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[S1] But at the same time, if you are a vlogger, the whole goal should never be views, views, views. It's good to set a goal and to be itching towards a goal and accomplish it and hopefully it gives you that satisfaction to keep going, keep motivating. But you also need a passion to travel. [S2] A lot of vloggers really don't seem to have that passion. [S1] You can make it without having a passion, which is interesting.
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[S1] Nice to see you, sir. How are you? [S2] Good. [S1] Wave. [S2] Hi. Morning. [S1] Have a seat, have a seat. Welcome, welcome to Google. Um, so let's, uh, let's kick off, no pun intended, with a little, little soccer. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Or for our international friends, football. You know, you, David, you really have had a global soccer career. I mean, you joined Manchester United at the young age of 17. You won nine major trophies in 11 years there, very impressive. You then joined Real Madrid, where you won another trophy.
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[S1] And then since 2007, you've been here in the US playing for the LA Galaxy, where last year you won yet another trophy. And I think that puts you in a very rare group of trifecta winners of three trophies on three different countries. So congratulations. [S2] Thank you very much. [S1] And then obviously while, while preparing to meet you last night, I heard, I read even more news last night, the big news, that you decided to stay here in the US and continue to play for the US, the, the LA Galaxy.
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[S1] Um, would be disappointing because I've been part of that growth, um, and I want to continue to be part of that growth. So, um, you know, it's, it's an exciting time, you know, and it's, uh, it's, it's great for the family as well. You know, great for the family to be here. [S2] Well, speaking of the family, I think we've all read how important family is to you. So, you know, what role did Victoria and the kids have in decision, in making this decision? [S1] I mean, they have, they have the final answer, simple as that. [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] ... is growing. Um, and, you know, to see when I first arrived, there'd be 12, 12 teams in, in the league. Uh, now there's 19. Um, there's stadiums being built around America solely for soccer, which is a, which is a big thing. [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, and, uh, that's, that's the exciting part of why, and one of the reasons why I wanted to stay.
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[S1] Why not? [S2] It's so simple. [S1] Like I said, it's, it's one of the biggest companies in the world, um, and it reaches so many millions of, of people and, and I th- I felt that, you know, it's, it's something that you always see when you open your computer. [S2] We like that. [S1] And, and, and something that I was really excited about. So, um, you know, like I said, I'm, I'm honored to be here with everyone and thanks for coming out 'cause, uh, there's a lot, there's a lot of you. Thank you.
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[S1] Congratulations on building a following here at Google as well. [S2] Thank you. Thank you. [S1] Um, so let's dig into some of the questions right away. You know, we'll start with football. Uh, Tao Muyi from California wants to know, "What is the biggest difference between playing football in America versus Europe?"
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[S1] you know, this game is starting to attract, um, the interest of some big names and big players in, um, in Europe. And I think, you know, th- there has to be a certain change with, you know, uh, some of the things that goes on throughout the league. But I think, you know, it's a league now where, you know, European teams, big European teams are coming over for their pre-seasons- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... and they're playing against us. So, you know, five years ago, you know, uh,
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[S1] Kind of the galaxy had been heard of, but I think now, with the interest of the players that have come over, such as Robbie Keene and obviously London Donovan as a, as a, you know, as a US star. [S2] Right. [S1] Um, you know, we've had that, that, that interest and it's, uh, it's exciting to be part of. [S2] Yeah, I think it must be great to see the growth, you know, see the change year over year in, in the speed and the power of the players.
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[S1] We have got a lot of talented players in our country and, uh, we're very passionate and it's where the game began in, you know, so for me, um, definitely, I, I think England are gonna win a World Cup at some point. [S2] America's just pacing themselves. [S1] The US a few years behind us, but... [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... a few years after. [S2] Exactly. JT?
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[S1] It might be a bit cold for a few players in, in December, but, uh, we'd do well. [S2] Oh, that's great. Uh, JT mentioned the charity game that you played, and I think, you know, we've seen you do a lot of philanthropic work throughout your career. I think we touched on it in the UNICEF work and the highlight video. And recently we saw that you were in Afghanistan visiting some troops there. Can you tell us a little bit about what that trip was and what you did there? [S1] I mean, I, I know it sounds...
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[S1] I'd prefer to, to, to go into the field and, and see the kids, you know, in Sierra Leone or in, in different parts of Africa and, uh, around the world and, and coach them because it's, it's making a huge difference. Uh, going to Afghanistan was something that I'd always wanted to do. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, to see the troops, of course, you know, and, uh, when I got, when I ruptured my Achilles two years ago, uh, I had some time off, obviously, and, and I thought, okay, I need to put that to,
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[S1] It is, it is amazing. Um, so moving on a little bit, as we look through all the questions that we got, you know, coming to you, I think, unsurprisingly, there were a lot of questions from people who were curious about your personal life. You know, I think- [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... when you marry a spice girl, I guess that happens. [S2] [LAUGHS] Yes, it does. [S1] Um, but I think, before we get to all of those, one of the more overarching questions that everyone had, and everyone wants to know, is what was it like to be at the wedding of the decade? [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] The royal wedding last April. I mean, what was it like to be there?
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[S1] and made everything and we had the product, um, all ready to go. And then H&M came in and they said, "Look, we can, we can make this better for you." [S2] Yeah. [S1] Uh, and, uh, and they did. You know, they, they're taking it to 1800 stores, um, 40 different countries. Um, and it's something that I could've probably, it'd have taken a few years, but, you know, wouldn't have reached that level of, uh,
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[S1] Uh- [S2] So that's exciting. You know, it's, uh, I'm launching it on, uh, February 1st, um, so it's gonna be exciting. That's, that's in London. [S1] So Super Bowl ad? No? Can you say- [S2] Uh, there's a Super Bowl ad. [S1] Oh. [S2] Uh, which is, uh, which is very exciting because, you know, the amount of people that watch the Super Bowl, um, actually is gonna see the advert. [S1] The worlds of football collide. [S2] Which is, uh, which I just thought about. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Gotcha. [S2] Very good, very good. Uh, one more question on this. Dina Co asks, are you feeling nervous about your first Google+ Hangout? [S1] Um, I'm not nervous, I'm excited. You know, being here today, I was ex- I was excited, you know, I woke up at 6:00 this morning and, uh, give the kids breakfast just before I left and I w- I was excited about it. It's, it's something that I was, uh, really looking forward to, so not nervous. [S2] That's good, I think for th- [S1] Why should I be?
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[S1] So we go back, spend seven years. Now I come back, I think it's time to do something in return. 'Cause I learned so much- [S2] Let's talk about that. [S1] ... 12 years ago. So why I should not talking to the young global leader of today, sharing with them how we gone through. [S2] Okay. [S1] So that was the thing. [S2] Let's start with where you are today. Just how big is Alibaba? How many people come every day? How many people come in a week? [S1] How fast is it growing?
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[S1] And, um, we grow from 18 people to 30,000 people, 18 people in my apartment, to now we have four big campers. Compared to 15 years ago, we were big. But compared to 15 years later, we're still a baby. [S2] [LAUGHS] How big will you be 15 years from now? [S1] I think 15 years ago, I told my team that, um,
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[S1] And I hope 15 years later, people forget about e-commerce because they think it's like electricity. Nobody think it's a high tech today. Now, this is something that I don't want 15 years later. We still walk on the street talking about why and how e-commerce can help people. [S2] You tried to get into three colleges. [S1] Mm-hmm. [S2] Each time they rejected you.
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[S1] You, you will never believe in, in Hangzhou, my city, there's only one middle school that last only one year. It was changed from primary school, middle school, because our graduates of our, our, our school, no university, no middle school accept us because we were too bad. [S2] Yeah. [S1] [LAUGHS] They will become a middle school. [S2] [LAUGHS] What effect did it have, though, uh, being rejected?
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[S1] I, I, I think that can be arranged. Um, Richard Nixon came to Hangzhou. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And after that, tourists flooded the place. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And that's how you learned English.
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[S1] And, uh, I think that changed me. Today, I'm a 100% made in China. I've never got a one day train outside China. [S2] Yeah. [S1] And, uh, people, when people talk to me, say, "Jack, how can you speak English like that? Why sometimes you, you talk like an Amer- Western guys?" I think that was the nine years. These Western for- tourists opened my mind.
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[S1] So I've been using them for that many years. [S2] Yeah. [S1] First visit to America, 1995. [S2] 1995, yeah. I, uh, I've come here for a project helping the local government to building up a highway.
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[S1] Good. So I went on the street, asked about 10, 20 people. They all know about Alibaba, 40 Thieves, and, uh, Open Sesame, and I think, "This is a good name." And start with A, whatever you talk about, Alibaba's always top. [S2] You have said before that in creating Alibaba, you had to create trust. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Uh, because people in China were used to face-to-face.
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] How did you create trust? [S1] I think, um, because we started about it between business and internet. I don't know you, you don't know me. So how can you do things online unless you have trust? So for e-commerce, the most important thing was trust. I think when I, when I first went to USA for raising money, talk to the venture capitalists, a lot of people say, "Oh, Jack, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[S1] You wire the money to me. And I don't know you. I give a per- person a package. I don't know him. He took something to so cross the ocean, cross river and sand. This is the trust. We have six, at least, at least 60 million trust happening every day. [S2] But you created it by creating an escrow account in the beginning. [S1] Yep. [S2] You know, and so you keep the money until they got the product. [S1] Yeah. [S2] And then you release the money.
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[S1] Stupid things you could do, but it's better. [S2] Alipay is a privately held thing. It's not part of Alibaba. [S1] No, it's a private. [S2] Let me talk about money for a second. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Uh, you have never gotten money from the Chinese government? [S1] No. [S2] None. None. [S1] I, I, I, I, um, I want at the beginning. Later, I don't want it because I think if the company always think about a picking money from all, all the, the government office pockets, that company is just rubbish.
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[S1] Think about how can you make money from the customers and market and then help customers succeed. That's our philosophy. [S2] No money from Chinese banks? [S1] No. No. I, I, at that time I want and now they gonna give me, I don't want it. [S2] Yeah. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] All right. Um, your relationship with the government. [S1] Mm-hmm. Yeah. [S2] What's your relationship? I mean, if they didn't wa- Here's what some say, uh, that you have existed in an environment that's not, you know, they have restricted competition for you.
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[S1] and you have the chance. So today I'm very talkative. That probably, this is why I talk to so many people. [S2] [LAUGHS] You were also seen in Hollywood. [S1] Yeah. [S2] What are you doing in Hollywood?
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[S1] Never give up. [S2] Never give up. [S1] People, people thinking he's done, but he knows what he's doing. And I was very depressed the day, year 2002 or three in the States, when I, oh, no, no, no, no, a bit earlier than that. I was very depressed when I, I could not find another way for the internet. And I watched the movie in my friend's home, Forrest Gump. When I see him, I think, "This is the guy we should learn from."
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[S1] that can help Chinese young people to understand. 'Cause one thing I told the Chinese people, uh, my, my friends, in American movie, all the heroes at the beginning, they look like a bad guy. But terrible things coming, they become hero. And finally, they all survived. China, if you buy movie Hero, all the hero died. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] So- [S2] It changed that. [S1] Because only dead people become the hero. [S2] Yeah. [S1] So nobody want be the hero. [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] And you saw Modi in India? [S2] Pardon? [S1] Did you see Modi in India? [S2] Not yet. I'm looking forward to that. [S1] So you'll go to India. Finally, there's this. Um, you're one of the world's richest people. Uh, your company is one of the world's richest companies. What do you want beyond Alibaba?
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[S1] Yeah, something wrong with me here, something wrong with me there. This guy has the hope. [S2] Jack, on behalf of everybody in this audience, uh, and a television audience around the world, thank you for taking your time to be with us. [S1] Thank you.
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[S1] Jennifer, thank you so much for joining us here today. [S2] Thank you. [S1] Your new movie, Second Act, takes on some pretty meaty workplace topics. [S2] [LAUGHS] Yeah. [S1] The idea of your career being, feeling stuck or barriers, either real or internal, that are stopping people from getting to where they wanna get. You have a million projects going on. There's so many different things you can do. Why is this a story that you wanted to tell?
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[S1] and you can break through any barrier. But sometimes th- that's a long road. That's a hard journey. [S2] Have you had that experience? [S1] I
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[S1] I mean, for me, there's been so many times, 'cause, you know, this business is pretty unforgiving- [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] ... when it comes to being rejected. You get rejected a lot. I say for the, you know, the 40-something movies I've done, you know, I've gotten 100 nos in between. And, and that's, that's just the nature of what we do. Maybe 400, you know? [S2] Yeah. [S1] Nos at this point. But it's, uh, it's definitely a feeling that I'm familiar with. Yeah.
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[S1] So do you make it a point when you're, you have so many people working for you or working with you- [S2] Right. [S1] ... you can make choices about who's on the set with you. Are you looking for degrees? Do you actively go out and look for people who don't have degrees?
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[S1] I never did, I have to tell you. I never did. I always went more with vibe and energy. And to tell you the truth, it, it's really about, I'm looking for a hard worker. A hard worker who's not afraid to work like 24 hours a day. [S2] Yeah. [S1] If that sounds crazy, it's 'cause we are. I am. [S2] Absolutely. [S1] And everybody who works for me [LAUGHS] as well. And then recently, as I've gotten more into kind of owning businesses and going from a licensing model to an, an ownership model, um, I realized I need people who have more business experience.
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[S1] And so, yeah, I've been looking more at that lately. [S2] Would you talk a little bit about that, moving from licensing to ownership? [S1] Sure. [S2] What made you make that change and what are you looking for? [S1] You know,
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[S1] and all that, you know, kind of everybody's adding is the money and kind of money you can get anywhere in a sense, right? That's, that's in, in private equity world and in the business world it's like, "Oh, it's just money," right? And you're like, "Really? It's just money? So I'm actually the thing that's- [S2] Right. [S1] ... you need? [S2] You're the product, yeah.
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[S1] Yeah, much less than that. Uh, that there was something wrong. [S2] But at the time it must have felt, you were, you're, you're known for your negotiating skills. You are, you know, you're dr- you drive hard, hard deals that benefit you. Now when you look back, are there things you said, "Oh, shoot, I shouldn't have done that." [S1] Well, yes, they really weren't. [S2] Yeah.
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[S1] Well, I guess we really weren't. [S2] Yeah. [S1] We really weren't driving hard deals. I think we were the ones who were like, they were like, they were driving the hard deals and getting all the money. And we were kind of like, "Oh, thank you." [S2] Yeah. [S1] You know, there's this, this thing with artists where we feel so much gratitude to be able to do what we love to do.
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[S1] Your career path as, I think if you look back, you know, incredibly successful, done a lot of amazing things. You've had ups and downs in your career. [S2] Oh, yeah. [S1] When you think back to those downs, how does it, is this the kind of thing that has a, um, is a hangover effect on you where you're like, "Oh, I don't ever want to go through that again"? How do you use those t- those points in your career which weren't great?
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[S1] I think my favorite thing that people have said is that they leave the theater inspired. [S2] Hmm. [S1] They leave the theater inspired. Uh, and, and that's my favorite thing about being an artist in general, is that you can inspire people to dream their own biggest dreams. [S2] That's great. Well, Jennifer, thank you very much for joining us. [S1] Thank you. [S2] This is terrific. [S1] Thank you so much.
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[S1] Yeah. We're, we're a, we're a very forward-thinking company, apparently, having you here when you were 16. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Um, oh, so I want to thank you for being here, first of all, from all of us. Um, this is really an honor and a treat. Um, now you're in the middle of your tour, um, for speak now, and, um, I know that you've posted some videos to your channel, um, sort of outlining your tour and specifically your trip to Asia. Um, and I want to show a clip from, um, when you were in Singapore. Now you're in Chinatown, but the Chinatown of Singapore. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Is that right?
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[S1] So, well, this isn't just our interview, right? This is also your fans interview, and you have some very rabid fans, the Swifties, right? I believe is how they call themselves. [S2] I know, I think it's so cute. They came up with that. [S1] They were very serious, by the way. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] They don't, they don't mess around. Um, they, uh, they submitted 30,000 questions, um, to this interview. And, uh, and over, uh- [S2] There's so many questions. [S1] ... over 100,000 votes. [S2] They're so curious. [S1] Yeah.
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[S1] Yeah, so we only can do a few of them. And we also have some from Google, but, um, uh, the big, biggest topic by far was songwriting, 'cause I think that a lot of your fans have a big connection to, um, the stories that you tell in your songs. And so let's start with that topic. And this one comes from PandaBearLover13. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] I mean, a lot of the usernames are not meant to be read out loud, so we'll just have to, uh, for... This is from Florida. Uh, which comes first for you as a songwriter, the music or the lyrics?
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[S1] That's a song I wrote sitting on my bedroom floor because I liked a guy and my parents didn't want me to date him. And so I got this idea in my head, it just popped into my head, "You were Romeo, you were throwing pebbles." And my daddy said, "Stay away from Juliet." And I didn't know where in the song that was gonna fit, but I just started there and I built out from there. And, um, it's crazy how the fastest songs that I write end up being my favorites. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, the ones that just happen in just a surge of idea, um, a surge of inspiration.
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[S1] ... and it's usually something I'm going through at the time. It's very hard for me to, um, come up with just some random metaphor for a situation if I'm not going through it or haven't recently just gone through it. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But, um, you know, I think when I was growing up, my mom was all, my mom talks in metaphor a lot. And so I think I grew up just understanding metaphor and just kind of loving that, how you could take something you're going through and
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[S1] Yeah. We had a lot of questions about, about the process from, um, budding songwriters, um, who submitted questions that are big fan of, fans of yours, um, from Buffalo and a bunch of different places. And, um, I mean, you know, we were wondering, is there, uh, one favorite part of the songwriting process that you have? I mean, is it when you get that idea or when you're sitting on the floor in the bedroom or, you know- [S2] Yes. [S1] ... when you're in the studio?
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[S1] Um, so that's my favorite part, is then when the song goes into its phase of being recorded and then being put on an album, and when you're playing it for people for the first time, when it comes across, those lines that you really feel are like, I don't know, like, zingers or like, say it really well. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, I love watching people's reactions if they, if they, if it comes across. Like, if they get those lines, I'm like, "Yes, I knew it."
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[S1] and proud enough of to give to my fans and, and say, "Here, you know, allow this into your life." It has to be like, it has to be two to two and a half years of writing. And that way you know you have your best stuff. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Because I'm so tough on myself. I drive myself insane writing records and, and albums because it's like, I'll write like 40 to 50 songs and then 13 or 14 make it. That's a lot of paring it down and making sure you're getting to the best stuff. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um,
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[S1] Ask them what they think. A lot of times, co-writing, you know, I write really well with people who don't even play instruments or sing, um, because, you know, a lot of times my best co-writers are just really great at giving advice. Like, "Do you think this chorus is too long?" "Yes." Like, "Thank you." [S2] Yeah. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] Uh, is there anybody you're working with right now that you could talk about?
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[S1] Yes. Um, you know, for me, since I write so much and I don't know what's gonna end up on the record, it's, um, I never wanna say, "Well, you know, wrote with this person," and, because then what if it doesn't make it on the record, but- [S2] Of course. [S1] Um, and then writing for some other people's projects, um, in which case I feel weird talking about it because it's like their project, so I wanna, well, you know. So yes, but-
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[S1] Um, this was a, a, a popular, uh, a lot of votes for this question. This is from Quadratic Formula in Michigan. It's appropriate for the Google. [S2] Wow. [S1] Um, do you sing your own songs in the shower? [S2] Ha. Yeah. [S1] Awesome. That's great.
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[S1] You know, like it's just, you're never, ever anywhere for more than two and a half seconds. So, you know, I've written songs in airport bathrooms on paper towels. I've written songs- [S2] What, what song was on a, on a bathroom towel at one point? [S1] Oh, it hasn't come out yet. [S2] Oh, okay.
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[S1] Yeah, the ideas, um, always end up in my phone because it has a great recording thing in there. And, um, you know, for me, it's like you just write wherever, whenever you can. And, um, that's been really fun for me because sometimes I'll walk into a hotel room and I'll be like, "I've been here. I wrote back to December here." [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Like it's, it's fun because you have these memories of writing songs all over the world.
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[S1] Yeah. Cool. Um, so I know a lot of your songs are very personal songs and, um, a lot of your fans are very interested in that stuff, but, uh, this one came from Michaela K. in South Florida. Um, has any guy asked you not to write a song about him before you went on a date? [S2] Not at that point in the relationship. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] I think that's interesting. That's a point in, in a relationship that you would have to have is, this is the part where I tell her not to write a song about me, you know? [S2] Well, and you'd think that they would decide that before asking me on the date or before we become a couple or before all this stuff happens. But it only occurs to, it only, well, him. It only occurred to him when, um, when it, when he, it occurred to him that it wouldn't be a good song. [S1] I see. Um, do you always write about, um, you know, people that you know?
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[S1] People get picked for different reasons, but it's, it's been crazy lately because a lot of people have been going for the costume route. [S2] Really? [S1] So we'll look out and like, my guitar player will like lean over to me and be like, "That girl is dressed like a chicken." And I, and like, I'm trying to find the meaning. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] I don't know why, but, you know, we'll look out and there's like a Santa Claus.
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[S1] And those, these are just the person had a Santa Claus outfit. [S2] Or like people who've like duct taped their entire body in neon duct tape. Or people who have just like made giant cupcakes around themselves and they're like, they're this big. Or people who have like dressed up from the mean video or something like that. But then there's just these ones where like the girl's dressed as like, there's like a clown and a starfish. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] And we're like, I don't know why, but I love it. [S1] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Like, and so there's, there's been a lot of costume stuff going on lately on the tour. So if you look around and you see someone dressed up as a giant cow and you don't know why, we don't know why either. But it's, it's welcome. [S2] Now, um, this is, uh, I Love Swift One from Toronto, another Canada question. Um, has a fan ever made you cry? [S1] Yeah. Um, you know, for me, like,
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[S1] And then you come through a year later and you're like, "Hey Lexi, how are you doing?" She's like, "I'm doing good." And then they, her parents update you and, and then you come by like a year and a half later and she's not there. So it's... [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Um, you have all these fans, uh, all over the world of all different ages and, and types and, uh, you know, when you were young, did you think there would be any other career paths that you were gonna take that, that you might not have ended up in this way?
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[S1] sand and like playing catch and it just makes the whole thing much more fun. Um, so I think that was my favorite one to make. [S2] Yeah. Were there any cool locations or anything, um, for many of those videos? [S1] Well, yeah, we went to Kennybungport, Maine, which was this little town that I've always dreamed of going to, and so shooting a video there was amazing. It's this little coastal town and it was, it was really awesome. I loved it.
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[S1] You can just do whatever, 'cause it's just you and your instrument. It's a really spontaneous part of the show. [S2] Yeah. Have you done any particularly unusual ones? [S1] Yeah. Um, you know, it's kind of unusual, unusual when I rap.
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[S1] I think Dear John has a fun payoff. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Um, if you go see the show, I, I really love singing that because in the end it's got this, you know, pyro-filled payoff in the end. [S2] Would you say those are two of the songs that get the crowd going the most or are there other ones?
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[S1] Um, I'd say, you know, you gotta come to a show because the crowds are really kind of steadily ear-piercingly loud throughout the whole show. They're amazing. Like, it's really hard to gauge, like, which is the moment that, that they're the loudest because they're just really, really loud. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] All the time.
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[S1] I, I watch a lot of TV. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Like a lot of TV. Um, and my favorites are like the crime shows where it starts out and, you know, you can't miss the first scene or else you miss, like, the discovery of this crime scene. And, and then, you know, the, the, like, twists and turns of it all. I love, um, CSI, uh, Law and Order, SVU, Without a Trace, NCIS, uh, Lock Up, Raw. [laughter] Like,
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[S1] 1860s and it's just this crazy, interesting read. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] Um, so that's what I've been reading lately. I'm, I'm sort of obsessed with history. [S2] Yeah. Well, let's talk about books for a second. One of the questions that we got actually from one of the, uh, future Googlers, uh, in the, in the audience, uh, was that, about how you wrote, uh, a novel when you were 11 years old? [S1] I was 14. [S2] 14? [S1] No, wait. [S2] You were younger? [S1] I was like 13, I think. [S2] 13?
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[S1] ... to hang on your wall. [S2] Right. [S1] And you don't go on tour so that you can, um, hang the sold out plaques up in, you know, your bedroom. It's like, it's, it's so many little stepping stones. And so many people have this idea that it's like you get discovered and then you get the record deal and then you record the song and then the song goes number one and then, you know, and it's like, it's never like that. Like, it very rarely is it like one thing leads to another, which leads to another.
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[S1] play your own instrument 'cause it's easier than dragging around like a karaoke machine. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] You know? Like when you're starting out, you have to provide your own background music and it's just so much easier to play your own instrument. [S2] Okay, cool. Um, all right, so we're gonna, we have one last question. This is a, um, this is a video question, another video question, and, uh, it comes from Chicago, Illinois. It's a little bit different than some of the questions we've been talking about. Um, so let's roll that.
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[S1] Don't worry. I'll have Charlie go in your place. Rest and get well soon. [S2] Okay. Thank you, Carla. Bye. [S1] Bye.
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[S1] Wow, that's a big one. I'm glad nobody got hurt and no buildings collapsed. Collapse. [S2] Me too. [S1] Oh my. Do you feel that? [S2] This must be an aftershock. Stay calm and let's get outside. [S1] Aftershock. Let's go. [S2] Wow, that's creepy. Where am I gonna go if you go that way?
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[S1] ... Pen-pole. [S2] Oh. I haven't had acne problems since high school. In high school, I had really bad acne. [S1] What did you do about it? [S2] I bought over-the-counter medicine at the pharmacy. When that didn't work, I saw a dermatologist regularly and took prescription drugs. [S1] Over-the-counter medicine. Dermatologists. Prescription drug.
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[S1] Take a sick day. Go see a doctor and get some medicine. [S2] Okay. I will do that. [S1] Rest well. Hope you get well soon. [S2] Thanks. Bye. [S1] Bye. [S2] [LAUGHS]
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[S1] Let me check. Yes, you have a collision damage waiver. That should cover the cost of fixing the dent. Please sign on the dotted line to confirm you returned the car. [S2] Collision damage waiver. Okay. [S1] Thank you, and have a nice day.
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