1881.86] Like compared to what you can buy as a used Dell or a used HP system, |
[1882.58 --> 1886.90] the HP 290 that's now running my Blue Iris was $140 shipped. |
[1886.90 --> 1889.60] And for that, I got a 500 gig hard drive. |
[1889.96 --> 1896.70] I got eight gigabytes of RAM and a QuickSync capable eighth gen Intel CPU with two PCIe slots. |
[1897.02 --> 1898.88] So I can add an NVMe drive. |
[1899.16 --> 1900.02] X86 compatibility. |
[1900.46 --> 1902.02] Yeah, and X86 as well. |
[1902.46 --> 1906.44] So I could add any eighth gen Intel CPU into there if, for whatever reason, |
[1906.50 --> 1908.10] the Celeron that's in there isn't good enough, |
[1908.46 --> 1912.18] which it is actually for the six cameras that I have with QuickSync. |
[1912.74 --> 1914.82] I could add an NVMe drive in there. |
[1914.88 --> 1915.96] I could add more RAM. |
[1915.96 --> 1917.76] I can do PCIe slots. |
[1918.12 --> 1919.04] And it was $140. |
[1919.62 --> 1920.80] It is too expensive then. |
[1920.90 --> 1922.14] The Eldroid is just too expensive. |
[1922.28 --> 1925.74] And it doesn't have the compatibility that the Raspberry Pi 4 does. |
[1926.00 --> 1928.52] I'm still feeling the pain from that Helios purchase. |
[1928.92 --> 1929.12] Yeah. |
[1929.24 --> 1936.64] I still feel really almost burned by that because I thought ARM would be better by now. |
[1936.82 --> 1937.76] It's just a struggle. |
[1938.16 --> 1939.76] Like whenever you're trying to do something, |
[1939.76 --> 1947.52] you'll always come across some edge case of the container you want to run doesn't have an image for the correct architecture. |
[1948.08 --> 1953.34] Or, you know, some package isn't built for ARM or it's not got QuickSync. |
[1953.34 --> 1955.38] I know I keep going on about QuickSync, but it is amazing. |
[1956.34 --> 1970.64] And for me, the price I pay of a few extra watts and a few extra liters of space in my house being used up is totally worth it for not having to futz around with ARM stuff for another year or two until it's ready. |
[1970.64 --> 1974.06] Yeah, I think that's a perfectly reasonable outlook. |
[1974.52 --> 1975.96] Even you make a good price argument. |
[1976.34 --> 1984.56] I think the reality is that if I could only choose between an x86 box or an Odroid type system for my home hosting, |
[1984.76 --> 1987.38] I would absolutely choose the x86 box every single time. |
[1988.18 --> 1992.44] There are kind of examples in the market, though, that show us where ARM is going. |
[1992.74 --> 1994.92] So I think this is going to be a solved problem. |
[1995.20 --> 1999.10] It really kind of demonstrates how it's all about implementation. |
[1999.10 --> 2003.44] You look at Apple with the M1, look what they're capable of doing with ARM, |
[2003.78 --> 2010.16] and then you look at, say, the Raspberry Pi Foundation and the different kind of scale of machines they can do with ARM |
[2010.16 --> 2014.74] and the ecosystem they've built around it now and the foundation that they have built around it. |
[2015.34 --> 2019.66] There are implementations that do it really well, and then their implementations are a little bit rough. |
[2019.76 --> 2024.72] And I think it's so nuanced, it's hard for consumers to understand the value differences there. |
[2024.72 --> 2029.96] And I think that's why you and I have been kind of chilling on this recently is because these are sort of the unspoken things |
[2029.96 --> 2033.66] that aren't necessarily specs that are bullet points on a web page. |
[2033.74 --> 2037.54] These are the more nuanced things that you learn over time when you use them in production. |
[2038.28 --> 2039.22] By using it, yeah. |
[2039.72 --> 2045.84] By trying to solve a particular problem and butting your head up against endless forum posts, |
[2046.06 --> 2051.72] or in some cases, because what you're trying to do, you might be the first trying to do it on ARM. |
[2051.72 --> 2055.18] There are no forum posts, and good luck to you, you know. |
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[2088.98 --> 2093.48] Continuing talking about the pie, just to annoy that one specific Reddit commenter. |
[2094.34 --> 2096.18] I'm full troll mode today. |
[2096.72 --> 2101.26] We talked about backing up Home Assistant last time through a Google Drive plugin, |
[2101.84 --> 2105.30] and a little birdie tells me you tried it out at last. |
[2105.78 --> 2107.20] You talked me into it. You did. |
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