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[1169.52 --> 1171.70] because they just discovered that on their own
[1171.70 --> 1173.52] and I didn't even have to tell them about it.
[1173.64 --> 1175.36] And they have also the tablets,
[1175.72 --> 1176.96] but now they have it right there
[1176.96 --> 1178.04] on the device that they already have.
[1178.08 --> 1179.76] So why not have that additional integration?
[1180.88 --> 1181.16] Absolutely.
[1181.34 --> 1181.52] Yeah.
[1181.64 --> 1182.56] That's pretty cool.
[1183.06 --> 1185.52] For me, answers some of the biggest questions
[1185.52 --> 1186.24] I had actually.
[1186.30 --> 1188.76] And I've deliberately left all of this research
[1188.76 --> 1189.18] to do it.
[1189.20 --> 1190.14] It's kind of live on air,
[1190.22 --> 1191.00] live on the episode
[1191.00 --> 1193.50] to make it more exciting or something.
[1193.56 --> 1193.92] I don't know.
[1194.50 --> 1195.82] It answers some questions that I had
[1195.82 --> 1197.44] about how to actually integrate this stuff.
[1197.44 --> 1199.46] But when we were talking the other day,
[1199.52 --> 1202.30] you suggested that I might need an Apple TV.
[1202.50 --> 1204.18] And I know we touched on the iPad
[1204.18 --> 1206.32] and things like that as like a home hub.
[1207.04 --> 1208.22] Why would I need that?
[1208.86 --> 1210.72] Is that for the kind of relay thing
[1210.72 --> 1211.56] that you were mentioning?
[1212.54 --> 1212.64] Yeah.
[1212.72 --> 1215.12] So the Apple TV can act as that hub
[1215.12 --> 1218.00] and it will do a fine job
[1218.00 --> 1219.50] because it's powered on all the time
[1219.50 --> 1221.34] and you'll probably have it plugged into Ethernet.
[1221.40 --> 1223.50] So it's actually a really good device for that.
[1224.20 --> 1226.38] And they have a low power mode for it
[1226.38 --> 1227.16] and everything like that.
[1227.24 --> 1228.40] And there's even some information
[1228.40 --> 1229.46] when you go into the settings screen,
[1229.54 --> 1232.34] you can see like what its status is
[1232.34 --> 1233.56] as far as your HomeKit hub goes.
[1233.72 --> 1234.94] And when you put it on your network,
[1235.02 --> 1235.90] you plug it in.
[1236.34 --> 1238.24] If that's the first device you have,
[1238.38 --> 1240.32] if you don't like say already have a HomePod,
[1240.96 --> 1242.38] it'll just sort of negotiate
[1242.38 --> 1244.30] and it'll become the leader automatically.
[1244.46 --> 1245.04] You'll never know.
[1245.16 --> 1246.14] You never really have to futz.
[1246.28 --> 1247.06] It just does it.
[1247.72 --> 1249.88] Now I've just tried to add my robot vacuum
[1249.88 --> 1252.00] and it tried to pick that up as a camera
[1252.00 --> 1252.80] for some reason.
[1253.60 --> 1256.06] I think because of the map portion
[1256.06 --> 1259.44] that the Xiaomi RoboVac thing that I have,
[1259.64 --> 1261.38] Roborock S5 is the one I have.
[1262.28 --> 1264.82] And it's trying to use that map as a camera
[1264.82 --> 1266.34] and it's just failing and spinning.
[1266.64 --> 1268.70] And so this isn't perfect by any stretch,
[1268.80 --> 1270.48] but I can certainly see why this would be useful.
[1271.36 --> 1272.82] What I would do for some of those devices
[1272.82 --> 1274.66] is just disable them in HomeKit
[1274.66 --> 1277.46] because like, so say you have like my sensors
[1277.46 --> 1279.96] that have six different sensor feeds.
[1280.46 --> 1282.88] Each one of those will show up
[1282.88 --> 1284.10] as a device in HomeKit.
[1284.36 --> 1286.86] The humidity, like all of it just shows up as a device.
[1287.04 --> 1289.44] And some of it, there isn't like a parallel.
[1289.58 --> 1290.94] There's nothing in the Apple world
[1290.94 --> 1292.42] that equates to that kind of device.
[1292.84 --> 1294.46] And so I just disable those.
[1294.82 --> 1297.36] So basically it's like a one-time curation
[1297.36 --> 1298.40] where I go through and I just,
[1298.48 --> 1299.96] I take some stuff out.
[1300.02 --> 1301.74] There's a couple of different ways you can do that.
[1301.82 --> 1303.00] I don't remember the best way,
[1303.46 --> 1305.60] but I found it online by looking
[1305.60 --> 1307.78] and I just went through one time
[1307.78 --> 1310.06] and disabled everything that I didn't want
[1310.06 --> 1311.42] in that HomeKit screen once.
[1311.56 --> 1312.58] And it's been great.
[1312.82 --> 1314.20] But yeah, there is edge cases
[1314.20 --> 1317.34] like a device that has two camera feeds
[1317.34 --> 1318.04] and stuff like that.
[1318.08 --> 1319.96] But I think Apple only expects devices
[1319.96 --> 1321.30] to have one single camera
[1321.30 --> 1323.32] and those kinds of weird edge cases.
[1323.32 --> 1325.86] But when you're looking for like controlling smart devices
[1325.86 --> 1329.44] or lights or kicking off automations or scripts,
[1329.44 --> 1331.04] it's great at that kind of stuff.
[1331.62 --> 1333.78] But it doesn't fully replace
[1333.78 --> 1336.42] going to the Home Assistant web UI or app
[1336.42 --> 1338.92] if you're even a moderate power user.
[1339.70 --> 1340.80] I don't think it helps either
[1340.80 --> 1343.50] that my other primary HomeKit kind of ecosystem,
[1343.72 --> 1345.08] the Philips Hue stuff,
[1345.28 --> 1349.22] I recently replaced that with a Conbee 2 Zigbee bridge
[1349.22 --> 1350.74] and Zigbee buttons everywhere.
[1351.14 --> 1353.64] So, you know, the couple of low hanging fruit
[1353.64 --> 1355.30] that I had that would have worked
[1355.30 --> 1357.46] now don't work
[1357.46 --> 1359.76] because I've kind of taken that control back in house.
[1360.60 --> 1361.18] But as connect,