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[358.04 --> 358.48] GopherCon. |
[358.66 --> 358.94] Yeah. |
[359.70 --> 362.64] And you had this vision of, you know, Sourcegraph. |
[362.76 --> 366.18] And I'm wondering 10 years later, like, have you achieved that vision? |
[366.26 --> 367.78] Has the vision changed, et cetera? |
[367.78 --> 372.06] You know, our mission was always to enable everyone to code. |
[372.58 --> 379.28] And we actually took a look at our seed deck recently. |
[380.32 --> 381.54] You know, it kind of tripped down memory. |
[382.20 --> 383.10] It was very quaint. |
[383.26 --> 385.48] We were very bad at PowerPoint. |
[385.72 --> 386.88] You're probably a lot better at it now. |
[387.58 --> 388.50] Not really. |
[388.74 --> 388.76] No? |
[388.76 --> 388.86] Okay. |
[389.72 --> 390.78] Better at the pitch maybe. |
[391.14 --> 391.66] Maybe. |
[391.72 --> 392.60] You refine it just slightly. |
[392.60 --> 397.12] But largely, like, I could deliver that pitch today off that deck. |
[397.16 --> 397.34] Do it. |
[397.34 --> 398.48] It's basically the same. |
[398.48 --> 398.98] Do it right now. |
[399.28 --> 403.46] I mean, it's just the pitch of Sourcegraph, which is like there's never been more code in the world. |
[404.14 --> 410.58] Most of your job as an engineer or software creator is understanding all the code that already exists in your organization. |
[410.82 --> 410.98] Yeah. |
[410.98 --> 414.12] Because that is all upstream of figuring out what code you want to write. |
[414.26 --> 414.32] Right. |
[414.32 --> 417.56] And then once we actually figure out what you need to build, like, that's almost the easy part. |
[417.62 --> 418.60] It's also the fun part, right? |
[418.64 --> 418.72] Right. |
[418.72 --> 420.34] Because you're building new things and shipping stuff. |
[420.54 --> 426.72] But we help you get to that point of, you know, creation and enjoyment by helping you pick up all that context. |
[427.10 --> 427.24] Right. |
[427.24 --> 427.32] Right. |
[427.62 --> 429.28] Traditionally, that's been, like, search, right? |
[429.32 --> 430.76] Just like Google's been web search. |
[431.20 --> 434.60] But then these large language models have now come on the scene. |
[434.72 --> 434.90] Yeah. |
[435.38 --> 438.14] And in some ways, they're disruptive to kind of, like, search engines. |
[438.30 --> 439.82] But in other ways, they're highly complementary. |
[440.24 --> 442.68] So, you know, anyone who's used ChatTBT. |
[442.68 --> 443.20] I'm still Googling. |
[443.52 --> 444.34] I just less. |
[444.56 --> 445.18] It's just less. |
[445.44 --> 445.64] Right. |
[445.70 --> 448.50] It's more like the last thing you do when you can't get the answer elsewhere. |
[448.86 --> 449.14] Right. |
[449.30 --> 451.22] You're like, I guess I'll go Google it. |
[451.66 --> 451.94] Yeah. |
[452.06 --> 452.72] Although technically. |
[452.72 --> 456.92] Google is a weird thing because I will search a product and they think I want to buy it. |
[456.92 --> 457.82] Not research it. |
[458.46 --> 458.66] Right. |
[458.66 --> 462.74] It's like, I want to learn about the thing and those who are teaching about the thing. |
[462.90 --> 463.10] Yep. |
[463.16 --> 464.44] And how it integrates other things. |
[464.78 --> 466.48] Not where can I buy it and for how much. |
[466.58 --> 466.74] Yeah. |
[466.90 --> 468.34] So there's, like, zero context there. |
[468.40 --> 473.24] Like, they're incentivized, it seems, to point you to places that you can purchase it. |
[473.46 --> 473.60] Yeah. |
[473.60 --> 475.52] Not learn how to use it. |
[475.56 --> 475.98] Yeah, yeah. |
[476.06 --> 477.36] I mean, I think there's an interesting discussion. |
[477.36 --> 478.76] Which is the opposite of ChatGPT. |
[479.78 --> 480.14] Yeah. |
[480.14 --> 483.72] So there's kind of, like, pluses and minuses to both, right? |
[483.72 --> 489.30] Like, with Google, you get results to actual web pages and you can kind of judge them based |
[489.30 --> 489.92] on the domain. |
[490.16 --> 492.86] And it's kind of like more primary source material, which is useful. |
[493.02 --> 493.80] It's also live. |
[494.32 --> 497.52] You know, you get results from 2023 rather than 2021. |
[497.86 --> 498.04] Sure. |
[498.30 --> 499.26] Whereas ChatGPT. |
[499.52 --> 499.84] That'll change. |
[500.98 --> 502.10] That's a temporary thing, right? |
[502.18 --> 504.04] I mean, the delay will be temporary. |
[504.24 --> 505.36] Eventually, it'll catch up. |
[505.94 --> 508.96] Well, I mean, GPT-4 is still, it came out recently. |
[508.96 --> 509.78] 2021, right? |
[509.78 --> 510.36] It's still 2021. |
[510.36 --> 514.52] Right, but isn't the plugins and all that stuff where it's like, okay, the model is old, |
[514.66 --> 515.82] but it has access to new data. |
[516.02 --> 519.60] So the plugins is actually where it gets interesting because that's where things get really powerful, |
[519.70 --> 520.14] in my opinion. |
[520.28 --> 520.38] Yeah. |
[520.38 --> 524.12] Because if you ask ChatGPT with the plugins enabled, it can go and browse the web on your |
[524.12 --> 524.56] behalf. |
[525.48 --> 532.70] So it's not just the base model, you know, trying to answer your question from memory anymore. |
[532.86 --> 536.26] It's actually going stuff and essentially Googling for things, right? |
[536.26 --> 538.44] Yeah, it's like it has access to what you would do. |
[538.44 --> 539.26] Behind the scenes. |
[539.42 --> 539.66] Exactly. |
[539.66 --> 540.14] Yeah. |
[540.46 --> 540.86] Exactly. |
[541.06 --> 542.24] So it's the best of both worlds. |
[542.42 --> 546.88] And essentially, we're doing that with Kodi, but in your editor for developers. |
[547.22 --> 555.20] So basically combining large language models like GPT-4 or AnthropX Claude model and then |
[555.20 --> 559.16] combine that with power with the most advanced code search engine in the world. |
[559.62 --> 561.06] So it's the best of all worlds. |
[561.56 --> 565.82] It gives you highly context aware and specific answers about your code. |
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