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[2970.20 --> 2976.22] And because really the network effect, it has been very beneficial to just have a strong |
[2976.22 --> 2978.08] Discord presence for the show too. |
[2978.14 --> 2978.98] It's helped the show a lot. |
[2979.38 --> 2980.90] Things like this London meetup, right? |
[2980.90 --> 2987.00] They are birthed in that Discord, but there is two Matrix self-hosted rooms. |
[2987.12 --> 2991.52] They're not crazy busy, but they are available on the Jupiter Broadcasting Matrix for those |
[2991.52 --> 2996.20] of you, because like Turquoise here doesn't basically doesn't want to put a phone number |
[2996.20 --> 2998.00] in or put information into the Discord service. |
[2998.26 --> 2999.92] And there's going to be people out there that feel that way. |
[2999.92 --> 3000.62] I totally understand. |
[3000.62 --> 3006.16] So I've got an interesting take on this because if not this community, what community, right? |
[3006.34 --> 3008.66] Because this would be the one to be doing it. |
[3008.76 --> 3013.44] So with our hackerspace, with our folks that we work with at DEF CON, it's like, hey, we |
[3013.44 --> 3015.06] want this to be more private, more secure. |
[3015.30 --> 3019.86] But the barrier to entry is so much higher, let alone just trying to get our own family |
[3019.86 --> 3020.82] members onto it. |
[3021.06 --> 3022.54] That's where it gets hard. |
[3022.54 --> 3028.08] And until we make it easier for folks to onboard with that, it's much like I think that there |
[3028.08 --> 3034.32] are better signal or messaging, secure messaging like signal versus wire. |
[3034.56 --> 3037.88] But the problem is, what's your onboarding process? |
[3038.14 --> 3042.14] If it's not seamless, if it's not easy, you're not going to get as many people on. |
[3042.32 --> 3047.04] So depending on your paranoia, depending on you actually having to do threat modeling for |
[3047.04 --> 3050.68] yourself and your community, you're going to land in different areas. |
[3050.68 --> 3055.54] And I could see too, like if this was a podcast that was doing, you know, war crime journalism |
[3055.54 --> 3058.44] in Ukraine, maybe we wouldn't want to be on Discord, right? |
[3058.50 --> 3061.08] Maybe we'd want to be using really secure encrypted communications. |
[3061.08 --> 3065.36] But at the end of the day, this is a podcast and everything we produce is ultimately public |
[3065.36 --> 3065.68] too. |
[3066.30 --> 3068.70] We've almost got 5,000 people in the Discord now. |
[3068.82 --> 3074.88] And I really don't think we would have so many people in a Matrix server. |
[3074.88 --> 3081.96] I may well be wrong, but my feeling is that the friction to joining a new Discord server |
[3081.96 --> 3086.50] for those that are already using Discord, which at this point is a lot of people that listen |
[3086.50 --> 3087.52] to this podcast, right? |
[3087.60 --> 3091.28] The cross-section Venn diagram is quite large. |
[3092.04 --> 3097.40] The friction to joining yet another Discord server is quite low compared to signing up for |
[3097.40 --> 3101.46] Matrix and then having the right client and then waiting whilst Chris and Wes add more |
[3101.46 --> 3102.42] RAM to the box. |
[3102.84 --> 3111.40] And so for me, I stand by what we said originally, that the mission of the chat server, in this |
[3111.40 --> 3119.34] case, it's a Discord server, is not necessarily to be the ultimate in self-hosting dog food, |
[3119.56 --> 3120.58] for want of a better phrase. |
[3120.58 --> 3125.84] And it's to further the mission by allowing people to collaborate and ask questions in |
[3125.84 --> 3126.88] a friction-free way. |
[3127.50 --> 3131.60] Yeah, it's sort of like we stream on Peertube now, but we're also streaming on YouTube and |
[3131.60 --> 3134.20] Twitch because we want to be where the audience is at. |
[3134.74 --> 3137.08] And just like with Matrix, we have a self-hosted solution. |
[3137.22 --> 3138.46] That is something we self-host. |
[3138.72 --> 3140.64] I'm long on Matrix, right? |
[3140.82 --> 3143.92] I feel like give another five years, it's just going to continue to grow. |
[3144.04 --> 3148.38] When we first launched our Matrix server, we had 200 users a year ago, you know? |
[3148.38 --> 3153.98] So today, we have like 2,500 users and our largest room is like 1,300 people. |
[3154.34 --> 3158.30] But it's not as big as the self-hosted Discord because the Discord network effect is so much |
[3158.30 --> 3158.62] larger. |
[3158.96 --> 3161.98] But I am very happy with that kind of growth for a year. |
[3162.30 --> 3166.40] And I imagine if that continues, at some point, Matrix will be a real big part of what we |
[3166.40 --> 3166.62] do. |
[3166.78 --> 3171.52] And it is already for me, it's already the, it's out of all of the different platforms |
[3171.52 --> 3175.30] that I'm available on, Matrix is the one that I hang out on the most. |
[3175.30 --> 3179.30] I do check those self-hosted Matrix rooms from time to time if you want to jump in there, |
[3179.36 --> 3179.68] Turquoise. |
[3180.08 --> 3182.20] One day, one day we'll make the switch. |
[3182.34 --> 3183.32] Just, just not yet. |
[3183.92 --> 3190.82] And I think it's going to come soon because we had some Red Hatters jump from Red Hat over |
[3190.82 --> 3197.60] to the Element community and seen some interviews online from Eric, the IT guy, with what they're |
[3197.60 --> 3199.74] doing and how they're onboarding it easier. |
[3199.90 --> 3201.28] They're making those bridges happen. |
[3201.60 --> 3203.98] If you throw a couple bucks at them a month, it's making it a lot easier. |
[3203.98 --> 3208.46] To me, it made me go and say, huh, it might be time to go relook at that now. |
[3208.76 --> 3209.18] That's true. |
[3209.60 --> 3212.48] Red Hat does, is getting a bigger and bigger Matrix present too. |
[3212.56 --> 3216.86] Not just, not just the team people over at the Element stuff, but like Red Hat itself, |
[3217.30 --> 3221.10] I am in, I'm in a couple of Red Hat rooms actually on Matrix. |
[3221.78 --> 3224.40] So I, I may be in rooms that you guys are not in. |
[3224.48 --> 3225.22] How weird is that? |
[3225.36 --> 3226.06] I'm not surprised. |
[3226.06 --> 3233.66] We do have one last boost that came into the show from Seamoon or maybe Simon, perhaps. |
[3234.00 --> 3235.44] One day ago, 500 sats. |
[3235.94 --> 3238.26] Hey guys, I recently learned about the Fountain FM app. |
[3238.38 --> 3239.68] That's one of the new podcasting apps. |
[3239.98 --> 3240.98] So here's some sats from you. |
[3241.02 --> 3242.10] I got a question though. |
[3242.64 --> 3243.60] And this is a good question. |
[3243.66 --> 3244.58] I thought a lot about this. |
[3244.58 --> 3249.86] He writes, when you got the Bitwarden one-time authentication code token that you can put |
[3249.86 --> 3253.74] in when you're, when you have the tokens at Bitwarden, he says, isn't that sort of against |
[3253.74 --> 3258.52] the idea of a two-factor authentication to store that code right next to the password? |
[3259.10 --> 3259.92] Greetings from Germany. |
[3260.34 --> 3261.12] Keep up the great work. |
[3261.74 --> 3262.04] Simon. |
[3262.44 --> 3262.64] Why? |
[3262.80 --> 3263.04] Yes. |
[3263.18 --> 3263.82] Yes, it is. |
[3264.00 --> 3268.10] But I refer you to an argument I made with the, in the last episode with Tim. |
[3268.88 --> 3272.98] It's sometimes about just not being the tallest nail, right? |
[3273.10 --> 3278.56] If you have two-factor turned on, on your Amazon account, anybody that's got your password, |
[3278.94 --> 3282.76] assuming it's not your Bitwarden password, of course, is going to look at that account |
[3282.76 --> 3283.84] and go, there, can't be bothered. |
[3284.08 --> 3285.66] Move on to the next one that doesn't have it. |
[3285.78 --> 3286.48] And that's it. |
[3286.54 --> 3288.82] That really, that's all two factors good for, in my opinion. |
[3289.12 --> 3294.00] And so for me, the convenience of having it in Bitwarden and be just a paste away as |
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