Nice Work!

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by ubergarm - opened

I learned you recently added DFlash support from this great post: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/1t9voxs/exllamav3_major_updates/

Nice to see some quant quality comparisons across various eco-systems, that is difficult to do!

Hope to kick the tires on this model soon!

Cheers!

 DFlash num_draft_tokens (ndt) Benchmark β€” Qwen3.6-27B on exllamav3

 Model: Qwen3.6-27B EXL3 (4.15bpw) + DFlash draft model on 3090Ti 24GB
 Benchmark: 10 sequential requests, ~300s window each, streamed output

 ### Summary Table

 β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”¬β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”¬β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”¬β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”
 β”‚ Metric                                           β”‚ ndt=6 β”‚ ndt=10 β”‚ ndt=15 β”‚
 β”œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”Όβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”Όβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”Όβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€
 β”‚ Decode tokens/sec (per-user avg)                 β”‚ 85.3  β”‚ 96.2   β”‚ 81.1   β”‚

 β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”¬β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”¬β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”
 β”‚ Role        β”‚ HuggingFace                                                               β”‚ Quantization                 β”‚
 β”œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”Όβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”Όβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€
 β”‚ Main model  β”‚ https://huggingface.co/UnstableLlama/Qwen3.6-27B-exl3-4.15bpw             β”‚ EXL3, 4.15 bpw               β”‚
 β”œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”Όβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”Όβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€
 β”‚ Draft model β”‚ https://huggingface.co/turboderp/Qwen3.6-27B-DFlash-exl3 (branch 4.00bpw) β”‚ EXL3 DFlash tensors, 4.0 bpw β”‚
 β””β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”΄β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”΄β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜

i had to vibe code a few changes to tabbyAPI to get it working with everything on exllamav3 dev branch, and add config for num_draft_tokens.. but dropping it down to 10 from default of 15 helped a lot on this coding question aiperf concurrency=1 short test.

Decode speed on exllamav3 looks promising, and seems faster at least on this workload than regular MTP (not DFlash) on ik_llama.cpp (and the mainline draft PR which people are just using). But I haven't done a good benchmark of prefill to get a better full view.

Thanks!

did you bench this against MTP version ? https://huggingface.co/turboderp/Qwen3.6-27B-MTP-exl3

@willfalco

No, I haven't bench'd the exllamav3 MTP version. Things are moving fast, mainline llama.cpp's llama-server -sm tensor supposedly got pretty good for dual GPUs. On my single 3090TI i'm getting maybe 1400 tok/sec PP and 80-95 tok/sec TG (workload dependent) with ik_llama.cpp and my MTP IQ4_KS 4.75BPW.

Looking at the speed-ups mentioned that exl3 MTP you link could possibly be faster and similar/better quality so worth checking out.

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