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"The 40 hour work week is a warm fuzzy blanket to make bosses feel better. It doesn’t make the company any more money. The 80 hour workweek is a sweatshop. It only exists to make unhappy owners feel like they are getting their money’s worth, while simultaneously rotting the business from the inside."
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I think it's exceptionally hard to make Agile work in a client-vendor relationship, because of the particularities of the process: frequent communication, strict timeboxes, uncertain outcomes, etc. It can work, but requires a very tight integration. Too many clients see 'agile' as an easy way out of thinking about what...
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I can see the profit sharing being the main force behind the determination to put in extra hours especially when it gets more the more clients they get
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it's a pure ES8, post-modern, revivalist in nature, mvccvvmm-vc framework. It essentially decouples the model-controller-controller-view-model-view-view from the controller-model-model-model-model-view----controller, making it simple and intuitive, and particularly easy to use for geniuses and savants.
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I have never really gone on any social media sites or browsed non work stuff on a regular basis while at work. Never really felt the urge to do it. I'd only do it if I was planning on going out that night and I need to plan the schedule with someone. Maybe I'm in minority. There's definitely a 2 ish hour block in my...
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The truth is that high-achieving programmers are always on. They always have a background thread running, crunching away at a problem. Doesn't matter if they're skiing, showering, drinking, or fucking. It's like any other creative progression. Outside of situations where you just have a bunch of isolated, well-define...
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drlecompte
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I would add to that, that the amount of time spent coding a piece of software says nothing about its quality, except in very rote and predictable cases.
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But you are far better off teaching math that provides the same 'abilities' as programming (i.e. algorithmic thinking) as it can be applied in a myriad of other fields. This is why I don't understand why a lot of people are so ardent in teaching children how to code. Just teach them appropriate math instead, that way ...
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vegidio
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The moto of a lot of tech companies: "We are always looking the most brilliant engineers to join our teams, but they must be slightly stupid when it comes to negotiate their salaries and work schedule".
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justaphpguy
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After all those years, it's still ridiculous that MySQL cannot add new null columns immediately; it's a burden to no end for everyone.
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erikd
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I read the response. I totally agree that if programmers are spending 60-80 hours a week "working" they are probably being effective 20 hours or less a week. I'm fortunate enough to work at a place where people rarely if ever work more than 40 hours a week, but we minimize non-productive meetings and other stupid inte...
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drlecompte
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Also, programmers not giving a shit about the quality of their work because they just don't care is how you get 80 hour workweeks to get something that barely works out the door.
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sirin3
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I worked 80 hours/week on my open-source project. When you work from home and on weekend it is easy to reach. People work 8 hours on weekdays, many have 1 h commute both ways and 1 h lunch break. That 11h/day for a 40h week, at home I can keep working during these times and get a 55h week without any additional effort...
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HKei
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Yes, that's also in the article.
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kralyk
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There was also that time when the dining philosophers example [offended](https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/25585) some fanatic because it used "he" pronouns for philsophers, which had to be consequently replaced with "they". I have a huge respect for people in the Rust project for the way they handle community in...
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cbleslie
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... now all my future projects will start with R.
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probablyRickJames
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Hmmm
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Eirenarch
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I'm confused. It says "cross-platform" right there in the title.
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Stallman coined the term.
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Why teach when u can code for more lol
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wh33t
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It could be. I was not part of the profit sharing and I definitely didn't stay for the unpaid overtime.
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oh stop with this garbage. IT industry is already over-saturated with mediocre programmers. We don't need more people with CS degrees and 30K debt working in Starbucks.
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HKei
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Depends on what you're trying to achieve I guess? I can't imagine it ever being worth it for the things I do, even if I wanted to keep them 'closed source'. It's useless in terms of security, and if you're worried about your IP your code is probably the least of your worries in most circumstances.
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shundlet
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can you elaborate a little bit more, please? because i do not know any programmer who is able to be productive 40 hours a week. from what you are saying, i imagine you must be a super productive programmer with 8+ ongoing opensource github projects and lots of activity. i mean, you are coding 8 hours straight per day...
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Teach them that... when you are using programs you are working controls (tools) created by others. You can't ask the computer to do for you anything that they didn't already think of and setup for you in the program. When you are programming, you get to make your own tools that do what ever you want. Also, stop teach...
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choikwa
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The logical and principled approach and creativity aren't mutually exclusive.
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FlyingRhenquest
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Regular 55-60 hour weeks indicate profound problems with your development process or your company's hiring practices. The way you can usually tell is if you're in constant firefighter mode, it's your development processes. You can try to fight the fight to fix it, but there are plenty of companies out there that alre...
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SilasX
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Right. People usually cite it for "you don't realize how incapable you are" but forget the "you don't realize when you are capable" part.
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FlyingRhenquest
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I've noticed that the itis starts to set in around 2 in the afternoon. A cup of coffee will usually push it back to about 3, but any development after that is going to have a lot of typos in it.
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rigred
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So about that last paragraph. Its weirdly introspective. :P
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catsandcomicbooks
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Bruh I should get into coding. My shortest day is 10 hours! You fuckers are smart
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muuchthrows
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But wouldn't you agree that a lot (most?) software does not require consistent performance? I wouldn't write a serious game in e.g. Java (at least not the graphics/physics part of it), but I also wouldn't write a web app in C++.
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Dworgi
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I'm really not sure why you wouldn't write a web app in C++, other than that most people haven't done it historically. Could you explain?
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omgdonerkebab
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I'm not sure you know what humor is...
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ruindd
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> they could have just followed the logical tried and true path to solving a problem. This is very true. A lot of features just require you to add another, slightly different, version of some existing code. e.g. there already exists an API to give you a *Collection<A>*, but now you need to add an API call to ...
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Dworgi
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I'd strongly argue that their choice of Stackless Python was the absolute wrong choice, and that it has cost them 10-25% of their developer effort and cost over the lifetime of their product. We're talking hundreds of man years here, all because they didn't make the default choice of C++. And that's not even includ...
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ruindd
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> If you want passionate developers, make their work ~~the same~~ *as engaging* as their side project. You're totally right though.
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glanceaway
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I hear you, but still feel there are many things that are not actual programming, that are productive and do count as WORK work. Documentation falls into this category. So does taking a walk to ponder a problem. Why should the clock stop for these activities? I, and likely many others, have been asked "...how many li...
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glanceaway
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Sounds great, not my point though.
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FlyingRhenquest
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The last company I worked at that employed it said they were going agile, but they also prevented developers from working on whatever they wanted to out of the pool of work, and they forced them to take extra work on in the sprints. So they pretty much wanted to say that they were agile while being completely not agile...
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tfitz237
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"as far as desktop platforms are concerned" it says windows, ios, Android. Whereas electron works with macOS and Linux.
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NotUniqueOrSpecial
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I fucking hate this flavor of Quora question. Know why? Nobody would ever actually ask this question. It was *obviously* asked by the blog poster so that he could post his answer. How auspicious that someone happened to ask this question, he just happens to have a post ready on this, and--*what a surprise*--it happen...
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Ozwaldo
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I disagree with that. If you are passionate about something, more than 40 hours is *easy*. lunch/toilet/coffee? Dude I work 8-5, lunch is the hour in between. I don't take long toilet breaks, and I drink coffee while I work. Meetings I consider productive; where I work, they are collaborative efforts, not just tim...
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jacobbeasley
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I completely understand! Just keep learning and taking on greater responsibilities and the pay and opportunities will follow. Also, keep in mind that to large pay bumps, you may have to move companies and/or get promoted at your current company.
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myringotomy
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What I have learned is that the language doesn't matter at all. It's the support by the big players that makes it or breaks it. Javascript won because it's in the browsers. That's it. Not because it's elegant, performant, or correct. Swift and C# etc all "won" because the companies that made them pretty much require ...
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apekke
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Not to mention in programming there's about 100 different ways to solve 1 problem.
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stgeorge78
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What's the point, unless those children are born in India, they aren't getting a job anyway.
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stgeorge78
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Agreed, the number of candidates now coming out of code academies or from online schools with degrees worth less than the paper they are printed on is staggering... you will get HUNDREDS of shit candidates for a req because recruiters don't give a shit anymore, it's just a game of throwing as many people as possible at...
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doublehyphen
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It has not been discussed much recently on the mailing list. If I recall correctly the last time it was discussed the main worry was breaking the applications of people who rely on WITH materializing the sub query, for example as a primitive kind of query hint. I would love if we could remove the optimization barrier,...
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apekke
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Yep. Especially all the terminology you have to learn in the first few months to even talk programming lingo and articulate thoughts well.
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Ozwaldo
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Lol, no problem man. I'm not slow, I don't take drugs, and I know other people who can also work a full 8 hours at this job. I don't know you, but maybe programming isn't actually your passion? I've met plenty of coders who like *the idea* of programming; they like being able to make things and overcoming challenges...
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Psyladine
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"How we can Inspire More Children to Learn Plumbing?" Headlines you'll never read because the authors are ignorant to their bias.
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labdog
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I work more sometimes, but this makes me seriously damaged afterwards. I need a week off. And I'm sure as hell I won't ever do such thing for any asshole manager. Get lost. Now I work on my own because screw slavery. And screw the people getting most of the money when you do most of the work. They think they clever and...
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apekke
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That's the reason why it would suck in school though, they would probably be teaching you the boring basics and most kids in the modern age have a massively low attention span.
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Psyladine
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In fact your greatest job security will be the failures of others to write good code. Sort of a perverse rubric and the reason plumbers love all those amateur youtube guides on how to install piping in a new bathroom.
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geekygirlhere
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I completely agree with this. I have been teaching a coding elective to middle school kids for about 6 months now and 2 summers ago I ran coding workshops for kids. Reading comprehension, logic and critical thinking were lacking. All common factors from kids going to different schools in different cities. I think you c...
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nkomx
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You could parse them out of JSON... which is already a popular pattern in .net in general.
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Blac_Ninja
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I have never seen a university teach Basic as a main language, maybe an elective. There is a reason for that. Why would you give someone a language that is far more tedious and confusing to learn than something like Java/C/C++/C#/Python/Ruby? Is it Visual Basic that they are teaching them? If they want to use programmi...
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stgeorge78
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I think a modern high school should basically turn every class into a computer class. Way too much time is wasted in high school on useless classes. How many students will become Physics, Chemistry or Biology majors? Probably 10% of them... Combine those into a general Sciences class and use the extra periods to focus ...
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MoragX
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The get kids coding movement is so weird to me. Should we get more kids into plumbing? Or carpentry? Or dentistry? It's a profession like any other, there is no more reason for kids to know how to code than any of these other things. Learning how to use computers in general on the other hand I could get behind. Things...
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apekke
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Starting coding in first grade? That sounds like a nightmare...
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lechatsportif
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You dont, they just say they do and laugh to the bank.
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apekke
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I saw a nice lecture on programming that taught them the basic constructs and abstract ideas through Scratch, now I think that's stupid to teach it to older people but to kids they can grasp it way easier. It has a drag and drop interface so they don't have to type out code. Get him onto that and if he likes it, try to...
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Psyladine
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> I highly doubt kids are taught any kind of computer theory, whether it's how computers physically work or how programs work. Um I learned all that crap in 6th grade. Babbage, cannon shot calculations, JAcquard, BOMBA, ENIAC, Backus... Our actual programming consisted of BASIC lines. I even contributed to the c...
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achen2345
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> annecdotally, i've never heard of js devs being afriad of the DOM. if anything, javascript over-emphasizes the DOM, or at least used to. You and I must run in very different circles. From a scientific perspective the DOM cannot be avoided if you wish to work in the browser, but it can be buried under layers of a...
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scuzzy987
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Totally agree. If I get stumped I stop coding and take a walk outside or browse the web for a while. Most of the time the solution comes to me that way when I'm not actively thinking about it. If it doesn't I'll spend the rest of the day doing filler tasks and most of the time I've thought of a solution by morning. I'v...
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RogerLeigh
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"Download the internet" is certainly the description I've always personally held for maven. No complaints about pretty colours, but I'm still fairly ambivalent about the whole thing on the whole.
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> Most high schools offer programming classes as electives. Nope. The majority of US high schools do not offer programming classes at all. ([source](http://www.gallup.com/poll/196511/computer-science-classes-teach-programming-coding.aspx))
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jephthai
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That may be true of adults fresh out of college, as well :-).
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Psyladine
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Remember kids: unions bad, all men are islands!
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stgeorge78
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Why are we fighting 10,000 years of evolution. Women simply do not have analytical minds and that is not a fault we should be "fixing" nor is it something to be ashamed about. Their minds are far better at other things which is why MOST women gravitate away from STEM & programming. Let's stop making women feel bad ...
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wrosecrans
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If I look up the definition of the word "code" I get the first definition as: a system of words, letters, figures, or other symbols substituted for other words, letters, etc., especially for the purposes of secrecy. "the Americans cracked their diplomatic code" synonyms: cipher So it doesn't seem un...
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Berries_Cherries
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Agreed.
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twotime
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I've lost you: what syntactic difference are you referring to? Once a symbol is defined or imported from foo import bar it does not matter whether bar is a module, class or an instance of a class. The usage is the same (at least syntactically): bar.x()
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crybannanna
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Honestly, I think it's a good idea to teach a bit of plumbing and carpentry and biology (can include teeth) and computers. Not just how to use things, but how things work. Isn't that sort of the point of education? To understand how the world works? Computers are important, and code is how it all works.
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justanotherreddituse
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I'm a sysadmin like the above poster btw, though I'm dedicated to certain products we create. Yes our development process is fucked. I've pointed out major problems where we're going to lose proper compatability with browsers a year ago. There was also another code problem that needed to be fixed in order to properl...
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stgeorge78
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I'm pretty sure there will be a cottage industry for us old farts to go in and fix all the shit these kids are going to be creating.
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scuzzy987
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Ugh, there are way too many managers who believe butt in the chair and hours worked equals productive programmers in my opinion.
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Barrucadu
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> squash feature branches No, no, no! Squashed branches make bisecting so much harder. Rather than ending up at a small change (because a commit *should be* one logical change), you end up at a large diff implementing or rewriting an entire feature! > Automatically generating CHANGELOGs. Also no! [A changelog ...
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Blac_Ninja
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Are we teaching the kids this so they become programmers or so that they can better understand the world they live in?
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boogiebabiesbattle
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I think you're getting downvoted because you're missing the point of the person you are replying to. *One* of the definitions of code is a program, but the other is "cipher," information made secret through obfuscation. This dual meaning is why another word might actually be a more useful tool to convey the discipline...
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stgeorge78
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Getting started on that Commodore 64 was extremely easy and fun though - that's pretty much what's missing with today's walled garden phones & tablets. I think if you could plug your phone into a computer and it popped up a simple program with a blank screen and a reference manual on how to program simple stuff on ...
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Rock48
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Why doesn't every language have an array push/concatenation operator?
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stompinstinker
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Dude, you nailed it. They want it all, but it just doesn’t work like that.
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jack28791
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Why should more children learn coding? Why not woodworking? What is this idea people have that we should all learn to code? Coding is not for everyone just as woodworking is not for everyone.
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MEAT_FIST
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BUT MARISSA MAYER SAID SHE WORKED 100 HOURS A WEEK BY NOT GOING TO THE BATHROOM SO MUCH!!!!!!!!
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jpastore
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He wanted to learn bash. I'm like kid, idk if I can grab you that yet. I tried, and failed. I'll try your approach.
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Psyladine
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Neither? Why aren't we putting kids through automotive classes? Why can't every kid change a serpentine or a headgasket? So they can better understand the vehicle they're driving? Because noone cares. If it's broke, mechanics fix it.
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htuhola
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I was already hoping someone had come up with a better way to handle exceptions than "throw/except". Nah. Not in this castle. The `dec64` datatype with ten base exponents is a romantic idea, but unfortunately I feel that the train of number datatypes already went. We are stuck with whatever we have on current hardware...
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CptCap
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That's my point, once you know the actual classes/wrappers it's trivial. Peoples are still scared because of the 'No GC' thing.
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stgeorge78
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Yup, and magazines with programs you had to type in by hand to play that cool looking game. You learn quickly that precision is mandatory and at first you have no idea what you are typing in but eventually it kind of starts to make sense and then you are "modding" games and then you're making your own games from scratc...
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BLAHFUK
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Learning a programming language is easy. Teach them logic, and critical thinking skills
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p0nce
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https://p0nce.github.io/d-idioms/#Games-made-with-D
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BLAHFUK
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Today we will be building a compiler with only mov instructions! This is relevant to your daily lives
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