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[1284.84 --> 1286.22] Self-hosted.show slash contact. |
[1287.00 --> 1288.04] Yeah, let us know. |
[1289.30 --> 1290.38] Okay, then photos. |
[1290.46 --> 1291.48] I just have a quick update. |
[1291.70 --> 1294.24] You mentioned Image last week. |
[1294.58 --> 1294.90] Image. |
[1295.50 --> 1297.36] I-M-M-I-C-H. |
[1297.52 --> 1299.88] And we got a little bit of knowledge from Fuzzy Mistborn. |
[1300.42 --> 1304.32] He says, I think he might be a lawyer, he says, the Fourth Amendment only protects against |
[1304.32 --> 1305.10] government searches. |
[1305.10 --> 1310.62] So, a EULA can and does allow for Google to search all of your photos. |
[1311.14 --> 1314.94] So, I think it came up, you know, does the Fourth Amendment protect you here? |
[1316.16 --> 1317.86] Fuzzy Mistborn says it does not. |
[1318.16 --> 1321.20] I think I tried to sound intelligent and say they needed a Warrens or something. |
[1321.20 --> 1322.10] I wish they did. |
[1322.64 --> 1323.64] I wish they did. |
[1324.24 --> 1330.36] So, I gave Image a try, which is a self-hosted photo and video backup solution that's aiming |
[1330.36 --> 1336.52] to have a client on Android and iOS that auto-backs you up just like Google Photos does. |
[1337.28 --> 1338.96] Only you self-host it all yourself. |
[1338.96 --> 1347.54] And the basic UI of the web app is very much like the early days of Google Photos. |
[1347.68 --> 1347.78] Yeah. |
[1347.98 --> 1349.08] It looks pretty promising, huh? |
[1349.26 --> 1349.98] It does. |
[1350.78 --> 1352.44] I'm very excited about this. |
[1352.82 --> 1358.90] However, having used it for a bit, I'm also a little sad because I realized after using it, |
[1359.98 --> 1362.78] we're like five years out. |
[1362.78 --> 1369.00] I mean, you're going to get really basic functionality where you can look at your photos and probably |
[1369.00 --> 1372.04] put them in albums and you can probably upload them. |
[1372.36 --> 1375.06] Although, it sounds like iOS is giving the developer a hard time. |
[1375.42 --> 1376.60] He's an iOS user himself. |
[1377.02 --> 1381.36] But they just did a big update this week and they got Android auto-backup working. |
[1381.54 --> 1382.82] They got deduplication working. |
[1382.96 --> 1384.30] They got dark mode on mobile. |
[1384.86 --> 1387.40] But iOS users, he's having a hard time with the background killing. |
[1387.72 --> 1387.88] Yeah. |
[1387.96 --> 1389.44] It's those background APIs, huh? |
[1389.90 --> 1391.74] There's a lot of finesse there to get that working. |
[1391.74 --> 1392.00] Yeah. |
[1392.12 --> 1397.00] And I think that's where Apple probably have an anti-competitive advantage in that they |
[1397.00 --> 1402.16] have system access, system level access to APIs that normal mortal developers just simply |
[1402.16 --> 1402.76] don't have. |
[1402.92 --> 1404.56] It might just be for iOS users. |
[1404.96 --> 1409.78] The solution is to just let iCloud have the photos for a bit, pull them off of iCloud, |
[1410.34 --> 1414.06] you know, with the backup scripts we've talked about on the show before, and then upload them |
[1414.06 --> 1414.90] to something like this. |
[1414.90 --> 1421.94] I do think Image is probably the emerging leader in the pack of all of these different photos |
[1421.94 --> 1422.26] apps. |
[1422.90 --> 1426.54] I mean, I wrote for ours, Technica, I guess, 18 months ago, a couple of years. |
[1426.74 --> 1427.74] I can't remember when exactly. |
[1428.50 --> 1432.48] You know, I did a roundup of all the runners and riders at the time, you know, Photo Prism, |
[1432.48 --> 1436.76] and, you know, there was about 10 or 12 in that list at the time. |
[1437.98 --> 1442.12] And I think Image has come along out of nowhere since that article, really. |
[1442.50 --> 1449.20] And really, if he delivers, which so far the developer has given us absolutely no reason |
[1449.20 --> 1451.80] to believe that he won't deliver on his promise. |
[1452.18 --> 1456.50] If he delivers on it, then I think this is probably going to be the app to beat. |
[1457.22 --> 1457.54] Agreed. |
[1457.70 --> 1462.70] You know, we get Photo Prism recommended a lot, and it is part of a solution, definitely. |
[1463.12 --> 1467.74] But this is a complete, this is like, give it to your family, give them this app. |
[1468.14 --> 1470.66] It just auto uploads in the background, that kind of stuff. |
[1470.72 --> 1471.70] That's really exciting. |
[1472.14 --> 1473.82] And it's pretty easy to get up and running in Docker. |
[1473.94 --> 1475.12] It just takes a few seconds. |
[1475.50 --> 1476.12] So here's the thing. |
[1476.16 --> 1478.56] I mean, it's been architected as microservices. |
[1478.56 --> 1481.38] So, you know, it's what, four or five containers all linked together. |
[1481.38 --> 1489.52] But for me, I think we're at a point where these services need some kind of financial incentive |
[1489.52 --> 1496.08] to be able to have the resources to beat Google or Apple or whoever. |
[1496.40 --> 1503.18] I mean, Google's budget for Google Photos must be astronomical for the development, |
[1503.62 --> 1506.84] for all the machine learning bills that it has, et cetera, et cetera. |
[1506.84 --> 1512.22] Now, obviously, we're outsourcing a bunch of that cost to our servers, to our hard drives, |
[1512.32 --> 1513.84] to our CPUs, whatever. |
[1514.10 --> 1517.38] So that argument sort of kind of goes away. |
[1518.28 --> 1523.80] But with that comes a lot of vertical integrations that Google can do with, you know, |
[1523.90 --> 1529.60] matching lots and lots of different dogs and making their algorithms better and more |
[1529.60 --> 1530.60] accurate and that kind of thing. |
[1531.14 --> 1532.84] I'm sure it's very valuable for them in that regard. |
[1532.84 --> 1538.58] And so I wonder, you know, if you're listening to this show, if you were in the market to |
[1538.58 --> 1542.62] pay for this app, let's just, for example, say Image. |
[1543.20 --> 1548.32] If you were to pay a subscription to support the development of this application, not to |
[1548.32 --> 1553.62] unlock any functionality like what Plex do, for example, just simply, I guess, sort of |
[1553.62 --> 1559.52] like the Home Assistant model to say, here's five bucks a month to support this developer's |
[1559.52 --> 1561.22] ability to go to the grocery store. |
[1561.82 --> 1565.94] Is five bucks, would you be willing to pay that for a completely self-hosted application? |
[1566.74 --> 1567.80] Where does the line draw? |
[1567.90 --> 1571.62] Because I know personally, subscription fatigue is real. |
[1572.04 --> 1578.20] But also, I'm fatigued of giving up my privacy to these big companies. |
[1578.42 --> 1582.44] And I remember one of the things you said to me in the car on the way to that, on the way |
[1582.44 --> 1588.74] to Wendell, was we can't have self-hosted just be cloud bad, local good, because the |
[1588.74 --> 1589.94] cloud isn't all bad. |
[1590.52 --> 1594.58] And I don't wish to sit here and say that cloud is all bad at all. |
[1594.72 --> 1599.02] You know, just bash on Dropbox, bash on Google, bash on all these big companies, because they |
[1599.02 --> 1600.14] do offer a lot of cool stuff. |
[1600.50 --> 1603.90] But at the same time, got to draw a line somewhere. |
[1603.90 --> 1606.96] And I feel like that line is inching, inching. |
[1607.86 --> 1610.78] It's moving like the border in Georgia. |
[1610.78 --> 1615.30] I think the part that's really shifted is the automatic just batching up and transferring |
[1615.30 --> 1619.86] of your Google account to the authorities, where they can review your chat history with |
[1619.86 --> 1623.76] your wife and your friends to see all the stupid stuff you said, you know, for the last 15 |
[1623.76 --> 1624.10] years. |
[1625.10 --> 1626.64] I think that's where the line got crossed. |
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