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hmmm
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true but when you're in the city like even if you're near the wilderness you're still like in the city you know
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i've never been there
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yeah
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oh the other place's just santa cruz
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oh that's just supposed to be nice all the time so can't go wrong are there mountains around there
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uhhh huh
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hmmm i i mean
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mountain not like the rockies but
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right right
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yeah i'd like to go to cali
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northern cali bring it
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yeah
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the bay
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yeah i'm thinking i'm thinking somewhere down the line like when grad school seems like
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something i might be headed towards in the very near future i'd love to look at berkeley or something just because that sounds like a pretty great place to be
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oh yeah what classes are you taking in the fall
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i'm taking uhhh
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what am i take oh i'm doing my
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seor thesis urban studies which is actually going to be i'm i'm like ninety five percent decided ummm i've been meeting with like some professors about it so i've sort of committed to some some people about it so i might as well do it say i'm a hundred percent decided but
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hello
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you're a long number
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that's never ever happened before
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go
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that's how just put that
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so who listens to these by the way
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it's the way
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ummm
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your elected officials the government
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okay i'll take that as an invasive answer
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i guess not
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i don't they don't tell us
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really wow
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i like the idea of chak listening to this but i don't think i don't think he's going to hear this
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i was just thinking i don't
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i wish i would hear this maybe he'll hear us talking about him wanting maybe he'll get my telepathic messages
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ummm
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so metta i can't even take it ummm but yeah no so urban urban studies research thesis big project which will take over my life ummm but then also uhhh
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hmmm
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doing figure drawing which i'm looking forward to i think that'll be a a nice stress relief of sorts
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doing a book called
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i had a book a class called like history of the book no it's
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something of the book stories of the book i don't know but it's all about it's really it sounds pretty good it's uhhh professor stolibross who's an english professor he's like a shakespeare expert from cambridge came to penn a couple years ago and he he teach co teaches a class with david commburg who's a design professor in the fine arts school and ummm school design and
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their classes about like the history of books as like physical emities and
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so they just go back and look at all the different ways that people have like published
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pieces of paper with writing and pictures on them and it's about you know the physicality of them but also how like how that affects the content of them so it's i think it'll combine some like really fascinating lines of study ummm
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and then uhhh taking another urbans class on
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like urban systems of sustainability and design so it's like
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it covers covers a lot of things so i think it's like about urban design but also about ummm
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you know like
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like the ecology
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of how humans live in cities and like
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like create waste and manage it and use resources and whatnot so i'm sure it will go into like urban farming and food systems but also have to do with energy issues and
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kind of thing
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i'm taking one other course oh and then uhhh photo journalism which is taught by i'm drawing a blank on his name but the the senior staff photographer at the inquirer so
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i think that would be good
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that sounds like a great schedule a busy schedule
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yeah i'm like really excited i think i
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i hope my only concern is that my thesis will
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dominate everything
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so what's your thes
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so
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yeah it it certainly has to do with uhhh what i've been researching for this article it's related it's ummm are you familiar with the term sancuary city yeah yeah uhhh it's like a specific term though ummm that refers to well there was so there was sancuy movement which ummm got really popular in like the eighties and early nineties all across various cities in america ummm not just cities but uhhh basically it it came about as
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a bunch of mostly church related networks of organizations and churches and individuals inspired by liberation theology
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decided that under the nineteen eighty refugee rights act refugee act i think ummm
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that you know all these in coming immigrants from various latin american countries that were fleing
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both political unrast and violence along with economic violence were had the right to be considered refugees whereas the act was actually was made for mostly like indo chinese people fling like vietnam and you know spilover conflicts in cambodia etc so
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the thing is the government didn't agree with these people because all these latin american immigrants were fleeing countries that they were fleeing like dictors and regimmes that were all heavily supported by the us government so the government was in this i mean you could give them sympathy and you could say they were in this like tricky situation where uhhh you know they were supporting they they totally understood how all these immigrants like had a right to flee how they had a right to claim themselves as like refugees and deserve sancuary but they were they were getting sancuary from people that the us were supporting ummm due to like you know like the war on drugs and all that jazz ummm so you could also just say that the us government was uhhh being incredibly mache vallian and
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evil ummm but anyway so the sanctuy movement came about out of those circumstances and it the term sancuary city this is not the two minute version by the way sorry uhhh it came about and basically uhhh various cities
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set up laws that said you know like if you're an undocumented immigrant an illegal immigrant you know not supposed to be here like we're not going to bother you like you're safe here and various cities got deemed sancuary cities that kind of fell out of fashion or didn't it just ummm the original sancuy movement just kind of spottered out yeah as for various reasons which i will hopefully understand more in a couple months but uhhh now
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so you're investigating why
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well now there's a new sancury movement ummm which is a new wave of that which is coming across the nation in various cities and actually there's an organization a coalition that just formed last year in philadelphia called the new sancuy movement and i i did a little volunteer work for them this past spring ummm so i and i've been in contact with them for this article and they've been really great ummm and uhhh i'm going to probably be looking at the how the new sancuy movement and that's and that's come about out of primarily trying to create safe environments and sancuary for like mexican immigrants ummm although i mean from all over latin america as well a lot of guatemalans
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oh okay
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and et cetera but ummm
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but it it has to do with you know like there are people i mean our our immigration system is just totally messed up and so they're these are people who are adding their voices to the debate which obama just recently said is going to be in twenty ten as opposed to later this year which he had initially been saying ummm so it'll be a pretty hot topic i think and yeah so i'll be looking at how the new sancuy movement is informed by the old sancuy movement and ummm what kind of people from the old sancuy movement are now involved in the new sancuy movement who isn't and why you know like
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there's a big coalition of quakers in philly who are really really involved in the old sanctuy movement and they they're not now so yeah let's now let's go yeah
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okay
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you really have to move on
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but you can tell me more ummm
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did you read tom's article this week
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yeah yeah
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pretty interesting yeah
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is that interesting
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i'm excited
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what were you saying
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oh ummm so i was in new york yesterday and i'm i was planning to uhhh look at these two places ummm on from craigslist for like two weeks so starting i guess ummm august fifteenth this weekend and then uhhh running until september first and i thought that would give me like some time to be in the city and kind of check out areas ummm one was in greenpoint ummm with this artist these two girls one of them who's an artist is the one i met the other girl is going to sweden ummm possible option of extending but probably not ummm
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four fifty for half the month at the end she said she would bargain i could bargain her down so to maybe to three hundred which would be like six hundred a month rent which isn't which isn't bad ummm really nice area really awesome ummm like polish neighborhood with puerto ricans and like dominicans really cool area actually ummm
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and the other one was like in the lower i guess it's like trickka or something and this really just awesome apartment really awesome and the guy's like really amazing he's like an artist and does like robotic sculptures with sensors and like he's like thirty five and is like a professor at rizdy he's like really cool ummm but
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it doesn't really make sense it's three forty a week
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so six eighty for half a month ummm and in a kind of miracle thing i'm like walking around new york and i'm talking to oh my mom's my parents friends have an apartment in new york in the upper west side and my mom mentioned that i'm moving to the city and they were like oh does he need a place to stay slash he can always come over for dinner you know kind of like just letting her them know right no she was like you can stay here for a month the kid is gone our kid isn't in the apartment so there's an extra bedroom for you they're really chill i feel like it wouldn't really be an issue and i feel like two weeks would go by really quickly
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but it's two weeks overdoing it
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so it's kind of uhhh so i'm kind of in a dilemma it's a safe bet it's cheap it's free although i would have to probably i mean i could have meals with them but i probably couldn't like hang out in their kitchen and cook you know
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just rolling
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well two weeks is kind of i feel like it's normal for when people move to new york to spend at least two weeks couchsurfing and like and the thing about two weeks is if you rent a room for two weeks it's not like you're going to settle in you're not really you're just going to live out your backpack anyway you might as well be doing that on somebody's couch instead of paying and like
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yeah that's the thing yeah exactly
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yeah it's not going to be it's not going to get comfortable enough anyway yeah you're right
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like you could you could do the free thing with these people you could also probably you also probably know enough people that you could just stay a couple nights here and there and like play it by ear every day i mean but that would mean you'd have you'd need a place to put your things in which case maybe you'd want to hit up your friend's parents to store your stuff
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i could stay there
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right and have that as a kind of like long term place to put yeah it's true and then i could sleep yeah and then other nights i could yeah you're right
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you're right
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