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[723.14 --> 724.50] Got it all connected into Home Assistant.
[725.36 --> 729.22] And now I've discovered about once every couple of days,
[729.90 --> 732.28] several of the devices just drop off my Zigbee network.
[732.54 --> 733.18] They just disappear.
[733.82 --> 734.16] Right.
[734.30 --> 735.12] Any idea why?
[735.84 --> 736.76] I have a couple of theories.
[736.94 --> 739.44] I think in part, a couple of them are pretty low power devices.
[740.00 --> 744.74] And what I've learned is Zigbee uses 2.4 gigahertz.
[745.66 --> 748.00] And, you know, there's a lot of stuff in the thing.
[748.68 --> 749.98] Microwaves, Wi-Fi.
[750.22 --> 753.52] Yeah, I was going to say, does it drop out when you turn the microwave on it by any chance?
[753.94 --> 754.34] I don't know.
[754.42 --> 755.32] Maybe that is it.
[755.56 --> 759.70] Because actually one of them going out is an LED light strip in the kitchen.
[760.02 --> 761.20] Now that I think about it.
[761.20 --> 764.52] The audience has kind of warned me about this.
[764.58 --> 768.16] Because I've gotten hints that, like, you've got to get the right Zigbee adapter
[768.16 --> 772.52] that has a really good antenna that is, like, sticking out from the box or something.
[772.58 --> 773.98] Like, I've seen some hints about that.
[774.06 --> 775.26] And I just ignored all that.
[775.82 --> 779.40] And I have a Zigbee antenna that hangs off of a USB hub
[779.40 --> 784.18] that is actually mounted away from the Home Assistant Yellow.
[784.32 --> 786.38] But it seems to be not strong enough.
[786.38 --> 791.46] And I think I, you know, now I think about it, it's in the cabinet with my Wi-Fi router.
[793.08 --> 795.38] And I didn't even expect this problem.
[795.58 --> 797.78] Because previously I've been using Z-Wave.
[798.24 --> 800.68] Z-Wave is a proprietary standard.
[801.52 --> 806.50] But Z-Wave operates at 915 megahertz in the United States.
[806.50 --> 813.72] And while it is lower bitrate, I think anybody that's familiar with the old wireless phones
[813.72 --> 819.22] knows that 900 megahertz just goes farther and goes through walls more.
[819.56 --> 822.12] And 900 megahertz is just less crowded.
[822.40 --> 824.66] There's less going on at 900 megahertz these days.
[825.18 --> 829.00] And so I just took for granted how well my Z-Wave network worked.
[829.06 --> 829.70] I mean, rock solid.
[829.76 --> 832.12] I'm talking devices way outside.
[832.60 --> 833.74] You know, 100 feet outside.
[834.48 --> 836.16] Still connected and still reporting in.
[837.10 --> 838.46] Run for a year off a battery.
[838.88 --> 840.86] I kind of expected the same thing for Zigbee.
[841.62 --> 844.92] And that has not been my experience.
[845.04 --> 845.90] And man, it sucks.
[846.18 --> 847.48] Because it's several devices.
[847.70 --> 849.32] So it's a temperature sensor that's failing.
[849.46 --> 850.92] It's supposed to be monitored in my water bay.
[851.34 --> 853.04] And it's the light strip that's failing.
[853.18 --> 856.82] So sometimes we do the, like, nighttime shutdown stuff.
[857.36 --> 859.28] And I go to check on the kids and I realize,
[859.52 --> 860.98] oh, crap, this light strip's still on.
[861.06 --> 862.10] Like, the lights didn't turn off.
[862.10 --> 863.28] Oh, it's disconnected.
[863.90 --> 864.72] It's embarrassing.
[864.72 --> 867.48] It destroys the family acceptance factor.
[868.36 --> 868.80] Yeah.
[868.80 --> 873.14] So what I ended up kind of piecing together, and I'm still kind of figuring it out,
[873.32 --> 881.42] is if you get, this is true with Z-Wave too, if you get, like, a smart plug that's constantly powered,
[881.42 --> 884.80] they will most often act as a network repeater.
[885.38 --> 889.68] And they will rebroadcast the network and kind of make up for these gaps.
[890.06 --> 892.40] But I think you have to have a fair amount of them.
[892.46 --> 893.84] Like, quite a bit.
[893.90 --> 896.28] It has to be a pretty dense network of these.
[896.40 --> 898.32] In Z-Wave, that also wasn't the case.
[898.42 --> 902.74] But I think it's because the transmitters and some of these low-powered devices are just really weak.
[902.74 --> 907.16] And so you have to compensate by having a lot of mesh coverage.
[907.16 --> 912.32] But your house for a bus or an RV is big.
[912.38 --> 915.04] But for a home, it's pretty small, right?
[915.58 --> 917.18] So you shouldn't be having this problem with it.
[917.74 --> 920.18] I mean, we do have a lot of Wi-Fi in the area.
[920.30 --> 923.22] So maybe it's just a lot of radio noise.
[923.30 --> 926.64] Maybe it's because it's in the booth with my Wi-Fi access point.
[927.02 --> 927.32] Yeah.
[927.60 --> 928.60] Do you have 2.4?
[929.00 --> 933.30] I have a lot of my IoT devices that are on Wi-Fi on the 2.4 network.
[933.46 --> 934.00] Ah, right.
[934.80 --> 935.10] Hmm.
[935.76 --> 938.58] But Zigbee can use another frequency, right?
[939.10 --> 939.82] Yeah, I think there is.
[939.90 --> 944.14] And I think there's also something with Thread that is going to be part of the new Matter Standard that's going to help.
[944.14 --> 951.02] So I feel like there is solutions coming, but nothing that's here right now that I can use.
[951.06 --> 953.30] So I'm just kind of going back to Z-Wave devices for now.
[953.78 --> 955.76] For the most part, the Z-Wave stuff just works.
[956.32 --> 958.20] It's just there's more Zigbee things than ever.
[958.20 --> 960.50] I've been noticing just an increase in Zigbee devices.
[960.64 --> 961.96] I think it's probably because of Matter.
[962.16 --> 964.04] So I just picked up a new multi-sensor.
[964.16 --> 966.16] I love these Z-Wave multi-sensors.
[966.52 --> 967.58] And they have a brand new version.
[968.04 --> 973.30] And here's something else I've noticed is you really get what you pay for with these little edge IoT sensor devices.
[973.30 --> 977.30] And I'll admit, this Aotec Multi-Sensor 7, it's $70.
[978.12 --> 980.26] And if you really think about it, you want one for every room.
[980.50 --> 981.36] And this is expensive.
[981.36 --> 989.98] But I have also been comparing these to $19 sensors and $30 sensors, $40 sensors, and none of them are as good.
[990.70 --> 992.00] And none of them are as flexible.
[992.62 --> 993.66] So it's just a solid.
[993.76 --> 995.82] Aotec just made some solid Z-Wave devices.
[996.06 --> 999.26] Are you sure that if you crack them all open, they're not going to look exactly the same?
[999.62 --> 1000.02] They do.
[1000.20 --> 1000.40] Yeah.
[1000.58 --> 1001.56] They probably do.
[1001.80 --> 1002.56] Except for this one.