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allowed to smoke inside an office if it's one person not anymore
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no it's
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smoking in
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principle it's it's a no smoking building you can smoke outside so you can go outside onto the balcony even the not even no
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regulation
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for all of the six
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thousand students
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on the roof maybe
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on the balcony normally there's there's
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that
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terrace
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andre
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there's no place inside the building wow at tpf is it's not a smoking campus but there are some places
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still some places with smokers but andre just re commend about your previous request i don't think that anyone will provide you information such as who doesn't want to be with whom that's a typical output of research and expert systems these are the views that you'll never get but you can get them through a proposal so you propose set up where people are with other peoples and they will find politically correct ways to tell you that they don't want to have a view on the mountains but they prefer to have view on the old town so they
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on the toilets or
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the toilets they prefer to be in another
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we we do have one constraint that's difficult which is gzela because when she's there she's very noisy she's on the's part it's na by the nature of her work that a lot of it
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is
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created yes martin said also for him and yeah especially for her yeah the in she's the interface
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and so that's a problem you're right because because we don't have a one person we don't have enough one person rooms for accommodating the admin place and if you put two person persons or three persons for the admin space who who who else will you put in there because we don't have any system manager or we don't have we have only one half part half time admin and no other non researcher positions if i'm not mistaken and this is really a piece of a problem maybe you could put some visitors but realistic
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in
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a think puting
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gzellla with the other admin of the school is not an option because we weren't offered excellent idea yeah it would be nice why we ask
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about
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that
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okay i'll try to find out but
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the researcher there that's just either you lose one position or you find another admin or a system manager
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yeah
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i mean there is certainly enough space down the hall all of those offices that where half of them are also half time and they're very underused so
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okay we'll try but all these are say sort of difficult questions because they involve changing also the offices of the school and you know people just don't want to change in general let's see maybe we can find some temporary well at least a proposal for gzella so since the one person rooms are quite well sort of desired by a lot of people you should probably
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that's not sure to me there are two options possible is either we can take one of the one person rooms for the admin because some of typically the professors have good reasons for sharing
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sharing
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either with a colleague or sharing with some of their one of their phd students in that case it's it's realistic then we could very very simply allocate the one person one of the one person rooms for the admin and that would solve the problem the other thing is to take a two person room for the admin that could be the one close to the close to the here in the center so
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the middle one here
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but no no no the other one the one up yeah one okay but then that
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the
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question of what do we do with the second position there remains fully open so i i would be more of the opinion to see whether it's it's so evident that let's say the at least the two full full time professors that are here on the list we have one here but maggie is not present if they really two yeah if
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because
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of personal preferences they would be happy with a two person room which might or might not be the case i mean it's certainly not something that we should impose but we can ask yeah because
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in this case yeah gzella could take one of the two person rooms and the other place would be for some kind of visitor it's not
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realistic neither i mean you have a foreign researcher coming visiting you and you will put him in the admin office ah
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okay you'
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will not do that mean maybe you can do that with an exchange student that's people yeah but you can't take a senior visitor and no to sit him in the secretary we inite invite
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negal
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and
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then we say okay you can sit with yeah
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okay okay so this sets a bit the stage for gzella then yeah we'll try to find out actually yeah maybe we should remind that quite a lot of professors at the at the school actually share their office with their assistant so it looks like sort of an implicit tradition maybe not except for every other faculty okay
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yes
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that's
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yes
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it is so every other faculty as far as i have seen their offices and the people that i know and that's in in law yeah socio economics okay it's they all have their own office i mean and and the law faculty they're at best there half time as we said
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it's really a matter of personal preference it cannot be something else can be imposed for sure
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okay so i think well this sets a bit the stage could we try so could you try please to do you want an extra piece of paper maybe try to well think on your own and then talk a little bit just to the people around you
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again andre i think that the only realistic way we can do is to speak for ourselves i can tell you according to what i know now where i would like or would be ready to be
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but
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i really don't see how i could decide for maggie or pierret or whoever else on the list so the point
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was to try to well just talk to them to david
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to do it like for the setu of meetings you you everyone receives that and should provide yeah i would like to be here and then you will have this multi constrained problem and you work during two hours and you
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ask
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people just for their place or also for the other people's place place
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i that's the important thing you want to know
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what
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about the the cafeteria i mean we' are going to play cafeteria with a projector and all this read together living room it's all together it's not the cafeteria
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so
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that's
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an open question whether it's at the origin it was supposed to be a pure reading room for relaxing reading the newspapers etcetera etctera there has been a very long discussion about that i think she this discussion is still vivid that some of the people i belong to these people would like to have a mixed room where you can have a reading room for sure but also a meeting room if necessary or as susan said a room an emergency room where you can put some visitors in a decent environment for for for work because you don't have any other place to do it but that's that's really an open discussion that i think no decision no final
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has been taken about that okay then for the next time try to come up either with your own preferences that's quite easy probably to state now that you know the constraints or if you can poll a little bit the people around you that would be i mean
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one that i don't want to have in the next room well just discuss
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yeah for instance i mean no no i was thinking just ask people around you what they think about this and i think yeah it would be nice to come with maybe a sketch of of these if you can do slides it's even better but don't be that formal and we'll try to at least build up one coherent proposal and we'll merge it with the other one when the other one is available
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i'll
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ask maggie and pierretfer
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one of the main well not main but one of the important features that we need to
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since they're not at the meeting i think it's
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and i'll try to
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we
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should first ask
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before finishing i mean we have a cafeteria or we don't need at all
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we don't have caf
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what do you mean by caf exactly
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what we can take a coffee also
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there is no coffee in the reading room no
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yeah we can bring your coffee in the reading room
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money for buying the coffee machine
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so so since maybe you're part time here and part part time at epfl there are at least two coffee machines in the building one at the third floor one at the first floor we can no automaticffe coffee so yeah no there's the cafeterias downstairs but they close at five five that is the main problem
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yeah
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but
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there's
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the two machines and they're the vending machines where you just put
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the
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and you can bring you coffee in theing room
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yeah maybe this is not a very bad timing could we try to meet next tuesday next tuesday maybe at maybe a bit later maybe at eleven o'clockit
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come on try
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try
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to be nice
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reasonin
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