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null | NeutronRocks | null | Doesn't that match the 40 hour workweek convention? You're working half your eight hours each day (four hours) doing productive coding, and the other half (four more hours) meeting and doing other miscellaneous tasks. | null | 0 | 1491701318 | False | 0 | dg0ncwk | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0gjlm | null | 1493914872 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | saijanai | null | > And there you go again, making even more claims that aren't true, and are ridiculous on their face, and that you could have easily fact checked, but you are too intellectually dishonest and lazy to have bothered: "Captain Crunch included Phone Phreaking capabilities in the Apple ][ design". No, Captain Crunch didn... | null | 0 | 1491701387 | 1491701986 | 0 | dg0neht | t3_63z9ge | null | null | t1_dg0donr | null | 1493914894 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Ironfist | null | > You wouldn't scorn anyone saying 'everyone should learn how to do an oil change!
Not everybody *cares* how to do an oil change and it's not really an essential life skill.
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null | CyclonusRIP | null | OK. Good luck with all your fancy code. I'm sure it's really great. I know I'm constantly impressed by the quality of the popular scala libraries I consume, and then end up debugging because they fundamentally fail to do the thing they set out to do. I'm always impressed by their lack of need for tests because scal... | null | 0 | 1491701459 | False | 0 | dg0ng5q | t3_63zg6f | null | null | t1_dfzqhhy | null | 1493914915 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Draghi | null | Generally I've got about 4 hours of code in me, 1 hour of review and 1 hour of meetings (at most). The last two are filled with just trying to look busy.
If I had the last two off I could get home earlier, work on my hobbies, eat etc. and get to bed earlier so I'm more productive at work. | null | 0 | 1491701490 | False | 0 | dg0ngwh | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493914925 | 24 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | megablast | null | > In my experience, agile is frequently little more than a buzzword.
Then you haven't seen anyone doing it properly. | null | 0 | 1491701670 | False | 0 | dg0nl7b | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0atdh | null | 1493914983 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Jaxkr | null | >women simply do not have analytical minds
Wew lad. That's one of the most insane statements I've read on this website in a while.
Honestly, what caused you to reach that conclusion?
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null | NeverComments | null | You've only ever worked with dynamic languages so your experience with different languages and different types of problems those languages have is very limited.
After working extensively with statically typed languages many people find the "wild west" of JavaScript tedious and frustrating. Why should I ever need t... | null | 0 | 1491701736 | False | 0 | dg0nmx5 | t3_63zg6f | null | null | t1_dfz76ku | null | 1493915007 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | divertise | null | I'm late but this article and others like it are why my company requires ~35 hrs of work with time for personal stuff. It just doesn't work to push people to 40 | null | 0 | 1491701739 | False | 0 | dg0nmzk | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493915008 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Termy56 | null | Fuck the business. They pay me to do a job. My job just so happens to be related to writing code. I work from home. I have to tell you, its the best position to be in if you can manage it. As long as I get the job done, and attend the meetings I am supposed to, the rest is all up to me. Its awesome waking up and not ha... | null | 0 | 1491701754 | False | 0 | dg0nndx | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0lk2y | null | 1493915014 | 20 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | cdimino | null | "Agile sucks" mentalities are just as much a buzzword (buzz-phrase?) as Agile is.
Agile holds you accountable to your estimates and in a vacuum that'd be fine, but managers who suck will want to abuse their developers for not giving accurate estimates, a task that everyone here knows is completely impossible. | null | 0 | 1491701756 | False | 0 | dg0nnfa | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0atdh | null | 1493915014 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | fagnerbrack | null | ... as with the whole fucking industry. | null | 0 | 1491701813 | False | 0 | dg0noro | t3_64aogj | null | null | t3_64aogj | null | 1493915033 | 14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | four024490502 | null | "So like... we only need to pay the programmers for 20 hour weeks, right?"
-- Upper Management | null | 0 | 1491701913 | False | 0 | dg0nr65 | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493915065 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | StarManta | null | I work a schedule that is not far off from that (generally 10-5 with a lunch break), and the catch is that you have to be responsible enough that you can get your tasks done in a reasonable timeframe. It's reeeeeally easy in a job where you have that much leeway to just slip into doing nothing and then, whoops, the day... | null | 0 | 1491701941 | False | 0 | dg0nrsz | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg073r6 | null | 1493915073 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Ozwaldo | null | Damn, maybe this isn't the field for you...? | null | 0 | 1491701991 | False | 0 | dg0nsxt | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0nany | null | 1493915088 | -7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | PM_ME_YOUR_OLD_CMPTR | null | Pretty good article. Early optimization is talked about often but early abstraction isn't talked about nearly enough. This leads to code bases with lots of abstract classes and interfaces that are only implemented by one class.
It's normally not too hard to abstract things farther down the line as long as you catch it... | null | 0 | 1491702119 | False | 0 | dg0nvx9 | t3_64933v | null | null | t3_64933v | null | 1493915127 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | tr3v1n | null | > becoming more and more pervasive in our everyday lives. Shouldn't children be taught how these things function?
This is why everybody has classes in high school about personal finance, auto-repair, cooking and plumbing. | null | 0 | 1491702137 | False | 0 | dg0nwdy | t3_64815z | null | null | t1_dg06rwd | null | 1493915134 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | evinrows | null | I'm curious if you're including meetings in your 8-9 hours a day. About 20 hours of my work week are dedicated to meetings and I find them to be much more emotionally and mentally draining than coding. | null | 0 | 1491702188 | False | 0 | dg0nxow | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0czfe | null | 1493915151 | 20 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | scrogu | null | Well, if Microsoft ever moves to lock down their platform we will just move that much faster to Linux. | null | 0 | 1491702323 | False | 0 | dg0o0x2 | t3_63u4ag | null | null | t1_dfxx6gz | null | 1493915194 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dblake123 | null | You do realize that if you read any thing on Steve Wozniak, Bill Gates, Paul Allen you will read that they have spent 18+ hours per day behind a computer for some length of time. There are programmers out there who can write code for 12-18+ hours per day. I believe Bill Gates, Paul Allen, John Carmack, and Steve Woznia... | null | 0 | 1491702326 | False | 0 | dg0o0ze | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493915196 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kpws | null | math also isn't for everybody | null | 0 | 1491702408 | False | 0 | dg0o2xx | t3_64815z | null | null | t1_dg02nbq | null | 1493915221 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491702498 | False | 0 | dg0o593 | t3_64aogj | null | null | t3_64aogj | null | 1493915252 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | anon0108 | null | Layoffs
Implement Agile
Publicize burndown charts
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null | [deleted] | null | Season 4 is gunbgood. | null | 0 | 1491702651 | False | 0 | dg0o93t | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0fdqj | null | 1493915304 | 15 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | OnlyForF1 | null | There is no such thing as 10x programmers, just programmers who spend 10x less time on Reddit. | null | 1 | 1491702659 | False | 0 | dg0o9ae | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg04z1l | null | 1493915307 | -3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | foxlisk | null | The fact that coffee has upsides does not mean it has no downsides. it's a relatively high dose of an addictive drug. I'm not saying you shouldn't drink coffee, but don't pretend it is completely free of negatives.
Edit: y'all are fucking nuts. Caffeine is addictive, it has withdrawal symptoms and cravings associated... | null | 0 | 1491702662 | 1491704504 | 0 | dg0o9d9 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0meyd | null | 1493915308 | 34 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | bcastronomer | null | I would say coffee is healthy, it's the only thing keeping me alive at this point.
But in all seriousness black coffee has plenty of health benefits and is fine in moderation (like everything else) | null | 0 | 1491702722 | False | 0 | dg0oau8 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0k48k | null | 1493915327 | 11 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | phaeew | null | I definitely produce 100% top quality stuff in 2-3 hour increments unless it's a new project or hitting crazy impediments. If I get 2 of those runs in on any given workday, I can check out for the rest of the week. Sadly, between meetings and interruptions, if I get one in a week, it's surprising. | null | 0 | 1491702734 | False | 0 | dg0ob4p | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0mspi | null | 1493915331 | 20 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Tipaa | null | Not always; greedy is often more efficient to run and (nearly always) easier to create, and in certain tasks, the gains by using a much more complicated (read: slower, more bugs, less tested) algorithm are often zero (or thereabouts).
It mostly comes down to the particular task. Some tasks are suited for greedy algori... | null | 0 | 1491702794 | False | 0 | dg0oclc | t3_64815z | null | null | t1_dg0lnda | null | 1493915351 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | jacobbeasley | null | That is possible. | null | 0 | 1491702851 | False | 0 | dg0ody8 | t3_637m7q | null | null | t1_dfzfzf5 | null | 1493915368 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | beeeeeeefcake | null | > I have absolutely worked productively for far longer than the author describes.
Me too. But if I work 2-3 months of 12 hour days, I'll need at least a few months of light work to recover. | null | 0 | 1491702867 | False | 0 | dg0oecq | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0ebu4 | null | 1493915373 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | cdsmith | null | To be blunt, there is not an impending shortage of woodworkers in the U.S., and finding an interest in woodworking isn't going to help many children in poor families to escape a low-wage job market. | null | 0 | 1491702925 | False | 0 | dg0ofqj | t3_64815z | null | null | t1_dg0j6oc | null | 1493915392 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | roman_fyseek | null | I've been extremely lucky in my career that all of my jobs have been 8 hour a day jobs.
Oh, sure, there have been 12 and 24 hour days but, most of the 12s and 15s have been because I was in the middle of some stroke of brilliance and didn't want to lose it. Most of my 8 hour days were something closer to 9s. Sometimes... | null | 0 | 1491702927 | False | 0 | dg0ofs8 | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493915393 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | blasto_blastocyst | null | They haven't really been found. You sure you're not misapplying a sense of balance? | null | 1 | 1491702985 | False | 0 | dg0oh42 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0o9d9 | null | 1493915411 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Rentun | null | Why don't all children need to learn plumbing? I use a toilet literally every day!
Why don't all children need to learn advertising? The whole internet is funded by ads! | null | 0 | 1491703053 | False | 0 | dg0oip9 | t3_64815z | null | null | t1_dg0cbhh | null | 1493915433 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | mehwoot | null | > So 3 hours of real work, maybe 2-3 hours of bullshit clean up, and call it a day.
Which is still 6 hours of work a day? That's what I'm saying. There is more stuff to do than just what us programmers consider the "actual" or "real" work. Otherwise you'd be working 3 hours a day, since you're working from home,... | null | 0 | 1491703115 | False | 0 | dg0ok6k | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0nndx | null | 1493915453 | 41 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Nyefan | null | Oh, open offices are the worst. There's a guy 3 desks down who is constantly screaming at the top of his lungs about what a great programmer he is and how shit everyone else's code is. It pulls me out of the zone constantly, and all I can think about him is that, if he makes as few mistakes as he claims, it must be b... | null | 0 | 1491703130 | False | 0 | dg0okiv | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0mt3c | null | 1493915457 | 13 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ericgj | null | Afternoon nap. When i can get in even 15-20 solid mins i dont have this problem in evening. I feel that is the alternative to caffeine. | null | 0 | 1491703132 | False | 0 | dg0okk7 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0k48k | null | 1493915458 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | clockdivide55 | null | This is pretty awesome. I wish I had the guts to do something like this. | null | 0 | 1491703161 | False | 0 | dg0ol8w | t3_64ap2d | null | null | t3_64ap2d | null | 1493915467 | 33 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | aarkerio | null | > high dose of an addictive drug
That is just fearmongering. Be careful don't breath too much, you can get addicted to that thing called oxygen that is really really bad to your DNA. | null | 0 | 1491703236 | False | 0 | dg0on1q | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0o9d9 | null | 1493915491 | -14 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | doublekid | null | I could not agree more.
So much of my work is done, as the author says, "between my ears" - and definitely not during my work day. For me personally every bit of code I write is planned, drafted, planned again, rinse, repeat, etc, then eventually committed. The idea that more time pounding away on keys equals more pro... | null | 0 | 1491703315 | False | 0 | dg0ooxn | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493915515 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | sixstringartist | null | See, its shit like that. Fuck you too | null | 1 | 1491703621 | False | 0 | dg0ovzq | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0nsxt | null | 1493915610 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | lazy_jones | null | I don't doubt that many people - like the author - get only 2-4 hours of productive work out of their programmers on average. I'm pretty sure I did the same in my former company and so does my successor as CEO. But if that is the case, you're doing something wrong: your programmers don't work on interesting problems or... | null | 0 | 1491703657 | 1491704203 | 0 | dg0owuz | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493915621 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kkapelon | null | Or you can read the official documentation which says mostly the same things https://docs.docker.com/engine/userguide/eng-image/dockerfile_best-practices | null | 0 | 1491703690 | False | 0 | dg0oxlq | t3_64a7x0 | null | null | t3_64a7x0 | null | 1493915632 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | multiquine | null | This is a joke, right? | null | 0 | 1491703729 | False | 0 | dg0oyiu | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0dcux | null | 1493915644 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | CobraCabana | null | While I'm not a big fan of the push to get everyone involved in coding, I don't side with your conspiracy theory.
Most of the people I've seen with this agenda is trying to make software engineering appear more accessible to a larger audience.
For example, rather than getting mad at Google for not hiring enough w... | null | 0 | 1491703783 | False | 0 | dg0ozqs | t3_64815z | null | null | t1_dg06sk6 | null | 1493915660 | -2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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null | DonLaFontainesGhost | null | I get the most work done when I work from home. Yes, it's a more productive work environment for me, and yes, there's something of a morale boost.
But the most important thing (which is absolutely the opposite of what any "work from home" article recommends): I work when I feel productive. Whenever that is.
My gene... | null | 0 | 1491703941 | False | 0 | dg0p3b1 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0czfe | null | 1493915708 | 73 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | DonLaFontainesGhost | null | Once in a rare while the stars will align and I will actually grind hard for 6-8 hours. I'm making progress, I'm challenged, I'm figuring things out, I'm comfortable - it's all just *there*.
What always amazes me after one of those sessions is how fucking exhausted I am - I'll generally go right to sleep until the ne... | null | 0 | 1491704048 | False | 0 | dg0p5u8 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0gia3 | null | 1493915742 | 38 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | the_other_brand | null | That number is actually higher than I would expect. Remember that 57% of school districts in the US are in rural areas.
It costs money to hire qualified teachers and money for computers to run compilers, IDEs etc. | null | 0 | 1491704089 | False | 0 | dg0p6ry | t3_64815z | null | null | t1_dg0n3fq | null | 1493915754 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | AbstractLogic | null | Interesting discussion of the 40 hour work week.
The one thing I'm interested in expanding upon is the idea that employers want your best work. I highly doubt they do. Mostly they just want a working product that can start making money and continue making money and that's not a bad thing.
It's a tradeoff between ho... | null | 0 | 1491704124 | False | 0 | dg0p7l8 | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493915764 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LoneCookie | null | I'd say everything you mentioned uses the same resources as programming, aside from managing tickets or maybe documentation because you can autopilot through that.
I would much rather we had less meetings and socializing. I abhor distractions. Send me a message and I will reply when I have the time/I'm not in somethi... | null | 0 | 1491704181 | False | 0 | dg0p8xd | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0lk2y | null | 1493915783 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | BromeyerofSolairina | null | I start working at a place with an open office concept soon. You make it seem like you can slack off **more**, but wouldn't it be less? Can't everyone see what you're doing all the time? | null | 0 | 1491704276 | False | 0 | dg0pb5w | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0kav6 | null | 1493915812 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kpws | null | as are most js libraries and frameworks nowadays, to be honest | null | 0 | 1491704303 | False | 0 | dg0pbsb | t3_646fjo | null | null | t1_dfzsgmm | null | 1493915820 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | pyr3 | null | Have you tried just lattes _without_ the syrup? I've transitioned myself to this. You're basically drinking milk and coffee. | null | 0 | 1491704329 | False | 0 | dg0pcdt | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0mudi | null | 1493915828 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | NeverComments | null | I think the idea that you should be trained by your employer in skills which provide no value to them, but let you look for a better job, is just fundamentally ridiculous.
The entitlement there is staggering. | null | 0 | 1491704362 | False | 0 | dg0pd3x | t3_63zg6f | null | null | t1_dfzboq6 | null | 1493915838 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dimview | null | > How do you make them work longer hours?
A better question is "*Why* do you want them to work longer hours?" | null | 0 | 1491704467 | False | 0 | dg0pfjj | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493915871 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | itshotinjuly | null | You gotta learn to push back and/or pad your estimates by 2.5x to even 3x the actual amount of time it takes you to get it done. This may not be on you, personally, but on your lead.
I say this because there are plenty of time when a bunch of idiots throw unscheduled shit on your lap that's "urgent" or schedule bullsh... | null | 0 | 1491704474 | False | 0 | dg0pfpw | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0fsdz | null | 1493915874 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LoneCookie | null | I don't inherently hate marketing, but if you tell me this it gets a lot easier to fudge the details
How about we preach standards. | null | 0 | 1491704533 | False | 0 | dg0ph3y | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0mei3 | null | 1493915893 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mr-Yellow | null | > Now, if you look at a programmer working a 30 or 40 hour week, they will still get the same 2-4 hours of work done a day, but they will manage to be in fewer meetings, browse less, and will still look busy to keep the boss happy.
While their stress level will be much higher due to the "looking busy" time wasting.... | null | 0 | 1491704563 | False | 0 | dg0phth | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493915902 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LPTK | null | No, that's the point of collect. If that doesn't match, it doesn't raise a `MatchError` but makes the future handle the failure.
> You need at least two more closures to produce something that is safe code
Come now. This is perfectly safe:
x.collect { case Success(Some(u)) => u.name } .foreach(println) | null | 0 | 1491704604 | False | 0 | dg0pirr | t3_63zg6f | null | null | t1_dg0mrbj | null | 1493915914 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | jackmott2 | null | and, by not doing that stuff too early you get some free early optimization!
Of cpu time and your life.
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null | foxlisk | null | This is especially fun! Leaving off the important qualifier AND equating caffeine with oxygen. | null | 0 | 1491704614 | False | 0 | dg0pj0p | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0on1q | null | 1493915917 | 10 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | GreenGlider | null | Easy. Pay them $500 an hour. | null | 0 | 1491704705 | False | 0 | dg0pl33 | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493915946 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Slackluster | null | you count your lunch break as time worked? | null | 0 | 1491704724 | False | 0 | dg0pljq | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0dsuf | null | 1493915951 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LoneCookie | null | I think this is a very common sentiment that enrages many sensible people who then go off and do studies or write blogs and books about it to hopefully dissuade the people preaching it
His book is not the only. I bet you quora has a lot of similar questions by other people as well.
Honestly he doesn't even have a ha... | null | 0 | 1491704743 | 1491706522 | 0 | dg0plzw | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0i14o | null | 1493915958 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | shagieIsMe | null | Thats because [programming sucks](https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks).
Time for some brandy and [software](https://youtu.be/TMvq8ctG9wc). | null | 0 | 1491704804 | False | 0 | dg0png2 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0dkj5 | null | 1493915978 | 85 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mr-Yellow | null | > There are programmers out there who can write code for 12-18+ hours per day.
For a short while. Then if they haven't managed to steal a product like Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, they suicide. | null | 0 | 1491704843 | False | 0 | dg0pocv | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0o0ze | null | 1493915990 | 3 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | gambiter | null | Yes, yes, you're superhuman and capable of laser focus from the moment you walk in the door to the moment you leave. We all believe you. /s
This is like the episode of The Office where Jim has to prove to Dwight that he wastes time like everyone else by timing his non-work with a stopwatch. | null | 0 | 1491704883 | False | 0 | dg0ppaj | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0lbm1 | null | 1493916002 | 8 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | eric987235 | null | We are not engineers. | null | 0 | 1491704908 | False | 0 | dg0pptv | t3_63zg6f | null | null | t3_63zg6f | null | 1493916010 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mr-Yellow | null | Perl rocks! ;-) | null | 0 | 1491704970 | False | 0 | dg0praq | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0ljh0 | null | 1493916029 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | VortiNinja | null | Try cold brew. I was/am the same way, but a little bit of cold brew and milk is amazing | null | 0 | 1491704992 | False | 0 | dg0prrf | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0mudi | null | 1493916035 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LoneCookie | null | Too bad industries and laws don't listen | null | 0 | 1491705001 | False | 0 | dg0prz3 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg07ixj | null | 1493916037 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | ShunkIsDrunk | null | lol | null | 0 | 1491705003 | False | 0 | dg0ps0u | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493916038 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | chummer7 | null | Or you can start drinking black coffee even if it tastes bad at first. The taste will grow on you after a bit and it's more caffeine than added sugar and dairy | null | 0 | 1491705024 | False | 0 | dg0pshf | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0mudi | null | 1493916044 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mr-Yellow | null | The Pizza will Increase Until Morale Improves!
FREE SOFT-DRINK!! | null | 0 | 1491705038 | False | 0 | dg0pssj | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0jtib | null | 1493916049 | 18 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | anonymous_subroutine | null | All your moneys are belong to us. | null | 0 | 1491705048 | False | 0 | dg0pt0k | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg07vik | null | 1493916052 | 6 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LoneCookie | null | Or take an extended time off | null | 0 | 1491705116 | False | 0 | dg0pumb | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0ccqj | null | 1493916074 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491705118 | False | 0 | dg0punk | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493916074 | -1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | [deleted] | null | [deleted] | null | 0 | 1491705160 | 1492029332 | 0 | dg0pvlo | t3_64933v | null | null | t1_dg0nvx9 | null | 1493916086 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | narmak | null | I actually thought [the top answer](https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-make-programmers-work-60-80-hours-per-week/answer/Gergana-Dimowa?srid=HVvj) to this question was much better. | null | 0 | 1491705160 | False | 0 | dg0pvlw | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493916087 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Swie | null | Yeah I find that if I'm literally just sitting there problem-solving in an empty office, 4 hours can go by without my even noticing that time. If I've got something that I'm trying to get done I can work on it for 6-8 hours (with a couple of breaks) without a problem.
Unfortunately a small startup, open-concept seatin... | null | 0 | 1491705211 | False | 0 | dg0pwsu | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0nxow | null | 1493916103 | 23 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LoneCookie | null | Wonder if we would get somewhere like "me driving my car is work, me eating is work, me getting dressed is work, me doing laundry to look presentable is work"
When I see execs 'work' they just hang out with people they like, at coffee shops, or spend a lot of time in travel.
Could I hire my friends and setup a game r... | null | 0 | 1491705228 | 1491890888 | 0 | dg0px6s | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0f7i6 | null | 1493916108 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mr-Yellow | null | Didn't deserve a downvote, spot on.
I do most of my code in dreams then dump it out before 8am. It's not so much "always working", but *"I get paid for this time also"*.
I don't feel bad in the slightest about knocking off at 9am and going for a walk down the beach. | null | 0 | 1491705240 | False | 0 | dg0pxg2 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0gu93 | null | 1493916111 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | adaminc | null | https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-make-programmers-work-60-80-hours-per-week
Seems like someone did ask that question, and many, many, other people answered. This blog poster isn't even the top answer, and quite a few of the other posts are ***older*** than his, some years!
So no, he didn't post this, unless you think... | null | 0 | 1491705285 | False | 0 | dg0pyfw | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0i14o | null | 1493916125 | 9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | fqn | null | No. No no no no no. This is so depressing, and work doesn't have to be this way.
I'm a freelance programmer, so I don't have a real "job" where I get away with 2-4 hours of real work every day. That would suck. Instead, I try to find clients where the projects are just as interesting as my own side projects.
Right no... | null | 0 | 1491705289 | False | 0 | dg0pyiy | t3_647weo | null | null | t3_647weo | null | 1493916126 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mr-Yellow | null | Yeah you'll notice everyone calling "bullshit" on the long periods of productivity also claim they only did it for a few months or a few years. | null | 0 | 1491705329 | False | 0 | dg0pze9 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0oecq | null | 1493916138 | 5 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | fqn | null | Not when I'm working on a super fun side project, or some client work that I'm actually enjoying. I can work 10-12 hours and the time just flies past. | null | 0 | 1491705380 | False | 0 | dg0q0id | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0gia3 | null | 1493916153 | 4 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | CSMastermind | null | Agile is definitely popular in certain kinds of companies but it's definitely not the only way programmers work. | null | 0 | 1491705438 | False | 0 | dg0q1ro | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0a7qm | null | 1493916170 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mr-Yellow | null | > Those who put in long hours, often are not delivering as good of product as those who aren't. They often do this because it looks good and they need to look good to keep their job because they really aren't that good.
I tie that to dreaming time. I refuse to implement things the same day they're conceived, everyt... | null | 0 | 1491705543 | False | 0 | dg0q43v | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg08moy | null | 1493916202 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | LoneCookie | null | And if you keep doing that you don't have much time for reflection and self improvement. That is downright crazy suffocating. | null | 0 | 1491705583 | False | 0 | dg0q50y | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0k3tr | null | 1493916214 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | kabdib | null | This will result in your best people quitting, leaving you with drones who are willing to work in a shitty environment.
(... having been in places that have done exactly those three things, with the aforesaid results) | null | 0 | 1491705593 | False | 0 | dg0q599 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0o8ew | null | 1493916217 | 1 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | fqn | null | I haven't experienced this as a freelancer. I probably just got lucky, but I have a few long term clients, and I can easily find tons of work on a few different freelancing websites. So I never have to go anywhere or meet people. I also do all of my training by building side projects and contributing to open source.
... | null | 0 | 1491705635 | False | 0 | dg0q67q | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0gjlm | null | 1493916230 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | dblake123 | null | Products don't sell, support, finance, implement or move themselves. Designing or stealing the product isn't really all that important. You still have to do all the things that it is required to get ANY product into your customers hands. | null | 0 | 1491705748 | False | 0 | dg0q8s4 | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0pocv | null | 1493916264 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | aaron416 | null | Do you have plans for this NERF gun? I'm uh...asking for a friend. | null | 0 | 1491705789 | False | 0 | dg0q9ms | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg049ug | null | 1493916275 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Gackt | null | What language is that (in the picture)?? | null | 0 | 1491705824 | False | 0 | dg0qaf1 | t3_64815z | null | null | t3_64815z | null | 1493916285 | 0 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Syrrim | null | Coding is a really enjoyable and interesting skill, but only because you can use it to do things you want to do. Teaching kids how to program a turtle or whatever will always make it seem boring, because it won't be practical to them. Give them an existing program they enjoy using, with obvious room for improvement, th... | null | 0 | 1491705914 | False | 0 | dg0qce9 | t3_64815z | null | null | t1_dg05dgc | null | 1493916312 | 7 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Mr-Yellow | null | The salespeople who work 4 hours a day can handle that ;-) | null | 0 | 1491705930 | False | 0 | dg0qcrr | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0q8s4 | null | 1493916317 | 2 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
null | Ozwaldo | null | It's not "superhuman", it's called putting in a solid day of hard work. Honestly the backlash I'm seeing is pretty surprising. | null | 0 | 1491706023 | False | 0 | dg0qerz | t3_647weo | null | null | t1_dg0ppaj | null | 1493916343 | -9 | t5_2fwo | null | null | null |
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