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Voice Numbers; The Road To Retirement April 5, 1987
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A rebuttal by Kerrang Khan (Edited for PWN)
Contrary to popular opinion, I actually have a reason for not giving out my
phone number. There has been enough bullshit about this "incident," and I
guess it's time I gave my side of the story.
I don't want anyone to have my phone number. Nobody in the phreak/hack world
needs it. I'm easily reached via boards etc., and if it is that important to
speak with me voice, loops and bridges do exist. It may be more convenient
for you to have my voice number, but I don't think its really worth the risk.
Face it, security people are getting serious about tracking people down.
Unless you move around the country on a monthly basis, you might as well
retire when your phone number gets 'out'. This is not to say everyone whose
number isn't secure is due to be busted but consider the following:
If I have your phone number I also have:
1) Your full name
2) Age
3) Address
4) Criminal record (its public knowledge)
As well as just about anything else that comes to mind. If I can do that,
just think what an investigator can do. As far as Psychic Warlord's policy of
no number, no access goes, well I think it sucks. Anyone here remember "The
Board" in 313? [See Phrack World News Issues 7-1 and 9-1 for information
concerning "THE BOARD" and its aftermath.]
I don't know much about Psychic Warlord and he doesn't need to know much about
me. Its his system, and he can do what he likes with it, but I hope this
isn't the wave of the future. Its a good policy not to leave phone numbers
when calling boards for the first time, and after that, you'll have to use
common sense. That is what it all comes down to, common sense. It seems to
be in short supply these days.
Post Taken From Metal Shop Private
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Metalland South: Phreak BBS or MetalliFEDS Inc.? June 2, 1987
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Metalland South BBS, at 404-327-2327, was once a fairly well known bulletin
board, where many respected members of the hack/phreak community resided. It
was originally operated by two guys from Metal Communications, Inc., but it
wasn't an MCI club board. The sysop was Iron Man and the co-sysop was Black
Lord. Recently, it has come to the writer's attention, that MS has come under
new management, new policies, and possibly a new idea; Sting.
Somewhere around September-October 1986, Iron Man removed all of the hack/
phreak related subboards as well as all G-philes from the system. He was
apparently worried about getting busted. The last time this reporter spoke
with him, Iron Man said he intended to put the hack/phreak subs back up. Then,
not long after this conversation, the number was changed (The original number
was 404-576-5166).
A person using the alias of The Caretaker was made co-sysop and Iron Man would
not reply to feedback. Everything was handled by The Caretaker [TC from now
on]. TC did not allow any hack/phreak subs, but said he would put them up if
the users would follow STRICT validation procedures.
Strict validation on MS includes:
^*^ Your Real Name
^*^ Your Address
^*^ Your Voice Phone Number
^*^ A Self-Addressed Envelope (in which he will send back with your account
number and password.)
It is obvious to see the ramifications here. A board or sysop gets busted and
then makes a deal to turn over the board to some company or agency. To make
sure that they get who they want, you have to give them all this info, and the
only you can get a password is to let them mail it to you, thus guaranteeing
that if something illegal is posted under that account, you are responsible,
no ifs, ands, or buts.
Now, with the always helpful use of CN/A and various other special procedures,
this reporter and several others have contacted the home of The Caretaker. TC
will not admit to being or to not being The Caretaker. He says he "may be."
Also, while speaking with to Taran King, TC tried to engineer Taran's phone
number three times, using trickery like "let's be friends, what is your phone
number?" TK gave the guy the MSP number, figuring everyone has it. Also TC
is older than 18 (estimated at age 30), and he has three phone lines in his
house. When called, he will not admit to who he is, who runs MS, or who is
the sysop of it. Also, besides begging for you phone number (or demanding he
call you). TC tries to trap you into admitting that you are/have committed
toll fraud. In TK's case, TC tried to get Taran to admit to using other
person's LD service PINs.
The whole aura of mystery around Metalland South seems enough to make it not
worth calling. I urge you never to call this system and never send in
information like that to any system.