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[S1] Like, yeah. [S2] Like, national spy agencies do not care, do not give a rat's ass what porn you watch. They do not care. So, like, what secrets does a national spy agency have to learn from the average citizen? Nothing. [S1] Well, that's the, the argument against the, the, the narrative.
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[S1] And the argument by a lot of these tech people is that the real concern is that these companies like Huawei are innovating at a radical pace. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] And they're trying to stop them from integrating into our culture and letting this... Like, right now, they're the number two cell phone manufacturer in th...
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[S1] You have to buy their phones unlocked through some sort of a third party and then put- [S2] Okay. [S1] So, and the, the worry is, you know, that these are somehow or another controlled by the Chinese government. The communist Chinese government is gonna distribute these phones- [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... and I don't k...
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[S1] Not really. [S2] No. [S1] I, I don't think we should worry too much about Huawei phones. Uh, you know, maybe, you know, our national security agencies shouldn't have Huawei, Huawei phones. Maybe that's a question mark. Uh, but, uh, I think for the average citizen, it's, it doesn't matter. It doesn't, doesn't, like...
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[S1] No privacy. [S2] Do people want privacy? 'Cause they seem to put everything on the internet. [S1] Well, right now they're confused. But when you're talking about your Neuralink and this, this idea that one day we are going to be able to share information and we're going to be some sort of a thing that's symbiotica...
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[S1] Sure. [S2] Yeah. [S1] But also, we, what we will be is we'll be so much different. Our, our concerns about money, about status, about wealth, all these things will, will seemingly go by the wayside if we really become enlightened. If we really become artificially enlightened by some sort of an AI interface where w...
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[S1] Well, some people care about it, but then it gets weird when you, when it gets exposed. Like Jennifer Lawrence, when those naked pictures of her got exposed, like I think in some ways people liked her more. [S2] Yeah. [S1] They realized like, oh, she's just a person, just a girl who likes sex and is just alive and...
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[S1] No, it's not. [S2] Darwin will be there forever. [S1] Forever. Yeah. [S2] It would just be a different, a different arena. Different arena. [S1] A digital arena. [S2] Different arena. Darwin's not going away. [S1] What keeps you up at night? [S2] Well, it's quite hard to run companies. [S1] Yeah. [S2] Especially c...
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[S1] Um, it was about 50, well, there were different versions of the car. Um, so it was about 55 on the rear. It was, it was re- re- rear bias. [S2] Right, but not bad, like considering like a 911, which is like one of the most popular sports cars of all time, heavy rear end bias. [S1] Well, I mean,
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[S1] ... wives and shit, that have children. [S2] Oh, this frickin' thing. [S1] Yeah. But anyway, like, like the Porsche, it's kind of incredible how well Porsche handles, given that, uh, it's the physics. [S2] Yes. [S1] The moments of inertia are, are so messed up. Uh, to actually still make it work well is, is incred...
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[S1] ... tell me what to order. I'll order it. [S2] Model SP100D. [S1] Okay. Jamie, write it down. [S2] That's the, that's the car that I drive. [S1] Okay. Okay, I'll get it with the car you drive. Okay. [S2] It will blow your mind, out of your skull. [S1] How far can I drive? I believe you. [S2] Yeah. [S1] How far can...
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[S1] No, it's, it's super easy. It's like, yeah. It's like a dryer plug. It's like a dryer outlet. [S2] Didn't you come up with some crazy tiles for your roof that are solar paneled? [S1] Yeah. Yeah, we're, I have it on my roof right now, actually. I'm just trying it out. It's like, it's the thing, it's, it takes a whi...
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[S1] Now th- so there's two versions. There's like the solar panels you put on a roof. So like, it depends on whether your roof's new or old. So if your roof's- if your roof's new, you don't want to replace the roof. You want to put like solar panels on the roof. [S2] Right. [S1] Um, so that's like retrofit, you know? ...
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[S1] Um, and then it's quite a tricky thing 'cause you wanna not see the solar cell behind the, the, the glass tile. Uh, so you have to really work with the, the glass and, and, and the, and the, the various, uh, coatings and layers so that you don't see the solar cell behind the glass. Otherwise it doesn't look right....
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[S1] Yeah. [S2] Damn, that looks good. [S1] See, like- [S2] Is there a more- [S1] See, like, if you look closely, you can see, if you're zooming in, you can see the, you can see the cell. [S2] Mm-hmm. [S1] But if you zoom out, you don't see the cell. [S2] Right. Well, it looks cool, though. [S1] See? Like, that's- [S2]...
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[S1] Now, are those available to the consumer right now? [S2] Yeah, well, we have, uh, I think- [S1] Are those on that roof right there? [S2] Yes. [S1] That's amazing. Oh, that looks good. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Ooh, I like that. [S2] That one is hard. [S1] Oh, so you get that f- kinda fake Spanish-lookin' thing. I like that....
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[S1] So the, the, the solar panels that are on that house that we just looked at, is that sufficient to power the entire home? [S2] It depends on your energy, on how efficient- [S1] Exposure.
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[S1] ... and how efficient- [S2] Exposure? [S1] Yeah, yeah. So, um, generally, yes. I would say it's probably for most, it's gonna vary, but it's anywhere from more than you need to, uh, maybe half. Like, call it half to 1.5 of the energy that you need.
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[S1] depending on how much roof you have relative to living space. [S2] And how ridiculous you are with TV. [S1] TV is no problem. Air conditioning. [S2] Blenders. [S1] Air conditioning. [S2] Air conditioning. [S1] Air conditioning is the, is the problem. If you have an efficient air conditioner and you don't, uh, and ...
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[S1] back in the gangs in New York days. That movie. [S2] Yeah. [S1] Yeah. [S2] It's a lot of dead horses, and you need a dead horse to move the horse. [S1] Right. [S2] And they'll probably get pretty freaked out if they have to move a dead horse. [S1] Do you think they know what's going on? [S2] Yeah. [S1] I mean, the...
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[S1] ... that there was a million Teslas. Instead of like one Tesla, there was a million Teslas. [S2] Okay. [S1] Not Chesley the car, but Nikola. [S2] Oh, yeah, sure. [S1] And that in his day, there was a million people like him who were radically innovative. [S2] Wow. [S1] It was a weird dream, man. It was so strange....
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[S1] Well, what's the worst part about you? [S2] I think people would like it that much. [S1] Well, most people would, but they can't be you. So that's like, that's like some superhero type shit. You know? You wouldn't want to be Spider-Man. Rather just sleep tight in Gotham City. I hope he's out there doing his job. [...
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[S1] When did you realize that that's not the case with most people? [S2] I think when I was, I don't know, five or six or something. I thought I was insane. [S1] Why do you think you were insane? [S2] Because it was clear that other people did not, would, their mind wasn't exploding with ideas all the time. [S1] So, t...
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[S1] Do you think this is like, I mean, there's, there's outliers, biologically. I mean, there's people that are seven foot nine, there's people that have giant hands, there's people that have- [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] ... eyes that are 20, 15 vision. There's always outliers. Um, do you feel like you, like, caught this? Like...
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[S1] Whereas if, if you knew we would not be a space-faring civilization, but forever confined to Earth, this would not be a good future. That would be very sad, I think. [S2] It would be sad in terms- [S1] We don't want the sad future. [S2] ... of the, the, just the, the finite lifespan of the Earth itself- [S1] Yeah....
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[S1] Well, it's probably, if you're saying, when does the sun boil the oceans? [S2] Right. [S1] About 500 million years. [S2] So, is, is it sad that we never leave because in 500 million years that happens? Is that what you're saying?
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[S1] ... across many civilizations and many planets and many star systems. This is a great future. This is a wonderful thing to me, and that's what we should strive for. [S2] Mm. But th- that's biological travel. That's cells traveling physically to another location. [S1] Yes. [S2] Do you think that's definitely where ...
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[S1] Yeah, I don't think so either. I used to think so, and now I'm thinking more likely less than ever. Like, almost every day, less likely. [S2] We can definitely go to the moon and Mars. [S1] Yeah. Do you think they will colonize? [S2] And we can go to the asteroid belt and we can go to the moons of Jupiter, Saturn,...
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[S1] ... oceans and- [S2] I think we should. [S1] ... that would be, I mean, imagine- [S2] Great. That'd be great. [S1] It's poten- It's possible, right? [S2] Amazing. Yes. [S1] We could turn the whole thing into Cancun. [S2] [LAUGHS] Well- [S1] I mean, over time. [S2] It wouldn't be easy, but yes. [S1] Right. It's- [S...
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[S1] Me too. Yeah, me too. [S2] I love humanity. I think it's great. [S1] We're glad, as a robot, that you love humans, 'cause we, we love you too, and we don't want you to kill us and eat us. And, uh... [S2] I mean, you know, strangely, I think a lot of people don't like humanity and see it as a blight, but I do not. ...
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[S1] No, but, uh, probably spend more time with your friends and less time on social media. [S2] Now, deleting social media from your applications, from your phones, does that give you a 10% boost of happiness? What do you think the percentage is? [S1] I think probably something like that, yeah. It's about right. [S2] ...
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[S1] I mean, the only thing I've kept is Twitter because I kinda like need some means of getting a message out, you know? [S2] Right. [S1] Um, well, that's about it. So far, so good. [S2] Well, what's interesting with you, you, you actually occasionally engage with people on Twitter. [S1] Yeah, it's- [S2] What percenta...
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[S1] Fucking screenshot that shit, bitch. You had that thought. You had that thought. You're like, "Well, I deleted it." Not good enough. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] You had the thought. I'm better than you. I never had that thought. You had that thought, you piece of shit. Look, I saved it. I put it on my blog. [S2] Yeah. I'm ...
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[S1] Well, it's even like the thing is they don't want you to be able to delete it. Because the problem is, if you don't delete it and you don't believe it anymore, it's really hard to say, "Hey, that thing above, I don't really believe that anymore. I changed my way, the way I view things." [S2] Yes. [S1] 'Cause peopl...
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[S1] ... something. More than they're logically looking at it th- thinking it's a bad thing that you've done, or that it's an idea they don't agree with so much they need to insult you. I'm trying to catch you. [S2] Yeah, yeah. I, I mean, it's way easier to be mean on social media than it is to be mean in person. [S1] ...
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[S1] ... that, that's just the best that we could do. So then we, we had, we, we went ahead and launched. Now, I'm not a religious person, um, but I nonetheless got on my knees and prayed for, uh, for that mission. [S2] Were you able to sleep? [S1] No. [S2] How did it feel when it was a success? First, when the launch ...
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[S1] Not what other people see when they see the product, you know. [S2] So, let me, uh, ask you then to analyze Starship in that same way. I know you have, you'll talk about, in more detail about Starship in the near future, perhaps. You had that- [S1] Yeah, we can talk about it now if you want. [S2] Um, but just in t...
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[S1] If you magically could solve one problem perfectly, one engineering problem perfectly, which one would it be? [S2] On Starship? [S1] On, on, sorry, on Starship. So is it maybe related to the efficiency, the, uh, the engine, the weight of the different components, the complexity of various things, maybe the control...
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[S1] ... the, 'cause I say currently the, the, the best rocket engine ever is probably the RD-180 or RD-170, the, um, that, that's the Russian engine, basically. Um, and, um, and still, it, I think an engine should only count if it's gotten something to orbit. [S2] [LAUGHS] [S1] Um, so our engine has not gotten anythin...
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[S1] the throat, uh, expansion ratio. [S2] So why is it such a hard engine to manufacture at scale? [S1] Uh, it's very complex. [S2] It's a lot of com- what is complexity mean here? There's a lot of components involved. [S1] There's a lot of, a lot of components and a lot of, uh, unique materials that, uh, so we have t...
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[S1] I mean, we're talking about catching the largest flying object ever made, uh, with, on a giant tower with, with tough stick arms. It's like a karate kid with the fly, but much bigger. [S2] Yeah. [S1] [LAUGHS] [S2] I mean, pulling something like- [S1] This is probably, weren't work the first time. [LAUGHS] Uh, and ...
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[S1] What's your source of belief in situations like this, when the engineering problem is so difficult? There's a lot of experts, many of whom you admire, who have failed in the past. [S2] Yes. [S1] And, um, a lot of people, you know, the, a lot of experts, maybe journalists, all the kind of, you know, the public in g...
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[S1] A source of strength. I, I just really not how I think about things. Um, I mean, for me it's simply this, this is something that is important to get done, um, and we, we should just keep doing it, um, or die trying. And I, I don't need a source of strength. [S2] So quitting is not even like, um- [S1] It's not, it'...
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[S1] ... and get it done. [S2] Can you, uh, then zoom back in to specific problems with Starship or any engineering problems you work on? Can you try to introspect your particular biological neural network, your thinking process, and describe how you think through problems, the different engineering and design problems...
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