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[2755.52 --> 2757.78] There, for example, we use, of course, SonarCube.
[2758.68 --> 2762.80] Checkmarks is also one of the things you can use.
[2762.80 --> 2766.26] And, of course, there are also other tools.
[2767.02 --> 2771.40] Like, I think there is an OWASP tool, but I don't know the name anymore.
[2771.98 --> 2776.54] A ton of tools is out there to do just static code analysis.
[2777.04 --> 2784.98] And what you also need to do is you not only need to analyze your code, you also need to analyze the libraries.
[2785.70 --> 2788.02] And the libraries of the libraries and of the libraries.
[2788.14 --> 2788.62] Oh, yes.
[2788.94 --> 2789.40] Exactly.
[2789.52 --> 2790.14] That's a big one.
[2790.14 --> 2791.18] That's a big one.
[2791.32 --> 2794.06] And you need to identify these vulnerabilities there.
[2794.24 --> 2797.82] And there I use usually WhiteSource to do that.
[2798.48 --> 2805.98] Which is also quite good because you also get the information about the licensing, which is also a difficult thing.
[2806.18 --> 2806.64] Oh, yes.
[2806.98 --> 2807.48] Oh, yes.
[2807.50 --> 2808.20] That's a big one.
[2808.30 --> 2808.60] You're right.
[2808.70 --> 2814.22] Like, once you enter the enterprise world, these things, like, you don't even think about them as a startup.
[2814.22 --> 2817.94] But when you go in the enterprise, this is a big ticket item.
[2818.14 --> 2819.26] Really very important.
[2819.76 --> 2820.08] Exactly.
[2820.32 --> 2820.48] Exactly.
[2820.98 --> 2825.94] And the second thing you need to think of is, of course, when you are in production.
[2826.48 --> 2830.96] First of all, what you need to do is monitor your system.
[2830.96 --> 2836.42] And therefore, you need to have these enterprise security monitoring systems.
[2836.88 --> 2839.22] There is also a ton of products out there.
[2839.48 --> 2841.82] But usually what you use is Splunk.
[2842.02 --> 2850.14] You configure quite a good alerting together with the security experts so that you get alerted about any security vulnerabilities.
[2850.14 --> 2851.18] That's interesting.
[2851.44 --> 2855.60] So we have heard about the trends, the DevOps trends for 2021.
[2856.18 --> 2861.16] And you give us some great examples, some tools that, you know, you use in the various spaces.
[2861.68 --> 2865.50] I'm wondering, first of all, will you create a video for 2022?
[2866.18 --> 2866.50] Sure.
[2866.68 --> 2867.18] Of course.
[2867.48 --> 2867.78] Okay.
[2867.78 --> 2869.64] I'm currently preparing it.
[2869.84 --> 2873.32] I'm gathering all of the trends that I see at the moment.
[2873.58 --> 2877.76] And at the end of the year, I will create that video and publish it.
[2877.76 --> 2881.10] Can you give us a couple of hints as to what you're thinking about?
[2881.30 --> 2882.34] Again, this is a draft.
[2882.44 --> 2885.70] This is not a finished version, but a few things that you're thinking for this video.
[2885.94 --> 2886.08] Yeah.
[2886.56 --> 2893.32] So first of all, what I will do is I will look back to what I said in my 2021 video.
[2893.32 --> 2895.64] And I will have a look at that.
[2895.78 --> 2899.66] And then I will say what kind of trends I see in the future.
[2900.06 --> 2904.20] And one of the huge trends that I see is hyperautomation.
[2904.20 --> 2908.54] So it's not only about automating stuff.
[2908.82 --> 2911.84] It's about automating nearly everything.
[2912.34 --> 2916.84] So this is a huge trend that I'm seeing coming.
[2917.56 --> 2922.56] And with the hyperautomation, there is also another thing coming.
[2922.76 --> 2927.10] And this is you get a lot of data out of that and you need to monitor that.
[2927.10 --> 2930.94] And then you have, again, that big data problem.
[2931.18 --> 2939.34] And again, AIOps comes into play because with all of that automation, you also need to maintain that and you need to operate that.
[2939.80 --> 2944.16] So your topic observability will be quite a huge thing.
[2944.80 --> 2945.40] Interesting.
[2945.96 --> 2949.16] So hyperautomation, that is a great title.
[2949.84 --> 2952.36] I'm sure that we could do an episode just on that.
[2952.58 --> 2953.22] What it is?
[2953.32 --> 2954.24] Why is it important?
[2954.70 --> 2956.04] What elements do you see in that?
[2956.04 --> 2956.52] Interesting.
[2957.24 --> 2958.84] Okay, that's a great idea, I think.
[2959.30 --> 2962.06] Let's run it by the product team, I think.
[2962.76 --> 2964.92] Because you were talking about ideas, everybody has one.
[2965.02 --> 2968.62] So how do you figure out whether the ideas are you for a related hypothesis?
[2969.32 --> 2969.82] Is that something?
[2969.92 --> 2974.14] So maybe anyone listening to this can tell us if that's something they're excited about.
[2974.58 --> 2977.44] We can connect it to the users, to the end users, the ones listening.
[2977.60 --> 2980.52] And if they would want to for us to do an episode on that.
[2980.70 --> 2981.36] I'm excited.
[2981.36 --> 2989.14] What the next thing is, which we'll have, and this is the whole cyber resilience topic.
[2989.14 --> 2994.92] So, of course, we have on one side, we have that DevSecOps thing.
[2995.06 --> 2999.22] So we bring security into the whole DevOps cycle.
[2999.22 --> 3011.64] But when you look at all of the attacks that are out there on companies, I think cyber resilience will be one of the big, big topics.
[3011.64 --> 3023.34] And I think together with DevSecOps, we will be able to give the companies this cyber resilience in their application, but also in their infrastructure.
[3024.62 --> 3025.10] Interesting.
[3025.50 --> 3028.24] I don't know enough about that topic, but it's something I'd like to do.
[3028.44 --> 3031.56] I would like to research just to understand it a bit better.
[3031.56 --> 3039.00] I know all the ransomware attacks and all the cyber attacks, they're becoming more and more prevalent and bigger, and they affect more and more users.
[3039.50 --> 3046.00] But I don't know enough about more details other than what you just get from afar.
[3046.38 --> 3049.60] So I think that's something I'd like to spend a bit more time in.
[3049.92 --> 3058.08] I know that switching subjects, because I know that one topic that was top of your mind recently was how to allocate budget.
[3058.08 --> 3058.52] Yeah.
[3058.82 --> 3061.56] And I forget the exact phrase that you used.
[3061.60 --> 3062.42] It was a really good one.
[3062.66 --> 3063.58] Let me check that, actually.
[3063.96 --> 3065.06] Or you can tell me what it is.
[3065.22 --> 3065.36] Sure.
[3065.58 --> 3067.94] It's participatory budgeting.
[3068.40 --> 3068.76] Okay.
[3068.84 --> 3069.56] What is that?
[3070.02 --> 3071.82] What is participatory budgeting?
[3072.36 --> 3072.84] Exactly.
[3073.50 --> 3080.14] So participatory budgeting is a thing you can do to allocate budget.
[3080.74 --> 3085.90] So what is one of the big problems that we have when allocating a budget?
[3085.90 --> 3090.58] Usually, you have people who want to do stuff.
[3090.90 --> 3099.26] And on the other side, you have people who have the budget and who say where, which kind or which amount of budget gets.
[3099.76 --> 3109.78] The problem is that the people who have the budget don't really know what exactly the impact is of the certain topic.
[3109.78 --> 3114.50] The people who want to do something really has.