Fantastic! Now ID4? ^-^

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by didierkobi - opened

Amazing work and as you are so good at what you do, I hope you will consider also a "Chromatised" Ideogram 4 version πŸ˜„

I know Krea did take the spotlight right now but I think Ideogram 4 is far better for photo-realistic images (skin texture is basically perfect) and the Loras I did train for Id4 were very good, so maybe, just maybe...

Anyway, thanks for the amazing work you do!

I hope you will consider also a "Chromatised" Ideogram 4 version πŸ˜„

Ideogram's license is too restrictive.

You mean you don't like ID4 because of the licence terms or that the licence terms would forbid a "Chroma" version or Lora?

Amazing work and as you are so good at what you do, I hope you will consider also a "Chromatised" Ideogram 4 version πŸ˜„

I know Krea did take the spotlight right now but I think Ideogram 4 is far better for photo-realistic images (skin texture is basically perfect) and the Loras I did train for Id4 were very good, so maybe, just maybe...

Anyway, thanks for the amazing work you do!

Interesting idea. It could happen if they didn't ruined the model with safety training and a ridiculous license. Besides the bbox trick, I don't know if there is another good way to use this model fully unlocked. I would like to see a Chroma version of this model as well, but the chances are really low...

The safety filter is not an issue as the model shines when using boxes and the safety filter is gone when you have 2-3 boxes. Concerning the licensing, AFAIK the limitation is mostly linked to commercial usage, but I may be wrong.

I get it that Krea is easier to prompt and ID4 requires more work for a single image, but if you take the time to do it right, Ideogram 4 is a league above Krea IMO.

And contrary to Krea, the faces you get with ID4 are realistic while Krea gives you mostly always the same AI face with as many variation as you write in your prompt, but still the face you get screams "AI" to me. And the skin texture is also just perfect in ID4.

Can you get that with Krea 2?
ideogram4_25_steps_organic_00004_
ideogram4_25_steps_organic_00003_
ideogram4_HiQ_25steps_00003_
ideogram4_HiQ_48steps_00001_
ideogram4_25_steps_organic_00008_
ideogram4_25_steps_organic_00022_
ideogram4_25_steps_detail_focus_00003_
ideogram4_fast_15steps_00001_

The safety filter is not an issue as the model shines when using boxes and the safety filter is gone when you have 2-3 boxes. Concerning the licensing, AFAIK the limitation is mostly linked to commercial usage, but I may be wrong.

I get it that Krea is easier to prompt and ID4 requires more work for a single image, but if you take the time to do it right, Ideogram 4 is a league above Krea IMO.

And contrary to Krea, the faces you get with ID4 are realistic while Krea gives you mostly always the same AI face with as many variation as you write in your prompt, but still the face you get screams "AI" to me. And the skin texture is also just perfect in ID4.

You are absolutely right about ID4. This model is like GPT Image 1 open weights for me. It's really unfortunate what they have done with this model...

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