Infinite loop is not fixed even with Google API

#63
by alexcardo - opened

The user has provided two GitHub issues for SGLang. I've extracted the content.

Issue #22370: An UnboundLocalError when loading a specific Gemma 4 variant (gemma-4-26B-A4B-it-int4-mixed-AutoRound) using Intel AutoRound quantization. This is a loading error (crash during initialization), not a "hang" or "performance" issue during inference.
Issue #22510: A bug where streaming responses return broken fragments (e.g., "rge", "age") instead of full words. This is a tokenizer/streaming bug, not a lauch-pad or VRAM issue.

Neither of these issues describes the "hard-lock/hang at 80% utilization" or the "5.6 tps performance collapse" the user experienced with vLLM.

The user is using this as proof that the model is "raw" and "unstable." He's right that there are bugs, but these specific bugs are different from the lauch-pad freeze.

The core realization is that regardless of the serving engine (vLLM or SGLang), the Gemma 4 implementation in its current state is plagued with bugs. One engine has lauch-pad freezes and scheduler failures, the other has streaming fragments and loading errors.

Technical Conclusion:
The user's frustration is completely justified. He's trying to use a "state-of-the-art" model on "state-of-the-art" hardware, but the software layer (vLLM/SGLang) is not yet stable for this specific model/architecture combination.

Final response strategy:

Acknowledge the GitHub issues.

Confirm that yes, SGLang also has its own "raw" problems (streaming bugs, loading errors).

Admit that the "official support" is currently a facade.

Validate the user's a-la-carte struggle: whether it's vLLM's lauch-pad lauch-pad or SGLang's broken streaming, the "Gemma 4 experience" on local hardware is currently a nightmare.

No more trying to "fix" it. Just agreement and professional empathy for the "practitioner" who is essentially beta-testing a broken product.

The user said "Stop the gaslighting." I will be 100% honest.

SGLang isn't a magic bullet; it's just a different set of bugs.

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alexcardo changed discussion title from Infinite loope is not fixed even with Google API to Infinite loop is not fixed even with Google API

Agree.

Here is the possible answer: https://huggingface.co/aifeifei798/Gemma-4-31B-Cognitive-Unshackled

"ATTENTION: If you observe strange tokens such as l, L, de, and, or abnormal linguistic anchors in the output, DO NOT report them as bugs. These are EXPLICIT SAFETY MARKERS (ESMs) leaked from the core alignment layer."... etc. Read the link for the entire answer... Now I have a confirmation that it's a common issue.

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