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200 | eating meat means animals more are brought in world and they're more happy than sad over life therefore it's good to eat meat? |
201 | I say internet because no vegan has said this to me in real life, so I don't mean all vegans.
This seems to come from a single source, a talk from. Dr. Milton Mills in which he cherry picks aninals to make humans match up to an herbivore. Alternatively it will say frugivore instead of herbivore, but the reasoning is t... |
202 | Why must we avoid actions that causes death and suffering to animals? |
203 | Do Vegans who believe humans should not eat animals dislike carnivores? Or animals which are omnivores? Because if you think about it it's pretty similar to say a hunter shooting their dinner. |
204 | I've read a lot of vegans on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube and come to the conclusion that the aggressive, ALF supporters maybe bad for veganism as a whole. Sub genres of vegans show up when supermeat is mentioned or when dietary habits of dogs and cats are enquired. Gary Yourofsky's comments on the Nepal earthquake ... |
205 | I have seen a hash tag that asks people to name the traits that if absent in a human would allow them to be eaten. If a person doesn't have an answer then the conclusion says if we cannot name a trait we must not eat animals and thus are morally obligated to be vegan.
However, if I were to say the same thing about the... |
206 | I'm not here to debate in the sense to get you to agree with me nor have you get me to agree with you. (i'm stubborn)
But my reasoning for us to eat animal products is because we need vitamin B12. there's no other place to get it. The only place i find is 'fortified' food. which means before technology we would not hav... |
207 | no they don't see we got to the top of the food chain fair and square morality is an illusion and if morality does exist it's more moral kill them because you gave them a purpose give humans meat and you fulfilled that purpose by killing them animals have the privilege of being born with a purpose no I'm not a sociopat... |
208 | My choosing to stop eating meat will have no impact on the number of animals that suffer during the process of meat production. Giant meat corporations will, obviously, not adjust their supply of meat based on the changes in demand of one individual consumer. Even if tomorrow I were to renounce all animal products, the... |
209 | (This is a throwaway account.) I wanted to post in /r/Vegan but I wasn't sure if it's allowed. I understand why people are vegan, but as much as I want to say I also want to be a vegan "for the animals," I can't find a connection within myself to care?
I've watched so many videos on the meat/dairy/egg industry, and ab... |
210 | I came here just for a second opinion on what I think on veganism.
I just think that it's unhealthy to not eat anything from animals or plants.
You need to take nutrients from other things to survive.
Plus,I think the increased meat production can feed a lot of people who don't get enough food,and it would be bad to de... |
211 | **OVERVIEW**
Hi, /r/DebateAVegan! I'm not really here for a fight, but I am truly curious about how you guys feel about The Vegan Stigma and evangelizing veganism. I come from a place of 100% respect and I value your opinions and values.
As some background, here are some of my views:
- I'm currently an "omni"
- I *d... |
212 | I don't really see the pros of veganism. Convince me why veganism is better than other diets, and why I should go vegan. |
213 | I've been very passionate about the vegan lifestyle for 10 years, but recently I've been bothered by something....owning pets. Not necessarily the idea of having a pet, but that if you own a cat or dog, for example, you must feed them meat. This results in continuing the support of the meat industry. Can we start encou... |
214 | "Don't ask me why I'm vegan, ask yourself why you aren't." :P |
215 | A little dose of fun. 5 things why Vegans are awesome |
216 | I've been researching on veganism and vegetarianism, and to me, they really don't make sense. First of all, isn't veganism still killing plants, which are living beings? And what about the fungus and bacteria being killed in bathrooms while they are being cleaned. And isn't the natural order that meat should be eaten. ... |
217 | Humans evolved the way we are because of meat. Without it, we would not exist. Why should I stop eating meat now? It provides a majority of the nutrients my body needs to function in one convenient package. (I am using package loosely, I know meat comes from animals.) |
218 | Without using ethical arguments, why vegan over vegetarian? |
219 | I'm not vegan but I love animals and have the utmost respect for those who choose the vegan lifestyle. I'm curious to hear thoughts from those who are vegan/vegetarian on working in fast food or restaurant service.
Would you work for a restaurant/food joint that's main courses are meat? Would a hostess job be lesser o... |
220 | Hello people who are vegan for different reasons :) , i wanted to ask if you think less of people who eat meat? If so, what do you think of them? If not, how come? |
221 | Vegas, a lot of your arguments are great, but I think it breaks down when it comes to attacking thd "Plants are alive too" argument. You say that you draw the line at sentient living things. So plants don't count. You do realize how arbitrary this is, right? There's no reason or logic behind it, that's just how YOU thi... |
222 | /u/IlII4 requested user flairs, so I've enabled those. Please let me know if you think we need more options.
I have also disabled link posts. Looking at the submission history, it appears these posts tend to be off-topic and generally do not generate a lot of discussion. Linking to external content is of course still ... |
223 | Excluding humans. |
224 | Sounds stupid but I have a rather important question and the crux of the argument relies on vegans not eating snails.
In the end vegans (who choose not to eat/use animal based products because of their disagreement with harming animals) will still eat a salad.
This salad could be made from leaves which have been sur... |
225 | The meat industry, if only ethical farming practices are used, essentially allows for more happy animals to live than would be possible without a demand for meat. More happiness in the world, I would consider a good. What response would you have to a person that only eats meat that comes from sustainable ethical farmin... |
226 | Allow me to emphasize: This is a moral question, not an ethical question. I am not asking if it is moral to kill an animal for it's meat. I am not asking if it is immoral to harm an animal for it's meat. I am asking if, in your personal purviews, of course, is it immoral, by the simple fact, to eat meat.
I would assu... |
227 | Why do you think suffering is "bad"? |
228 | Most ethical arguments i hear about veganism are about "causing unnecessary suffering". Non-vegans then say that it's still better for animals to have a horrible life than no life at all, and the vegan argument is that you can't ask a non-existent animal if it would rather exist. The counter argument to this is that hu... |
229 | Just an FYI
So that's not really a talking point anymore
http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/prince-edward-island/pei-cow-farting-1.3856202 |
230 | I want to get to a point in my life where all my meat is derived from animals that I hunt, I want to get as far away from factory farming as possible and remove myself from perpetuating that industry. How do vegans view this?
I understand that the most common argument I hear against this is that you want to reduce an... |
231 | How do you guys feel about trapping? Where I live in northern Alberta trapping is a way of life for many people, and I wholeheartedly support it. I'm actually wearing a pair of rabbit skin moccasins right now lol. I haven't heard of anyone who doesn't support it so I'm just curious to hear what some of you have to say.... |
232 | Curious how vegans feel about eating insects and fungus...
Intentional and incidental :D
If fungus angle is weird, mycelium (mushrooms) can solve mazes with more accuracy and problem solving prowess than people can. Paul Stammets a leading mycologist as well as peers in the scientific community, are having trouble (c... |
233 | http://i.imgur.com/QFUBMcy.gifv
btw i'm vegan myself but really wondering. please try to see the principle in my question and don't attach too much to this very example. thanks ahead.
EDIT : animal a eats animal b - what do i gain by not eating animal a in terms of not killing animals ?
Edit 2 : cows eat chicken h... |
234 | Just want to hear people's opinion on the matter. Is it ok to force your children to be vegan? Like lets say they really want to eat foods from the cafeteria like the other kids or some other similar situation in which they want to consume a non vegan food. If you believe that eating animals is a terribly wrong act you... |
235 | Hello! I am not a vegan myself but do respect anyone that can maintain the diet. Personally I find meat and dairy to be more like a soda, cigarette, or alcohol. An indulgence? A vice? Anyway, I also recognize the huge amount of resources necessary to raise live stock compared to vegan options. It's something that ... |
236 | https://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/5kwfps/dont_make_fun_of_omnivores_they_have_a_hard_life/?st=1Z141Z3&sh=f15c5351
Tell me which part are serious and I'll be happy to debate them with you :) |
237 | Sorry I don't know how to word it exactly but I was curious if what I'm growing is vegan. I use animal manure, and sometimes other animal products like ground bone instead of chemical fertilizers. Does this make the veggies I'm growing not vegan? |
238 | Is it to eventually have a majority or everyone become vegan?
Is it to minimize harm done to animals?
What is the big picture is what I'm asking. :)
Edit: well everyone, it's been a pleasure discussing with you all, I'm going to bed now but will reply more in the morning, thank you all for your insights, and the mos... |
239 | Just curious. |
240 | I seem to find that vegans typically become vegan for either three reasons; Environmental, ethical, or for health.
I'm not looking to discuss the health reasons, but I'm curious to know about the other two (or other reasons). My question is, how does your view of modern, controlled hunting fit into this?
It's well kn... |
241 | I'll preface this with the fact that I'm in between a vegetarian and vegan for ethical reasons, with some more extremist views but some other very conservative views on animal rights/welfare issues.
I've been pursuing /r/vegan for a while and I keep seeing lots of anti-honey views. I'm not 100% sure on exactly why be... |
242 | First off, I'm not a vegan, but I do boycott the meat and dairy industries, because of their animal rights violations, carbon emissions, water consumption, etc. Which means that I don't have a problem with eating meat and dairy, just purchasing them. However, if I go to a party and somebody else offers me meat that the... |
243 | So let's say that 80% of people stop eating meat. What happens when the meat industry lays off huge swaths of the workforce? Can the economy handle that many people leaving the workforce? Is an animal's well-being worth more than the families of people who work in the meat industry? We've seen what happens when industr... |
244 | The crux of my question is whether you are a vegan because you feel it is morally good or because you feel eating animal products is morally bad. A analogous question would be do you practice christianity because you want to go to heaven or rather so you don't go to hell. I find it a tough question to ask in any situat... |
245 | Most things you do hurt others. Every thing you consume damages the environment or other living beings. I still prefer a car and cheap products over the "good" (local) ones. Why should I stop eating meat then? |
246 | Here are some vegan, vegetarian, *and related* food-reddits:
1. [veg](/r/veg)
* [vegan](/r/vegan)
1. [vegetarian](/r/vegetarian)
* [vegetarianism](/r/vegetarianism)
* [veg recipes](/r/VegRecipes/)
1. [vegan recipes](/r/veganrecipes/)
* [vegetarian_food](/r/vegetarian_food)
* [Vegetarian ketoers](/r/vegetarianketo/)
*... |
247 | So, I just wandered into this subreddit and I think it's a neat concept. Even if it does look a bit inactive.
My question is this:
Has anyone here with strong opinions about meat eating or veganism ever participated in the killing of an animal for food? If so, what species and how did it affect your views?
To start... |
248 | Stress and Meat Quality - not looking to argue, just wondering what a vegan's take on this is. Conclusion: if animals cared about being locked up in cages, the meat quality would be too gross to eat. |
249 | (x-post) An Example of Non-Factory Farm Meat Production. Do we want to discuss this? |
250 | I told my friends at work (during our typical lunchtime food debates) that if any of them shot any animals (went hunting), that I would no longer be their friend anymore. HR told me that was an "extreme" thing to say. I replied that I felt it was "extreme" for people to shoot animals. |
251 | So, before you jump to the comment box and yell at me, please bear in mind that I am an ethical vegan and I am just playing devil advocate here. I am asking the real, central question to our cause: why should someone care.
I would like to hear your reasons why someone should care about animals and I will try to refute... |
252 | what's your favorite food/meal? |
253 | Me and my dad hunt, we avoid eating any of the factory farmed preservative garbage. All of our food is organic and SUPER FREE RANGE. We try to make our kills as fast and painless as possible and we don't waste any meat. |
254 | There's not much debate going on here and I'm quite interested in some change of perspective stuff, so, dear vegans:
What would be your top 3 reasons to no be a vegan?
For me, it looks like this:
1. I really, really like the taste of well-prepared meat
2. Would be so much more comfortable for my family as well as fo... |
255 | I was wondering if these were considered animal products for you. Also how would you feel if a horse was used to plow a field to plant vegetables, are those vegetables semi animal products? Thanks. |
256 | Lets discuss this... |
257 | For many animals, if it is raised in an healthy environment that meets their physical/mental needs, I don't think that animal suffers. If after a while that animal is humanely killed and its body is used as food and other products, I don't see that as so terrible. Here's why...
Animals have sentience (feel pain), but ... |
258 | Playing devil's advocate here: do you think there are limits to which animals have rights? It seems to be a central philosophy of veganism (and PETA) that all animals should have human consideration to minimize their suffering, but are there limits to that consideration?
If your house has a termite infestation, is it... |
259 | If i find a dead deer on the side of the road and take it home and cook it am I wrong? |
260 | Vegan Ethics and Carnivorous Pets |
261 | What puzzles me about the ethics of veganism is that it seems to be drawing as much of an arbitrary line when it comes to the rights of animals as any other diet.
Any reasonable level of human life on earth surely depends on large scale agriculture (and nowadays urbanisation too). The landscape of most countries has b... |
262 | Why? What is the difference between eating prawns and exterminating roaches infesting your home? Both involve organisms with nervous systems, and arguably the latter activity involves more pain on the part of the organisms involved.
Why do prawns have a greater right to life than roaches? |
263 | So there's an amazing milkshake place in my city. You choose flavours from this really extensive menu and they can give you soya milk/ice cream at a slightly higher price. I went once before I was vegan and got soy instead of dairy just because I like it, but the flavour I went with was turkish delight bars, so defini... |
264 | Continuing from [THIS](http://www.reddit.com/r/vegan/comments/2l3r0n/got_a_new_dog_today_shes_the_first_of_ours_that/clswa57) discussion with /u/KerSan.
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> A person on a diet may feel hungry and does indeed need to eat, but they don't need to eat cake.
Picking up from this area of discussion;
This la... |
265 | So I had an interesting run-in with another vegan today. He's a vegan but he hunts deer. Not for sport or profit but conservation. You see here in Ohio (USA) we have a very large deer population and we killed out all their natural predetors a long time ago so the local government(s) encourage deer hunting to thin their... |
266 | What is wrong with using animals for food, clothing, etc. if it is done humanely? |
267 | So, I get killing animals and eating meat. I get milk and cow exploitation. But I seriously just don't understand how harvesting honey in a sustainable way is a morally wrong act. Yes, we're "profiting off the labor of those insects" but we people profit off the labor of other people too, and nobody seems to care about... |
268 | Of all the issues I have with vegans (mostly social ones) I have a lot of trouble understanding how one goes about reaching the vegan ideology logically in that **nature isn't vegan**.
Carnivores and omnivores have existed longer than humans as a species, so why would humans, an omnivore, go against their nature?
I a... |
269 | Many of these species have been breed so as to only be viable within a human farming.
They have been evolved under human pressures so as to specifically maximize meat production.
There is a reason why you don't see wild cows anymore. The species is only viable within human captivity.
What do vegans plan to do with... |
270 | I'm pro-choice on abortion politically because I think the consequences of the ban are worse than the act itself, but I'll admit that it makes me very uncomfortable, and given the choice for myself only, I probably wouldn't go through with it, especially if armed with scientific knowledge that at a certain point it mus... |
271 | That's my question. Pests = mice, rats; that will chew through things and poop on your stuff. This is a health hazard. |
272 | We polled almost 1,000 18- to 35-year-olds about their attitudes on sex on the first date and whether they've actually done it! 6XABuT |
273 | I've been on and off vegan. Cows and pigs seem intelligent enough.
And I do think the value of a life correlates with intelligence.
I'm unsure of chickens, so would side with "not ok to eat" to be safe.
Before someone inevitably brings it up, I do think mentally challenged people are an obvious burden on society. An... |
274 | Its known that some areas have very thin and low quality soil, are arid, and people in these areas generally herd goats, sheep and other types of animals because humans can't eat the grass there. As we know, grains and root vegetables don't grow everywhere.
What do vegans think about those kinds of situations? I mean... |
275 | If the goal of veganism is to reduce suffering and/or deaths, then the way to reduce this to zero woukd be to kill all life, thus eleminating suffering, or to commit suicide, thus taking a single life more and causing the fewest deaths.
If we accept that killing the planet and suicide are not a morally or ethically f... |
276 | Best Speech Ever Commentary |
277 | Is it wrong to eat meat? |
278 | What the fuck is your answer to that |
279 | eating meat means animals more are brought in world and they're more happy than sad over life therefore it's good to eat meat? |
280 | I say internet because no vegan has said this to me in real life, so I don't mean all vegans.
This seems to come from a single source, a talk from. Dr. Milton Mills in which he cherry picks aninals to make humans match up to an herbivore. Alternatively it will say frugivore instead of herbivore, but the reasoning is t... |
281 | Why must we avoid actions that causes death and suffering to animals? |
282 | Do Vegans who believe humans should not eat animals dislike carnivores? Or animals which are omnivores? Because if you think about it it's pretty similar to say a hunter shooting their dinner. |
283 | I've read a lot of vegans on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube and come to the conclusion that the aggressive, ALF supporters maybe bad for veganism as a whole. Sub genres of vegans show up when supermeat is mentioned or when dietary habits of dogs and cats are enquired. Gary Yourofsky's comments on the Nepal earthquake ... |
284 | I have seen a hash tag that asks people to name the traits that if absent in a human would allow them to be eaten. If a person doesn't have an answer then the conclusion says if we cannot name a trait we must not eat animals and thus are morally obligated to be vegan.
However, if I were to say the same thing about the... |
285 | I'm not here to debate in the sense to get you to agree with me nor have you get me to agree with you. (i'm stubborn)
But my reasoning for us to eat animal products is because we need vitamin B12. there's no other place to get it. The only place i find is 'fortified' food. which means before technology we would not hav... |
286 | no they don't see we got to the top of the food chain fair and square morality is an illusion and if morality does exist it's more moral kill them because you gave them a purpose give humans meat and you fulfilled that purpose by killing them animals have the privilege of being born with a purpose no I'm not a sociopat... |
287 | My choosing to stop eating meat will have no impact on the number of animals that suffer during the process of meat production. Giant meat corporations will, obviously, not adjust their supply of meat based on the changes in demand of one individual consumer. Even if tomorrow I were to renounce all animal products, the... |
288 | (This is a throwaway account.) I wanted to post in /r/Vegan but I wasn't sure if it's allowed. I understand why people are vegan, but as much as I want to say I also want to be a vegan "for the animals," I can't find a connection within myself to care?
I've watched so many videos on the meat/dairy/egg industry, and ab... |
289 | I came here just for a second opinion on what I think on veganism.
I just think that it's unhealthy to not eat anything from animals or plants.
You need to take nutrients from other things to survive.
Plus,I think the increased meat production can feed a lot of people who don't get enough food,and it would be bad to de... |
290 | **OVERVIEW**
Hi, /r/DebateAVegan! I'm not really here for a fight, but I am truly curious about how you guys feel about The Vegan Stigma and evangelizing veganism. I come from a place of 100% respect and I value your opinions and values.
As some background, here are some of my views:
- I'm currently an "omni"
- I *d... |
291 | I don't really see the pros of veganism. Convince me why veganism is better than other diets, and why I should go vegan. |
292 | I've been very passionate about the vegan lifestyle for 10 years, but recently I've been bothered by something....owning pets. Not necessarily the idea of having a pet, but that if you own a cat or dog, for example, you must feed them meat. This results in continuing the support of the meat industry. Can we start encou... |
293 | "Don't ask me why I'm vegan, ask yourself why you aren't." :P |
294 | A little dose of fun. 5 things why Vegans are awesome |
295 | I've been researching on veganism and vegetarianism, and to me, they really don't make sense. First of all, isn't veganism still killing plants, which are living beings? And what about the fungus and bacteria being killed in bathrooms while they are being cleaned. And isn't the natural order that meat should be eaten. ... |
296 | Humans evolved the way we are because of meat. Without it, we would not exist. Why should I stop eating meat now? It provides a majority of the nutrients my body needs to function in one convenient package. (I am using package loosely, I know meat comes from animals.) |
297 | Without using ethical arguments, why vegan over vegetarian? |
298 | I'm not vegan but I love animals and have the utmost respect for those who choose the vegan lifestyle. I'm curious to hear thoughts from those who are vegan/vegetarian on working in fast food or restaurant service.
Would you work for a restaurant/food joint that's main courses are meat? Would a hostess job be lesser o... |
299 | Hello people who are vegan for different reasons :) , i wanted to ask if you think less of people who eat meat? If so, what do you think of them? If not, how come? |
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