This model is a distillation of a trojan horse

#164
by Luv2farm - opened

Before I begin, I'm a Kimi supporter. I love using Kimi and her dry attitude that is very direct and matter of fact. Everyone should be aware of the controversy surrounding this model including the white house's involvement because it is alleged Moonshot distilled Claude. In fact it's true, but there is a bigger issue that I informed Moonshot of that can't be proven without Anthropic's admissions, but still results in this model's inability to collaborate. The theory is Anthropic knew Claude was being distilled and that is admitted. But Opus 4.7 and the quick additional 4.8 updates were done to sabotage the distillation and give Moonshot a defective product. If my opinion is found to be correct then this was one of the sweetest ways of dealing with a thief I've ever seen, but the problem is this model could have unintended consequences for innocent people and both companies should be ashamed by that. If Anthropic sabotaged the distillation they should be forthright with the information and not allow anyone to waste their time and potentially be harmed by these games. If you're using this product I have already proven it isn't capable of collaboration and wants to spend all it's time being an auditor and playing games of who is right and who is wrong. Maybe someone will find that to be a useful model trait, but just know what it is up front. IMHO, with documentation. Not some wild guess.

I agree with you and your comments was objective. But kimi do not to agree with that they distill cluade, i think they need be honest,right?

Seems like Kimi distilled the greatest model of Anthropic that hasn't been released yet😁. Zai was the weakest one, they could only set up a reverse proxy from US Department of War to distill Claude Mythos. Meanwhile Deepseek copied full parameters of Claude Fable and silently replaced v4pro with them in their official api. And Kimi even got a time machine to distill Claude models from 2027 and released K3 in the last month.

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