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For the logged in users, because obviously those requests we can't cache, things will be slightly quicker. So for Adam, for Jerod, whoever is working on the admin, those things will be quicker.
Another thing which I do know that we do - we do background processing on some of the S3 files, the logs and stuff like that... So expect those to be quicker. But I don't know by how much. I think we're using Oban for that, aren't we, Alex?
**Alex Koutmos:** Yeah, we're using Oban. I think Oban was set up just to send out asynchronous emails. I don't know if there was any other work being done by Oban. But now that you mention those things, we probably should have metrics in place to capture those S3 processing jobs, see how long they take pre and post OT...
**Gerhard Lazu:** Yeah, that's right. That's a really good one. That'll be a great one to add. Okay, I'm really looking forward to that. And if you've listened to this, you can watch it live. And if you haven't, that's okay; you'll see it on Twitter. We will post. Maybe we'll even do a scheduled livestream. Does that m...
**Alex Koutmos:** Yeah, it works for me.
**Gerhard Lazu:** \[44:06\] Okay. So no impromptu. We'll schedule it and we'll say "On this time, at this day, at this hour." Okay, I like that. That's a great idea, actually. So we'll have like at least a few days of heads up, and then you can listen to this, and then you can watch that, how we do it. Great. that make...
So we're approaching the end, and I think we need to end on a high... Because it's Friday when we're recording this, it was a good week, and the weekend is just around the corner... So what do you have planned for this weekend, Alex? Anything fun?
**Alex Koutmos:** This weekend... I think I have one thing I wanna do in PromEx, but then I'll be building a garden. So I'll be outdoors, using the table saw, and the miter saw, and the nailgun, and putting together some nice garden beds.
**Gerhard Lazu:** Okay, well that sounds amazing. You have to balance all the PromEx and all the Erlang/Elixir work somehow, right?
**Alex Koutmos:** Oh, yeah. You need to find a healthy balance between open source work, the full-time job, and a little bit of fun for yourself.
**Gerhard Lazu:** Yeah, that's for sure. So building a garden - that sounds amazing. You must be either very good or very brave, I'm not sure which one. Either a great DIYer, or very brave, you'll figure it out. Which one is it?
**Alex Koutmos:** I don't wanna be arrogant or anything, but I think I'm a decent DIYer. I also used to tinker around with cars quite a bit before I had a family... When it was okay to financially irresponsible and buy a $3,000 motor just because I felt like it. Nowadays you can't do that... \[laughter\]
**Gerhard Lazu:** Okay, different times... Right?
**Alex Koutmos:** Yeah, exactly.
**Gerhard Lazu:** Different world.
**Alex Koutmos:** I could buy a motorcycle anytime I wanted to. I didn't have to worry about providing for my kiddos. I go with safe hobbies, like building garden beds or doing some woodworking.
**Gerhard Lazu:** Okay, that sounds great. So I hope the weather is going to be great, because for me, the weather has been rubbish for the whole week. Windy... I wouldn't say it's cold, but it's not nice; it's been raining all day every day, we had some downpours as well... So it hasn't been really great. And right no...
**Alex Koutmos:** Well played, sir. Well played. I'll have to take some selfies. I usually stray from the selfies... \[laughs\]
**Gerhard Lazu:** And videos. Those are very important, because if you don't take videos, someone else could be doing the work and you just take pictures. No... That would never happen, right? Only in movies. \[laughter\]
**Alex Koutmos:** Never, never.
**Gerhard Lazu:** Alright, Alex. Well, it's been a pleasure to have you on the show. I really enjoyed this. I'm looking forward to doing what we said we will do. That's super exciting. Shipping Erlang 24 for Changelog.com - that'll be great. And which version of PromEx are we at now? Do you know which one is the latest...
**Alex Koutmos:** I don't remember... I think 1.1.0 is the latest... And I think the Changelog is on 1.0.1.
**Gerhard Lazu:** Right. So not that far behind, but...
**Alex Koutmos:** Yeah, we'll bump it up.
**Gerhard Lazu:** That's great, okay. So we shipped that. That is exciting. Ship a garden in the meantime as well; maybe a barbecue. We'll see. This has been tremendous fun. Thank you, Alex. Looking forward to the next time.
**Alex Koutmos:** Likewise, thank you.
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• Changing the business model around distribution of technology to a more circular economy
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• How Equinix Metal changed Zac Smith's "Why" compared to Packet
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• Comparison of Packet's IaaS approach with Equinix Metal's capabilities
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• Equinix's focus on sustainability and environmental initiatives (ESG)
• Zac Smith's passion for the industry and his vision for automating hardware interaction
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• Challenges in mixed data centers with diverse technologies and limited ability to purpose-build infrastructure
• Need for efficient cooling methods, such as liquid cooling, to reduce energy consumption and environmental impact
• Opportunities to capture waste heat as energy or sell it back to the grid
• Unsustainability of current evaporative cooling methods, which require millions of gallons of water per day
• Importance of standardization in data center design, including mechanical form factors and rack configurations
• Potential for Open 19, an open standard for mechanical form factor, to enable standardized data centers and reduce waste
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