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[1386.22 --> 1393.36] But it's like the most important thing is not just what you believe or your relationship with Jesus, but it's that you have a feeling of believing that thing.
[1393.36 --> 1401.94] And someone I know named Dave Fairchild, he's now a pastor, but he grew up in a very unchristian home, did not know very much about the gospel.
[1402.08 --> 1403.84] He was invited to a Christian conference.
[1404.84 --> 1408.18] And at this conference, there were speakers on the stage saying, come up for prayer.
[1408.26 --> 1409.00] We're going to pray for you.
[1409.08 --> 1413.26] And you're going to have a religious manifestation that proves you're a Christian.
[1413.26 --> 1418.40] And so he goes up and they pray for him and he's standing there and nothing happens.
[1419.16 --> 1420.30] There's other things happening.
[1420.44 --> 1421.58] There's people speaking in tongues.
[1421.72 --> 1422.86] There's a lot of things going on.
[1422.92 --> 1423.72] He's just standing there.
[1424.18 --> 1428.20] And he said, at that time, he says, I thought to myself, I guess I'm not part of it.
[1428.72 --> 1430.74] I guess this Christianity thing is not for me.
[1431.12 --> 1432.70] I didn't have the experience.
[1434.02 --> 1437.58] Jesus plus religious experience, it's real.
[1437.58 --> 1444.28] And I should also add, before I say some more, very few churches go out and say, hey, we're a Jesus plus community.
[1444.38 --> 1449.14] It's kind of built into the community and you sort of bump up against it and feel it more than you'll hear it.
[1449.68 --> 1456.28] Another one could be Jesus plus a certain political ideology or Jesus plus a certain political party.
[1457.20 --> 1461.28] And it's really what matters is the church lands this way on these political issues.
[1461.32 --> 1462.94] And if they don't, well, what are you doing here in church?
[1463.00 --> 1464.34] Like, this is what it's for.
[1464.42 --> 1466.70] And if you don't line up with this party, you're missing the point.
[1466.70 --> 1468.62] And that becomes the most important thing.
[1470.30 --> 1471.22] Or how about this?
[1471.34 --> 1476.94] Jesus plus a certain cultural way of doing worship on Sunday morning.
[1477.82 --> 1483.06] I mean, after the 9 a.m. service, I had several conversations with people about this one because I think it's close to home.
[1483.48 --> 1485.66] There is a way that you grew up, if you grew up in the church.
[1485.72 --> 1489.46] There's a way you grew up worshiping and singing and praying and the instruments you grew up with.
[1489.68 --> 1492.14] And it's those or it's wrong.
[1492.98 --> 1493.28] Right?
[1493.28 --> 1498.02] And there are some weird debates that people were sharing with me about things like the organ.
[1499.12 --> 1501.64] And if you didn't grow up in the Dutch community, you won't even know about this.
[1501.78 --> 1505.28] But, like, there are certain churches where it's like, if you don't sing with the organ, it's not even worship.
[1505.36 --> 1506.24] Like, what are you doing here?
[1507.12 --> 1510.34] And you can insert your own religious worship idol.
[1510.34 --> 1519.12] But, like, there's ways in which the way we practice our faith culturally becomes more important than the gospel itself, such that people will leave the church if they don't get their way.
[1519.80 --> 1520.52] It's painful.
[1521.96 --> 1523.64] All right, let's go after some more hard ones.
[1523.84 --> 1526.04] Jesus plus material prosperity.
[1526.04 --> 1533.10] This idea that, you know, if we follow Jesus, it's going to produce some kind of wealth.
[1533.18 --> 1535.32] It's going to produce some kind of benefit for me.
[1535.42 --> 1541.22] And if it doesn't produce that benefit, that material prosperity, well, why would I get involved in this community anyway?
[1541.88 --> 1544.74] And, again, no one's ever going to say this explicitly like I am now.
[1544.92 --> 1547.50] But there's assumptions like, okay, I'm in the church.
[1547.56 --> 1548.24] I'm doing my thing.
[1548.30 --> 1549.88] I better get blessed with some finances.
[1550.38 --> 1553.02] And if I don't, like, there's no reason to be here.
[1553.02 --> 1553.74] There's no reason to be here.
[1553.74 --> 1555.52] Jesus plus material prosperity.
[1557.04 --> 1559.80] And here's the ones that I find most personally challenged by.
[1560.58 --> 1562.60] Jesus plus safety and comfort.
[1564.22 --> 1569.08] It's hard for me to overstate how big those idols are in our city and in the church.
[1569.26 --> 1571.24] And I feel personally tempted by them.
[1571.62 --> 1575.68] And this is a related point, but I'm just going to say it as a sort of a confession.
[1575.68 --> 1591.16] It is so tempting for Canadian pastors and North American pastors in general to find ways to make the gospel and the teaching of the Bible palatable and pleasant to people who have the idols of comfort and safety.
[1591.76 --> 1591.98] Right?
[1592.00 --> 1593.84] You're not going to preach on the passages about suffering.
[1594.28 --> 1596.40] You're not going to preach on the cost of discipleship.
[1596.66 --> 1602.02] You don't want to talk about what you have to give up for following Jesus because, like, who's going to get involved in the church then?
[1602.34 --> 1602.54] Right?
[1602.54 --> 1605.62] Who's going to want to follow Jesus if this is what we have to give up?
[1605.68 --> 1613.24] And so we sort of repackage or renegotiate how we speak about the Christian faith to please people whose idol is comfort.
[1614.80 --> 1615.34] I know.
[1615.42 --> 1616.24] It's tempting for me.
[1617.00 --> 1618.02] I'm just being honest with you.
[1618.06 --> 1621.66] I remember David Platt, American pastor, he asked the question.
[1621.76 --> 1623.20] I felt the resonance right away.
[1623.28 --> 1628.02] He said, you know, if we didn't have comfortable chairs on Sunday morning, although I don't think Hope has that struggle.
[1628.08 --> 1629.18] We don't have the most comfortable chairs.
[1629.18 --> 1636.90] If we didn't have comfortable chairs and air conditioning and nice lighting and good sound systems and all this stuff, would people still even come for worship?
[1637.82 --> 1642.00] Like, if all the amenities of the Western church were taken away, and they're good things.
[1642.08 --> 1643.06] I'm not slamming these things.
[1643.10 --> 1644.20] I'm thankful for the microphone.
[1644.84 --> 1647.32] If there were no amenities, would we still gather for worship?
[1647.32 --> 1653.08] And this question really at the heart was, is Jesus enough?
[1654.28 --> 1661.80] Or do we feel this unhealthy way of saying it's got to be Jesus plus something else?
[1661.90 --> 1662.68] Insert your thing.
[1664.92 --> 1670.02] And to those who feel tempted like myself, Paul has one of the strongest warnings.
[1670.02 --> 1686.48] I mean, I just can't preach on Galatians 1 without Paul saying, just be aware that if you're preaching something beyond the gospel, the death and resurrection of Jesus, if you're trying to move beyond that as the final step of coming into the church, you aren't following Jesus.
[1686.48 --> 1691.34] You're not his church.
[1692.00 --> 1700.70] Or to put it exactly how Paul says it, if that's what you're teaching, if it's not what we've been teaching, let that person be under God's curse.
[1702.04 --> 1708.70] And if you want to hear some other hard words to churches that thought they were doing just fine when they weren't, read the letters in Revelation to the different churches.
[1708.70 --> 1715.12] And some of Paul's strongest words are to the wealthy, comfortable churches.
[1718.32 --> 1720.34] I told you Galatians was challenging.
[1722.68 --> 1724.46] But let me finish with the good news.
[1725.08 --> 1729.64] And this is what Paul wants to tell them over and over and over in the book of Galatians.
[1730.40 --> 1731.48] You ready for it?
[1732.14 --> 1732.96] It's simple.
[1732.96 --> 1737.84] The gospel of Jesus Christ is enough.
[1738.90 --> 1740.82] It's the final revelation of God.
[1740.92 --> 1743.70] It's the full forgiveness of sin.
[1743.82 --> 1745.36] It's all we need.
[1745.80 --> 1749.78] We don't need to add anything to it because it's all we will ever need.
[1750.28 --> 1752.12] Jesus is sufficient.
[1752.80 --> 1756.90] His work on the cross has accomplished what needs to be accomplished.
[1757.40 --> 1761.42] He has come for you and he has brought salvation and the work is done.
[1761.42 --> 1763.50] Again, Jesus is enough.
[1764.52 --> 1767.54] And I know we're not Pentecostal, but this is the point at which you can say amen.
[1768.14 --> 1770.38] Or to quote Nana from last week, they're free.
[1770.64 --> 1771.94] You don't have to pay for the amens.