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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238720 | [S1] Yeah, yeah, certainly. And, and the way that you express that as well, um, is, is you would want to elaborate slightly on, on why Prince on t-shirts are an example of being able to ex- express your identity. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] So you'd want to say something along the lines of, uh, for example, some students choose | 21.4 | 3.006105 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238720.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238721 | [S1] ... particular print on t-shirts that express a music choice or a political belief or an idea about the world, for example. [S2] Mm. [S1] So it's often, it's often about how you, um, how you frame your idea and your example. [S2] Sorry, I'm typing quite slowly and badly. For example, certain t-shirts may represent their taste in music, | 28.56 | 2.930295 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238721.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238722 | [S1] Exactly right, yeah. And so maybe actually just, uh, maybe we can kind of look at one more idea and come up with an example together, Keith, and then we can just continue with the lesson. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Just 'cause there's a few more things that we need to get through. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So, um, from, from a parent's perspective, um, we were t- we were talking about how, um, | 25.08 | 3.033482 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238722.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238724 | [S1] Nice. That's brilliant. It was a bit slow loading, but it's well worth, um, having a look at. The moderators have shared the link. We will also put the link in the notes at the end. There was another website, but given the time, I think we'll skip over it and I think we'll move on, Eli. Otherwise we will get- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... lost. [S2] Yeah, that makes perfect- [S1] So where were we? You were talking- | 22.24 | 3.356443 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238724.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238725 | [S1] ... Idiot. [S2] I think I've got this one. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna spoil it, but I think I've got this one. So we've got, "Dog speak up, no tree." [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] So I think- [S1] Dog speak- [S2] ... the, the final, yeah, I think the final emoji is a, a, a good clue, as is the first one. [S1] Yeah, dog and tree. [S2] Something about dogs and tree. | 24.48 | 3.039361 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238725.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238727 | [S1] What does it mean? So once in a blue moon means very rarely, not very often. Um, so I go to the gym once in a blue moon. Maybe once a month. [S2] Oh. [S1] Not very often. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] What do you do once in a blue moon, Eli? [S2] Once in a blue moon, let me think. Hmm. | 27.8 | 3.088608 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238727.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238731 | [S1] And that makes a, that's a much better system than focusing, for example, on one task and then moving immediately on to the second task. So read task two first, but start writing task one first. [S2] Wow. [S1] What do you think about that, Monty? | 13.88 | 3.137347 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238731.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238740 | [S1] That's very, very interesting. So I imagine the structure of your essay is very important, how you structure the different ideas there. And I guess that's something we're not looking at today, but something that we will touch on probably in Monday, next Monday's live lesson. And also, Eli, in your online course for IELTS writing, something that you cover, I know, in significant detail. But we'll talk more about that a bit later. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Great. | 28.52 | 3.334321 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238740.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238741 | [S1] And, um, and Keith, you and I were discussing the other day that actually there's a huge overlap between the, um, IELTS essays that you get in the writing test and part three of the speaking test. You often see the same question appearing in both parts. [S2] Yes. [S1] So actually by preparing yourself better for part three, you're also preparing yourself, um, for the critical ideas and critical thinking skills. | 28.68 | 2.999203 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p27_m4-dialogue_0238741.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341871 | [S1] And out of curiosity then, is the TOEFL, are the listenings all American accents or do you have like different country accents? [S2] Uh, so, so the TOEFL IBT, um, which is the traditional TOEFL test that everybody knows- [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] ... and according to ETS loves, um, is, uh, is, is the, uh, is pretty straightforward. It's all, it's- | 23.48 | 3.382593 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341871.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341876 | [S1] And, yeah, I mean, especially nowadays, you have to be able to communicate, you know, not just a country that the first language is English, but, you know, people who are both speaking their English as their second language, you know, that's what we're gonna do most of your communicating, actually, in my experience, a lot of people. [S2] Totally. [S1] Uh, yeah, so it's crucial. | 17 | 3.19095 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341876.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341878 | [S1] Uh, voice typing on Google Docs. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] You know, so if they use Google Docs, they can do voice typing and the, you know, they can speak and they can see if the, if Google Docs is recognizing what they're saying. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, but they have different English accents. And it, it's not just what you would imagine like UK and, and South Africa and, and Australia, but it's also like Nigerian English and Thai English and, uh, Vietnamese English. So they have these, the software that recognize- | 29.92 | 3.029211 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341878.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341880 | [S1] Not, no. My wife is Chinese. [S2] Wow. Okay. [S1] Yeah. And our daughter was born in Beijing, um, but she's a British national and we all speak Spanish. It's a bit of a strain. [S2] [LAUGHS] Uh, that's interesting. Yeah. My, my wife's Japanese. You know, we, the kids were born in the States, in America, in New York, but now we live in Japan and so the kids are confused a little bit. [S1] Right. Yeah. [S2] [LAUGHS] You know, so. [S1] Yeah. | 27.64 | 3.151439 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341880.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341893 | [S1] you know, why does the professor say this or, or, you know, what is implied about this? So it's, it's more kind of getting the gist of- [S2] Yeah. [S1] ... of what you're listening to in the structure. [S2] Right. That's interesting. So it's listening for gist is really important, um, for that. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah, both general and specific. Yeah, like, like so general in the sense of like the gist of the whole passage and more specific, like, you know, kind of why does the professor organize the lecture this way or, you know, what were the questions like here. So, | 29.88 | 2.859683 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341893.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341900 | [S1] ... passage. [S2] Right. [S1] That's an academic passage. So they can listen to it as many times as they want, but they should try to transcribe it. And, and that, that skill is just kind of building listening skills in general. Um, and, uh, also getting used to patterns in the way people speak. You know, maybe you, you don't notice when people, when some speakers bring words together, uh, that kind of thing. Drop | 22.68 | 2.940482 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341900.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341903 | [S1] ... 10,000 times. Have you heard of the 10,000 hours, right? That kind of idea of- [S2] The mastery. [S1] The mastery. It's, you know, not that students need 10,000 hours of English, but to master, uh, anything, yes, you, you need to put in time. Time and practice, I think. | 14.24 | 2.961595 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341903.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341906 | [S1] And it's really good because it has all sorts of stuff. It's very natural English. It's not scripted. And that's the other problem with films, right? Films are scripted. So they're not really- [S2] Right, right, right. [S1] ... really natural English. So you want to be careful on not just watching films. But, you know, looking for stuff that is, is, is entertaining. And, and I guess, | 21.84 | 3.359935 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341906.mp3 | [
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bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341911 | [S1] Yeah. [S2] It is tough and it's funny and it comes from, it comes from school, right? I mean, my, my daughter learns French at school and I, I speak French and now and again I speak to her in French and she says, "Oh, you can't say that, Daddy. We've not studied that yet." And I'm like- [S1] Right, right. [S2] But in real life, it's not just what you study, it's being exposed and being comfortable not knowing everything. Um, so, yeah, I, I think that is important actually, that you, you're, you're not obsessing and not, when you're listening, | 28.12 | 3.163415 | 24,000 | audio/en/bilibili_data_1343028093_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_BV1uk4y1K7Dh_p78_m4-dialogue_0341911.mp3 | [
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