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[3567.86 --> 3570.72] And we knew when it had arrived onto the East Coast.
[3570.80 --> 3574.30] I think it came in through New Jersey in the States.
[3575.00 --> 3580.80] And then they give you, I think, like a two-week grace period to go and pick it up at the other end before they start charging you storage fees.
[3581.42 --> 3584.96] And so we just waited for it to come in, tell us it had cleared customs.
[3585.46 --> 3587.40] And then they said, right, you've got two weeks.
[3587.82 --> 3588.34] Off you go.
[3588.44 --> 3591.08] So we rented a van, drove up to New York or New Jersey.
[3591.20 --> 3592.30] And then you were the man with the van.
[3592.30 --> 3592.74] Yeah.
[3593.68 --> 3594.00] Yeah.
[3594.04 --> 3596.56] I mean, some of these services do offer door-to-door service.
[3597.06 --> 3598.56] But we were being a bit frugal.
[3598.78 --> 3601.78] And so we were willing to do that last little bit of the adventure on our own.
[3602.14 --> 3607.58] You must have still had to pick and choose what went, what you got rid of, what you tried to resell.
[3607.64 --> 3608.80] There must have still been a lot of that.
[3609.24 --> 3611.78] It's not a very big amount of space, let me tell you.
[3611.78 --> 3621.00] You know, I brought with me no soft furnishings, nothing, you know, no couches, no beds.
[3621.54 --> 3623.86] I mean, there was a few, there was a couple of duvets in there maybe.
[3623.96 --> 3627.66] But honestly, I think we gave most of that stuff to family and friends.
[3629.12 --> 3634.36] Tables, chairs, everything was, I was ruthless, absolutely ruthless.
[3634.36 --> 3643.66] Our bikes made it in there and there was a couple of, you know, a couple of bits of tech, you know, like big floor standing speakers and that kind of stuff.
[3643.84 --> 3647.56] But yeah, for the most part, we just thought we're moving to America.
[3647.74 --> 3650.44] You know, the voltages are going to be different for a lot of the equipment.
[3651.10 --> 3659.20] It's a chance for us, you know, just turn 30 to kind of push the reset button on a lot of the hand-me-down stuff that we'd had over the years.
[3659.20 --> 3669.62] So my advice, such as it is, would be try and, it's expensive, first of all, I think we paid like $3,000.
[3670.84 --> 3673.06] I might be completely off base with that.
[3673.20 --> 3676.72] It was in the two to three grand range, I think, to ship all that stuff over.
[3676.78 --> 3677.70] It took about four months.
[3678.52 --> 3685.10] But my advice would be sell as much as you can at your Origin and buy as much as you can at your destination.
[3685.10 --> 3697.40] Whether it's all used at the destination or what have you, you know, whilst the other stuff comes in from the boat, you know, because a lot of our kitchen stuff, like pots and pans and cutlery and all that kind of stuff, dishes, that was all on the boat.
[3697.74 --> 3707.18] I ended up on the first night I was there going to Walmart and just filling up my trolley with like $500 worth of basic stuff like towels and plates.
[3707.18 --> 3713.30] It was a real experience, particularly as that week there was a hurricane coming to Raleigh.
[3713.38 --> 3716.54] So most of the rest of Walmart had been picked completely clean.
[3716.70 --> 3720.22] Like, I couldn't buy a tin of tuna, but I could go and buy a spatula.
[3720.46 --> 3721.08] You know, it was okay.
[3721.86 --> 3722.58] Welcome to Raleigh.
[3722.76 --> 3724.20] The Walmart's been ransacked.
[3724.30 --> 3725.38] There's a storm coming.
[3726.54 --> 3727.24] Yeah, dude.
[3727.42 --> 3728.34] It was an experience.
[3728.48 --> 3733.26] Not one I would ever wish to actually repeat because it was, you know, it was one of those things.
[3733.36 --> 3734.22] It was super stressful.
[3735.18 --> 3736.24] I bet, yeah.
[3736.46 --> 3738.70] But at the same time, I'm so glad I did it.
[3738.78 --> 3742.12] And I wish Marcel the absolute best of luck with his move.
[3742.22 --> 3745.48] Feel free to hit me up for any other questions you've got on Discord or Twitter or anything.
[3745.94 --> 3747.96] I'll happily share my experience in a bit more detail.
[3747.96 --> 3751.68] And there you are now visiting again, which is pretty great.
[3751.98 --> 3752.64] It's been weird.
[3752.82 --> 3758.44] Like, we've done a whole lap of England this time up to the north and back down to the south again.
[3758.60 --> 3761.78] And I'm used to driving long distances in the States now.
[3761.78 --> 3766.46] Like, four hours, six hours, nine-hour drives do not phase me in the slightest.
[3766.80 --> 3771.98] But a couple of days ago, when we were driving from Middlesbrough to Norwich, it was supposed to be a four-hour drive.
[3772.08 --> 3773.58] It took us six hours.
[3774.14 --> 3776.96] And one of those hours, it wasn't even like we were stuck in traffic.
[3777.06 --> 3784.26] It was just sort of stop, start, that kind of annoying BS sort of traffic on the A1M past Peterborough.
[3784.26 --> 3787.88] But then the worst part was the service station that we went into.
[3788.04 --> 3797.74] So the best way I can describe this to you as an American is it's a bit like a rest stop, but a lot worse, a lot more cramped and not very nice.
[3798.02 --> 3801.54] This particular one, it serves both carriageways.
[3801.64 --> 3803.48] So there's a big roundabout above the motorway.
[3804.14 --> 3809.50] Both directions come into this thing and they get funneled into these services off the roundabout.
[3809.50 --> 3815.30] First warning sign should have been that there was a queue to get into the damn place.
[3816.30 --> 3818.78] Finally, after like 15 minutes, we make it inside.
[3818.94 --> 3819.76] We have a wee.
[3819.88 --> 3821.02] We go and get a coffee, whatever.
[3821.66 --> 3825.60] It took us 45 minutes to get out of the car park.
[3826.90 --> 3829.86] I just, I was absolutely raging.
[3830.14 --> 3830.96] I was fuming.
[3831.22 --> 3835.16] I was trying my best not to be angry in front of the baby because she doesn't like that.
[3835.16 --> 3842.14] But it's really hard not to get angry when you think I've got to be somewhere to be because I'm remote working in an hour.
[3842.42 --> 3842.54] Yeah.
[3842.64 --> 3843.74] It'd be hard to be at my best.
[3843.76 --> 3845.16] I'm just sat here in traffic.
[3845.64 --> 3846.00] Yikes.
[3846.22 --> 3855.68] So anyway, I've had a lot of, a lot of memories of why we left in the first place about how crowded England is and how expensive everything is and everything else.
[3855.68 --> 3862.50] I do like it to visit, but I don't necessarily think I'll see myself moving back anytime soon.
[3862.86 --> 3867.26] It's nice in short bursts, but I found it quite an adjustment to be back.
[3867.96 --> 3868.18] Interesting.
[3868.84 --> 3870.10] Yeah, I can totally understand that.
[3870.94 --> 3877.92] Ankh Bussin with 8,520 sets says he absolutely loves the self-hosted podcast and wanted to say thanks for the show.
[3878.48 --> 3881.10] He says, Chris and Alex, you guys make a good on-air team.
[3881.10 --> 3890.62] Do you have any tips for building a blueprint or maybe instructions for your self-hosted setup and what you would do maybe in the case of one of you dying?
[3890.78 --> 3900.18] I don't expect my SO to keep my 30 plus services running, but there are certain pieces of data such as family media, scan docs, etc.
[3900.96 --> 3902.68] that would really suck to be lost.
[3903.00 --> 3905.16] How much time do you invest in this?
[3905.22 --> 3906.90] Well, we just talked about this a little bit.
[3907.40 --> 3909.06] I think, Alex, you have the right note.
[3909.06 --> 3916.38] I don't think Ankh should go diagramming things and making essentially a Visio map of the infrastructure.
[3916.58 --> 3919.66] I don't think anybody's going to be able to interpret that in his absence.
[3920.02 --> 3925.32] I think your route, a simple printout, just the basics, is probably the better way to go.
[3925.68 --> 3937.50] I think we've talked about this before and the conclusion we came to was, sadly, nobody else cares about your setup quite as much as you do.
[3937.50 --> 3946.54] I know it's a hard pill to swallow, but if I think about deaths in my life where we've lost a family member or something,
[3947.32 --> 3951.94] there's been a meticulously crafted stamp collection involved, for example.
[3951.94 --> 3954.48] I'm just not interested.
[3954.66 --> 3955.78] I don't know enough about it.
[3955.84 --> 3958.80] I don't really understand the why behind it.
[3958.84 --> 3962.34] And so you take it to a collector and hope you get a good price for it.
[3962.40 --> 3972.50] You know, when you sell it on, it's probably a similar situation when all of my hardware, you know, if and when I pass, you know, all of my crap.
[3972.50 --> 3975.72] And that extends to digital media as well.
[3975.84 --> 3980.74] Now, the one exception I would place on that is things like photographs and documents and things.